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Post by dmacca65 on Aug 23, 2014 8:47:25 GMT
It goes without saying that we are rock bottom at this moment in time, it could get worse before it gets better, there is a lot of negativity out there and I can fully understand all that, I get swept along by it myself at times.
After reading the threads on here re, music for when the teams come out (Benny Hill theme) the Roy of the Rovers, my question/thought is, could we turn our situation into a positive? Is it possible to embrace the position we find ourselves in? Forget the Big Time Charlie status some think we should have in this league, the grandeur expectations of taking the league by storm, how about realizing were not at our best at the moment (obviously) we are the poor relation in terms of the two big football clubs in Bristol (we are so what) we are skint, we play in a stadium that is thread bare to say the least, were not going to gain victories in this league easily weather it be to Grimsby or Altincham/Telford, were signing players from clubs that most would scoff at (funnily enough these clubs are more or less on a par with us at this moment in time)
We are what/where we are, why believe/say any different, I am sure Man City have used reverse psychology in the past over their big team neighbours probably other clubs have too? Our heyday in the recent past was when we referred to ourselves as ragbag Rovers, we didnt have a ground we didnt have two pennies to rub together, we didnt even play in our home City, but we embraced this because it was fact, we got on with it and eventually prevailed, oh and remember those days we were most definitely the under dogs to the big club, could they beat us though, not a chance they even came second best to us in league position, I can still remember mates of mine, City fans who hated the fact they had more resources than us BUT they couldnt beat us on the pitch!
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Post by seanclevedongas on Aug 23, 2014 8:54:02 GMT
We had 5 or 6 players that went on to play in the top flight though. Can't see that happening with anyone from this squad.....
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 23, 2014 8:55:17 GMT
No.
Because we will see 5,000 fans at our home games, and we will see 500 opponent's fans at some of our away games. And it's impossible to delude yourself that we have fewer resources.
Also, convincing yourself that being big-time-charlies involves challenging in the top half of the Conference is too much of a leap for sane people.
You can't just pretend things aren't what they are.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2014 9:14:13 GMT
the fact is that we should absolutely rip telford apart today.
i'm not saying that we will, i'm just saying that we should.
and that's how I will feel about every game this season....
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Post by Jon the Stripe on Aug 23, 2014 9:27:37 GMT
I'm lucky (if you can call it that) that over the last 4 years i've gone through similar feelings, emotions following The Gers, it's desperate at times and you want peoples heads on a plate and everything is wrong - Particularly the football!
The only ray of light at times seems that Adversity generally wills the crowd on, the genuine fans turn out and keep backing the lads,even though its with gritted teeth.
We will find strength from somewhere Dar mate, the one thing that's essential is - to moan as much as we like away from the young players, i've seen it time and time again, if it's a venomous atmosphere during play - It kills them!
Come On Gas, Lets get the first win today!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2014 11:21:47 GMT
It goes without saying that we are rock bottom at this moment in time, it could get worse before it gets better, there is a lot of negativity out there and I can fully understand all that, I get swept along by it myself at times. After reading the threads on here re, music for when the teams come out (Benny Hill theme) the Roy of the Rovers, my question/thought is, could we turn our situation into a positive? Is it possible to embrace the position we find ourselves in? Forget the Big Time Charlie status some think we should have in this league, the grandeur expectations of taking the league by storm, how about realizing were not at our best at the moment (obviously) we are the poor relation in terms of the two big football clubs in Bristol (we are so what) we are skint, we play in a stadium that is thread bare to say the least, were not going to gain victories in this league easily weather it be to Grimsby or Altincham/Telford, were signing players from clubs that most would scoff at (funnily enough these clubs are more or less on a par with us at this moment in time) We are what/where we are, why believe/say any different, I am sure Man City have used reverse psychology in the past over their big team neighbours probably other clubs have too? Our heyday in the recent past was when we referred to ourselves as ragbag Rovers, we didnt have a ground we didnt have two pennies to rub together, we didnt even play in our home City, but we embraced this because it was fact, we got on with it and eventually prevailed, oh and remember those days we were most definitely the under dogs to the big club, could they beat us though, not a chance they even came second best to us in league position, I can still remember mates of mine, City fans who hated the fact they had more resources than us BUT they couldnt beat us on the pitch! Great thread Yes there is a lot in what you say and probably a majority of us are in denial and it will take time for us to accept our position. Sadly though the people that run this club seem even more in denial and I feel that is where our problem lies. The handwringing needs to stop and people in charge need to put their hands up for the mistakes that got us to where we are.
The circumstances that took us to Bath and away from Bristol were unavoidable that is not the case this time.
Gasheads will always support their club it's what we do, but until the people at the top man up and learn from their mistakes I don't think we can move forward.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2014 16:20:03 GMT
No. Because we will see 5,000 fans at our home games, and we will see 500 opponent's fans at some of our away games. And it's impossible to delude yourself that we have fewer resources. Also, convincing yourself that being big-time-charlies involves challenging in the top half of the Conference is too much of a leap for sane people. You can't just pretend things aren't what they are. It's a Chairman's dream isn't it. If we delude ourselves then that's another whole different world of pain |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2014 16:21:51 GMT
It goes without saying that we are rock bottom at this moment in time, it could get worse before it gets better, there is a lot of negativity out there and I can fully understand all that, I get swept along by it myself at times. After reading the threads on here re, music for when the teams come out (Benny Hill theme) the Roy of the Rovers, my question/thought is, could we turn our situation into a positive? Is it possible to embrace the position we find ourselves in? Forget the Big Time Charlie status some think we should have in this league, the grandeur expectations of taking the league by storm, how about realizing were not at our best at the moment (obviously) we are the poor relation in terms of the two big football clubs in Bristol (we are so what) we are skint, we play in a stadium that is thread bare to say the least, were not going to gain victories in this league easily weather it be to Grimsby or Altincham/Telford, were signing players from clubs that most would scoff at (funnily enough these clubs are more or less on a par with us at this moment in time) We are what/where we are, why believe/say any different, I am sure Man City have used reverse psychology in the past over their big team neighbours probably other clubs have too? Our heyday in the recent past was when we referred to ourselves as ragbag Rovers, we didnt have a ground we didnt have two pennies to rub together, we didnt even play in our home City, but we embraced this because it was fact, we got on with it and eventually prevailed, oh and remember those days we were most definitely the under dogs to the big club, could they beat us though, not a chance they even came second best to us in league position, I can still remember mates of mine, City fans who hated the fact they had more resources than us BUT they couldnt beat us on the pitch! Great thread Yes there is a lot in what you say and probably a majority of us are in denial and it will take time for us to accept our position. Sadly though the people that run this club seem even more in denial and I feel that is where our problem lies. The handwringing needs to stop and people in charge need to put their hands up for the mistakes that got us to where we are.
The circumstances that took us to Bath and away from Bristol were unavoidable that is not the case this time.
Gasheads will always support their club it's what we do, but until the people at the top man up and learn from their mistakes I don't think we can move forward.
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Post by socrates78 on Aug 23, 2014 23:34:22 GMT
In my 30 years of watching us it's obvious to me that whenever we're underdogs we do alright but when we're favorites it never seems to sit quite right with our club and we almost always cock it up.
The play off final in 07 being a rare exception ( it took days to sink in)
We had the problem of being favorites in league 2 and now we've got the same problem in the conference.
I don't know how to change it but it's what I've noticed.
Twerton was perfect for us because we were considered a small club in a crappy rented non league ground playing the likes of West Ham and Newcastle and it galvamised us.
There doesn't seem to be anything to galvanize us these days, we go into games thinking " oh well they're a crappy little club we're much bigger" and we get beat.
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Post by socrates78 on Aug 23, 2014 23:36:34 GMT
Gentleman's appendage !!
Lol
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