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Post by baggins on Apr 7, 2017 12:48:26 GMT
We debated this on here before I think it was one of the previous Coventry threads. We will have blocks in the new stadium where you can sit where you want in a block so you can bring casual supporters and sit with them Casual supporters? You mean those that only turn up for the big games?
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Post by mariobalotelli on Apr 7, 2017 13:42:58 GMT
I'll be dead twice within 125 years so the lease doesn't really bother me. I've worried enough about this club, I'll leave it to fans in 125 years to worry about what's gonna happen come the end of the lease.
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Post by Marshy on Apr 7, 2017 13:43:44 GMT
We debated this on here before I think it was one of the previous Coventry threads. We will have blocks in the new stadium where you can sit where you want in a block so you can bring casual supporters and sit with them Casual supporters? You mean those that only turn up for the big games? The ones that only support us if we're pushing for the playoffs or a nice Wembley final, those ones?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 13:49:18 GMT
Casual supporters? You mean those that only turn up for the big games? The ones that only support us if we're pushing for the playoffs or a nice Wembley final, those ones? Fecking toffs.
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Post by Parrot on Apr 7, 2017 13:54:30 GMT
FWIW i understand there is still no movement with regards to UWE.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 13:58:33 GMT
With the way DC works cant see any announcement regarding the UWE until the end of season
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 13:59:35 GMT
FWIW i understand there is still no movement with regards to UWE. But...but Henbury said so.... He's got 2 g.c.e's!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 14:01:47 GMT
And so the stadium speculation starts....again
Its as regular as a period, and just as frustrating
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Post by gasincider on Apr 7, 2017 14:49:42 GMT
FWIW i understand there is still no movement with regards to UWE. Mr Hamer would disagree with you. Severcider tells me that he confirmed there had been substantial movement recently. The big problem was that UWE didn't like the risk of us going under in the middle of the Build. Therefore a bond guaranteeing completion of the build needed to be lodged to allay their fears. This has now been agreed.
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Post by chippenhamgas on Apr 7, 2017 15:23:27 GMT
I'll post a more detailed report this afternnon. One comment made by SH, the breakeven figure for running at breakeven is now 15k, yes 15,000 So we have the 6th biggest average attendance in the division and a bottom ten budget but our break even crowd is 15k. How does that work?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 15:27:28 GMT
FWIW i understand there is still no movement with regards to UWE. Mr Hamer would disagree with you. Severcider tells me that he confirmed there had been substantial movement recently. The big problem was that UWE didn't like the risk of us going under in the middle of the Build. Therefore a bond guaranteeing completion of the build needed to be lodged to allay their fears. This has now been agreed. Ooh I like the sound of that,I am a gullible bastard mind.
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Post by pucklegas on Apr 7, 2017 15:30:53 GMT
Mr Hamer would disagree with you. Severcider tells me that he confirmed there had been substantial movement recently. The big problem was that UWE didn't like the risk of us going under in the middle of the Build. Therefore a bond guaranteeing completion of the build needed to be lodged to allay their fears. This has now been agreed. Ooh I like the sound of that,I am a gullible bastard mind. Can i Do some tarmacing and gardening for you!
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Post by seanclevedongas on Apr 7, 2017 15:48:19 GMT
I'll post a more detailed report this afternnon. One comment made by SH, the breakeven figure for running at breakeven is now 15k, yes 15,000 So we have the 6th biggest average attendance in the division and a bottom ten budget but our break even crowd is 15k. How does that work? Our income will be top 10 but our PLAYING budget is bottom 10 because of all the extra out goings of running a dilapidated stadium and paying all the non playing staff (which must be top 5)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 16:03:49 GMT
I'll post a more detailed report this afternnon. One comment made by SH, the breakeven figure for running at breakeven is now 15k, yes 15,000 So we have the 6th biggest average attendance in the division and a bottom ten budget but our break even crowd is 15k. How does that work? Very good question - I doubt if he has spent anywhere near his budget this season - (hope he hasn't because we are not seeing much for it if he has). I dont think we pay the loanee's salaries only expenses and we've hardly pushed the boat out on permanent signings. Selling the unmentionable and the Chelsea match probably netted somewhere in the region of £700k alone - could we not reasonably expect this to be spent on new signings? Hope his budget carries over because there needs to be some significant team investment for next season to even maintain our current position. Perhaps he was meaning that we will need a 15k crowd if and when we move into UWE. All rather strange when the ST's dont appear to have increased significantly - perhaps the match day prices are going to see big increases.
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Post by chippenhamgas on Apr 7, 2017 16:32:23 GMT
If we can't break even on 9300 average attendances when our budget is bottom ten and we spend very little enhancing the mem there is something very wrong somewhere.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 16:37:21 GMT
I would take that as a positive rather than a negative why spend and invest money on an old ground when the long term goal is to move to a new ground
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Post by gasincider on Apr 7, 2017 16:44:09 GMT
If we can't break even on 9300 average attendances when our budget is bottom ten and we spend very little enhancing the mem there is something very wrong somewhere. Is that something illegal? We spent £250,000 around the Mem in the summer, bought Partington for £100k, employ 50% more people i.e. Physios, finance advisors, new office base at Cribbs training ground, meals after training, etc etc etc. With many loanees, if they are played we get them for nowt. If they don't play we have to agree a formula regarding their pay which could mean we pay their full salary. Ive probably missed a lot of obvious expenditure, but that lot was off the top of my head. To my mind, the most encouraging aspect of all this is that to commit to this level of expenditure, there must be a rational business plan moving forward to make it sustainable. I can only think of one way of justifying it, and it entails a new stadium.
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Apr 7, 2017 17:03:24 GMT
We need a brand new stadium with full revenue streams to move forward, without sounding like a dick I don't think a lot of our supporters understand that.
What I mean is that I often hear 'we don't need a new ground, we don't sell out the Mem' when the clubs match day earnings isn't the main earner.
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Post by peterparker on Apr 7, 2017 17:14:54 GMT
I'll post a more detailed report this afternnon. One comment made by SH, the breakeven figure for running at breakeven is now 15k, yes 15,000 So we have the 6th biggest average attendance in the division and a bottom ten budget but our break even crowd is 15k. How does that work? I guess increased staffing, problem money spent just traveling and staying over, operating costs etc. You have to bear in mind the break even attendance will be higher as the stadium doesnt generate money like a new ground would
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 7, 2017 17:31:14 GMT
So basically we're losing 6/7K fans per match/fortnight which is £100K+ lost on gate receipts (5,000 x £20 per ticket), or £200K per month/£2.4M a season, if that figure is accurate then this season's annual accounts could make interesting reading!
As far as leasing the UWE land, then it seems clear the Al-Q's aren't prepared to put the extra millions into the club to meet the UWE asking price.
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