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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 24, 2017 17:09:26 GMT
more rumours of financing? Obviously I would take anything said with a pinch of salt (been there, seen that etc) but didn't Wael say the finance wasn't a problem
Correct Just more untrue scaremongering from Topper, as per. No, just repeating that's been posted on the forum that the UWE want more for the land than we are prepared to pay, with leasing the ground now apparently the favoured deal according to Hamer at the WSM SC, although perhaps whoever posted that after the meeting, GGMI?, was just scaremongering. Regardless Wael's already said the UWE will be built to the original plans and financing the actual build is not a problem, but HG's already answered that point.
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Post by chippenhamgas on Apr 24, 2017 18:10:28 GMT
If financing wasn't a problem the thing would be half built by now, i do wish people would start reading between the lines rather than swallowing the bs we seem to be being fed.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2017 18:21:04 GMT
If financing wasn't a problem the thing would be half built by now, i do wish people would start reading between the lines rather than swallowing the bs we seem to be being fed. Not at all. Every single penny may be covered but if the agreement over the terms doesn't suit both parties negotiations have to happen.
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Post by yategas78 on Apr 24, 2017 18:25:43 GMT
I hope the bloody hell we are told something soon the suspense is killing me!,😱
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2017 21:25:25 GMT
If financing wasn't a problem the thing would be half built by now, i do wish people would start reading between the lines rather than swallowing the bs we seem to be being fed. I'm still waiting to read one single positive post that suggests you are actually Gas and I think you are a ted troll along with the other sad ones who have no life beyond slating Rovers. If you are trying to get other people to believe in your empty and fact less rhetoric, and in the outside chance that one or two real Gasheads believe in what you say then hopefully they will read this and understand that if you have billions in assets then borrowing tens of millions really is no issue, the family own a successful bank, three years ago took full control of HSBC banking in Jordan and the wealth continues to increase and the takeover and subsequent trading has been a success. The next level is customers who are itching to invest in billionaire institutions, there will be no shortage of people with money (not as much as AQ's) who want to have a slice of the pie. Then take away those facts of owning a significant slice of banking in Jordan, lets pretend it generates no money at all and is worthless shall we? And pretend in your troll world that there is no money. Oops, that can't work because there is the four seasons hotel in Amman, owned by the AQ's, 215 luxurious suites ranging between £250 - £450 per night, that doesn't include Royal Suites, prices aren't published for these rooms, full capacity for just 1 year is around £23M, not including food or drink. Back to the banks then, because after all they are real, it would have been nice to be a shareholder in the successful takeover of HSBC when the family decided to give out over £19m GBP to its shareholders following the takeover, FACT. So lets try and take a simple comparison, what you are trying to fool people into believing is that the family do not have the assets, backing, borrowing capability to fund a £50m stadium, it's laughable to suggest that the family are unable to raise around 3% of their net worth that other investors will fall over each other to be involved in and pay for in any case. Carry on with the clown antics in trying to poison the name of the family who have done more to improve the professionalism of the FC in 12 months than any previous chairman in the clubs history, you may fool the clueless into believing your nonsense that offers no support to the club, but plenty of real Gasheads out there with the foresight to have done some research prior to the takeover understand that we are in a very good position to take Rovers to places they have never been in the clubs history. Good luck with your struggle in the Championship next season Chippenham ted, you will need it, the gap is closing.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2017 21:33:27 GMT
If financing wasn't a problem the thing would be half built by now, i do wish people would start reading between the lines rather than swallowing the bs we seem to be being fed. I'm still waiting to read one single positive post that suggests you are actually Gas and I think you are a ted troll along with the other sad ones who have no life beyond slating Rovers. If you are trying to get other people to believe in your empty and fact less rhetoric, and in the outside chance that one or two real Gasheads believe in what you say then hopefully they will read this and understand that if you have billions in assets then borrowing tens of millions really is no issue, the family own a successful bank, three years ago took full control of HSBC banking in Jordan and the wealth continues to increase and the takeover and subsequent trading has been a success. The next level is customers who are itching to invest in billionaire institutions, there will be no shortage of people with money (not as much as AQ's) who want to have a slice of the pie. Then take away those facts of owning a significant slice of banking in Jordan, lets pretend it generates no money at all and is worthless shall we? And pretend in your troll world that there is no money. Oops, that can't work because there is the four seasons hotel in Amman, owned by the AQ's, 215 luxurious suites ranging between £250 - £450 per night, that doesn't include Royal Suites, prices aren't published for these rooms, full capacity for just 1 year is around £23M, not including food or drink. Back to the banks then, because after all they are real, it would have been nice to be a shareholder in the successful takeover of HSBC when the family decided to give out over £19m GBP to its shareholders following the takeover, FACT. So lets try and take a simple comparison, what you are trying to fool people into believing is that the family do not have the assets, backing, borrowing capability to fund a £50m stadium, it's laughable to suggest that the family are unable to raise around 3% of their net worth that other investors will fall over each other to be involved in and pay for in any case. Carry on with the clown antics in trying to poison the name of the family who have done more to improve the professionalism of the FC in 12 months than any previous chairman in the clubs history, you may fool the clueless into believing your nonsense that offers no support to the club, but plenty of real Gasheads out there with the foresight to have done some research prior to the takeover understand that we are in a very good position to take Rovers to places they have never been in the clubs history. Good luck with your struggle in the Championship next season Chippenham ted, you will need it, the gap is closing. Bad day at work mate?
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Post by Captain Jayho on Apr 25, 2017 0:39:48 GMT
I'm comfortable that finance is available when required. However i doubt that the family will agree to actually finance the build unless the contract details, stadium income streams and build spec are 100% agreeable to them. And by that I mean beneficial for the club and also for the return they need on the initial financing. The fact that we have to deal with UWE (rather than building on a site that we already own) significantly complicates things in this regard.
Having the finance available and actually committing it to the build are two totally different things. I respect the way they are going about this and I genuinely believe we will get a stadium in the long term, but it doesn't mean it's going get built any time soon or at UWE.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 6:40:17 GMT
I just think that there are loads of facets to the project and that makes things difficult/timely to coordinate. With so many interested parties and a fair bit of opposition, a stadium in a field is always going to be delicate to initiate. The fact that we are in the UK means that every voice must be heard before building can commence with time allowances between statements of intent and replies to those orders-all time consuming, expensive and frustrating for those involved.
Engineers and construction firms are not likely sat twiddling their thumbs waiting for us so they need long lead in times aswell, that's even when the project is signed off.
The new Owner won't have acquired us to just run a tinpot club in a ramshackle old ground. That doesn't make business sense does it? Therefore I believe we will see a new stadium at some stage but I am not hopeful of anything for at least 5 years. It will take half of that to complete the thing.
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Post by chippenhamgas on Apr 25, 2017 7:01:50 GMT
If financing wasn't a problem the thing would be half built by now, i do wish people would start reading between the lines rather than swallowing the bs we seem to be being fed. I'm still waiting to read one single positive post that suggests you are actually Gas and I think you are a ted troll along with the other sad ones who have no life beyond slating Rovers. If you are trying to get other people to believe in your empty and fact less rhetoric, and in the outside chance that one or two real Gasheads believe in what you say then hopefully they will read this and understand that if you have billions in assets then borrowing tens of millions really is no issue, the family own a successful bank, three years ago took full control of HSBC banking in Jordan and the wealth continues to increase and the takeover and subsequent trading has been a success. The next level is customers who are itching to invest in billionaire institutions, there will be no shortage of people with money (not as much as AQ's) who want to have a slice of the pie. Then take away those facts of owning a significant slice of banking in Jordan, lets pretend it generates no money at all and is worthless shall we? And pretend in your troll world that there is no money. Oops, that can't work because there is the four seasons hotel in Amman, owned by the AQ's, 215 luxurious suites ranging between £250 - £450 per night, that doesn't include Royal Suites, prices aren't published for these rooms, full capacity for just 1 year is around £23M, not including food or drink. Back to the banks then, because after all they are real, it would have been nice to be a shareholder in the successful takeover of HSBC when the family decided to give out over £19m GBP to its shareholders following the takeover, FACT. So lets try and take a simple comparison, what you are trying to fool people into believing is that the family do not have the assets, backing, borrowing capability to fund a £50m stadium, it's laughable to suggest that the family are unable to raise around 3% of their net worth that other investors will fall over each other to be involved in and pay for in any case. Carry on with the clown antics in trying to poison the name of the family who have done more to improve the professionalism of the FC in 12 months than any previous chairman in the clubs history, you may fool the clueless into believing your nonsense that offers no support to the club, but plenty of real Gasheads out there with the foresight to have done some research prior to the takeover understand that we are in a very good position to take Rovers to places they have never been in the clubs history. Good luck with your struggle in the Championship next season Chippenham ted, you will need it, the gap is closing. So you wrote an essay telling me how wealthy our new owners are yet they have spent 15 months quibbling over a few million on the value of the uwe freehold. The thing could have been built ready for August and earning valuable extra revenue. It's very niave to take everything at face valuable, always best to question and hold to account. Neither you nor i have any idea what their intentions are, just remember we weren't their first choice.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Apr 25, 2017 7:16:51 GMT
I'm still waiting to read one single positive post that suggests you are actually Gas and I think you are a ted troll along with the other sad ones who have no life beyond slating Rovers. If you are trying to get other people to believe in your empty and fact less rhetoric, and in the outside chance that one or two real Gasheads believe in what you say then hopefully they will read this and understand that if you have billions in assets then borrowing tens of millions really is no issue, the family own a successful bank, three years ago took full control of HSBC banking in Jordan and the wealth continues to increase and the takeover and subsequent trading has been a success. The next level is customers who are itching to invest in billionaire institutions, there will be no shortage of people with money (not as much as AQ's) who want to have a slice of the pie. Then take away those facts of owning a significant slice of banking in Jordan, lets pretend it generates no money at all and is worthless shall we? And pretend in your troll world that there is no money. Oops, that can't work because there is the four seasons hotel in Amman, owned by the AQ's, 215 luxurious suites ranging between £250 - £450 per night, that doesn't include Royal Suites, prices aren't published for these rooms, full capacity for just 1 year is around £23M, not including food or drink. Back to the banks then, because after all they are real, it would have been nice to be a shareholder in the successful takeover of HSBC when the family decided to give out over £19m GBP to its shareholders following the takeover, FACT. So lets try and take a simple comparison, what you are trying to fool people into believing is that the family do not have the assets, backing, borrowing capability to fund a £50m stadium, it's laughable to suggest that the family are unable to raise around 3% of their net worth that other investors will fall over each other to be involved in and pay for in any case. Carry on with the clown antics in trying to poison the name of the family who have done more to improve the professionalism of the FC in 12 months than any previous chairman in the clubs history, you may fool the clueless into believing your nonsense that offers no support to the club, but plenty of real Gasheads out there with the foresight to have done some research prior to the takeover understand that we are in a very good position to take Rovers to places they have never been in the clubs history. Good luck with your struggle in the Championship next season Chippenham ted, you will need it, the gap is closing. So you wrote an essay telling me how wealthy our new owners are yet they have spent 15 months quibbling over a few million on the value of the uwe freehold. The thing could have been built ready for August and earning valuable extra revenue. It's very niave to take everything at face valuable, always best to question and hold to account. Neither you nor i have any idea what their intentions are, just remember we weren't their first choice. Yeah they offered 2 camels and a dustbin lid for the sh*t and that was over priced as well
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Apr 25, 2017 7:26:20 GMT
I'm still waiting to read one single positive post that suggests you are actually Gas and I think you are a ted troll along with the other sad ones who have no life beyond slating Rovers. If you are trying to get other people to believe in your empty and fact less rhetoric, and in the outside chance that one or two real Gasheads believe in what you say then hopefully they will read this and understand that if you have billions in assets then borrowing tens of millions really is no issue, the family own a successful bank, three years ago took full control of HSBC banking in Jordan and the wealth continues to increase and the takeover and subsequent trading has been a success. The next level is customers who are itching to invest in billionaire institutions, there will be no shortage of people with money (not as much as AQ's) who want to have a slice of the pie. Then take away those facts of owning a significant slice of banking in Jordan, lets pretend it generates no money at all and is worthless shall we? And pretend in your troll world that there is no money. Oops, that can't work because there is the four seasons hotel in Amman, owned by the AQ's, 215 luxurious suites ranging between £250 - £450 per night, that doesn't include Royal Suites, prices aren't published for these rooms, full capacity for just 1 year is around £23M, not including food or drink. Back to the banks then, because after all they are real, it would have been nice to be a shareholder in the successful takeover of HSBC when the family decided to give out over £19m GBP to its shareholders following the takeover, FACT. So lets try and take a simple comparison, what you are trying to fool people into believing is that the family do not have the assets, backing, borrowing capability to fund a £50m stadium, it's laughable to suggest that the family are unable to raise around 3% of their net worth that other investors will fall over each other to be involved in and pay for in any case. Carry on with the clown antics in trying to poison the name of the family who have done more to improve the professionalism of the FC in 12 months than any previous chairman in the clubs history, you may fool the clueless into believing your nonsense that offers no support to the club, but plenty of real Gasheads out there with the foresight to have done some research prior to the takeover understand that we are in a very good position to take Rovers to places they have never been in the clubs history. Good luck with your struggle in the Championship next season Chippenham ted, you will need it, the gap is closing. So you wrote an essay telling me how wealthy our new owners are yet they have spent 15 months quibbling over a few million on the value of the uwe freehold. The thing could have been built ready for August and earning valuable extra revenue. It's very niave to take everything at face valuable, always best to question and hold to account. Neither you nor i have any idea what their intentions are, just remember we weren't their first choice. Do you think they made their money by just launching it at anything they thought was a good idea?
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Apr 25, 2017 7:28:20 GMT
If financing wasn't a problem the thing would be half built by now, i do wish people would start reading between the lines rather than swallowing the bs we seem to be being fed. I'm still waiting to read one single positive post that suggests you are actually Gas and I think you are a ted troll along with the other sad ones who have no life beyond slating Rovers. If you are trying to get other people to believe in your empty and fact less rhetoric, and in the outside chance that one or two real Gasheads believe in what you say then hopefully they will read this and understand that if you have billions in assets then borrowing tens of millions really is no issue, the family own a successful bank, three years ago took full control of HSBC banking in Jordan and the wealth continues to increase and the takeover and subsequent trading has been a success. The next level is customers who are itching to invest in billionaire institutions, there will be no shortage of people with money (not as much as AQ's) who want to have a slice of the pie. Then take away those facts of owning a significant slice of banking in Jordan, lets pretend it generates no money at all and is worthless shall we? And pretend in your troll world that there is no money. Oops, that can't work because there is the four seasons hotel in Amman, owned by the AQ's, 215 luxurious suites ranging between £250 - £450 per night, that doesn't include Royal Suites, prices aren't published for these rooms, full capacity for just 1 year is around £23M, not including food or drink. Back to the banks then, because after all they are real, it would have been nice to be a shareholder in the successful takeover of HSBC when the family decided to give out over £19m GBP to its shareholders following the takeover, FACT. So lets try and take a simple comparison, what you are trying to fool people into believing is that the family do not have the assets, backing, borrowing capability to fund a £50m stadium, it's laughable to suggest that the family are unable to raise around 3% of their net worth that other investors will fall over each other to be involved in and pay for in any case. Carry on with the clown antics in trying to poison the name of the family who have done more to improve the professionalism of the FC in 12 months than any previous chairman in the clubs history, you may fool the clueless into believing your nonsense that offers no support to the club, but plenty of real Gasheads out there with the foresight to have done some research prior to the takeover understand that we are in a very good position to take Rovers to places they have never been in the clubs history. Good luck with your struggle in the Championship next season Chippenham ted, you will need it, the gap is closing. What a load of patronising sycophantic twaddle. If any of us question our owners or suggest there is a difference between actions and words and we want to put pressure on them to be truthful it means we are Sh1!heads does it! Look around you, look at all of the owners of clubs up and down the country and see if now and again what they say and what they do turn out to be poles apart sometimes with catastrophic consequences. Plymouth Argyle nearly went to the wall 6 or 7 years ago with owners that told fans that they were going to build a 40,000 ground and a Premier League team. Now I don't want to put our owners in the same bracket as those charlatans BUT of course we are right to always question not accept everything we are told. To look beyond words and look at actions or inaction in making our judgment and calls. Fact is that they have been here well over a year and it would have been reasonable to assume that if the UWE was going to happen there would have been progress by now! So wind your neck in and stop calling your fellow fans Sh1!heads just because they aren't nodding Dog sycophants like you.
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Post by yattongas on Apr 25, 2017 7:39:54 GMT
I'm still waiting to read one single positive post that suggests you are actually Gas and I think you are a ted troll along with the other sad ones who have no life beyond slating Rovers. If you are trying to get other people to believe in your empty and fact less rhetoric, and in the outside chance that one or two real Gasheads believe in what you say then hopefully they will read this and understand that if you have billions in assets then borrowing tens of millions really is no issue, the family own a successful bank, three years ago took full control of HSBC banking in Jordan and the wealth continues to increase and the takeover and subsequent trading has been a success. The next level is customers who are itching to invest in billionaire institutions, there will be no shortage of people with money (not as much as AQ's) who want to have a slice of the pie. Then take away those facts of owning a significant slice of banking in Jordan, lets pretend it generates no money at all and is worthless shall we? And pretend in your troll world that there is no money. Oops, that can't work because there is the four seasons hotel in Amman, owned by the AQ's, 215 luxurious suites ranging between £250 - £450 per night, that doesn't include Royal Suites, prices aren't published for these rooms, full capacity for just 1 year is around £23M, not including food or drink. Back to the banks then, because after all they are real, it would have been nice to be a shareholder in the successful takeover of HSBC when the family decided to give out over £19m GBP to its shareholders following the takeover, FACT. So lets try and take a simple comparison, what you are trying to fool people into believing is that the family do not have the assets, backing, borrowing capability to fund a £50m stadium, it's laughable to suggest that the family are unable to raise around 3% of their net worth that other investors will fall over each other to be involved in and pay for in any case. Carry on with the clown antics in trying to poison the name of the family who have done more to improve the professionalism of the FC in 12 months than any previous chairman in the clubs history, you may fool the clueless into believing your nonsense that offers no support to the club, but plenty of real Gasheads out there with the foresight to have done some research prior to the takeover understand that we are in a very good position to take Rovers to places they have never been in the clubs history. Good luck with your struggle in the Championship next season Chippenham ted, you will need it, the gap is closing. So you wrote an essay telling me how wealthy our new owners are yet they have spent 15 months quibbling over a few million on the value of the uwe freehold. The thing could have been built ready for August and earning valuable extra revenue. It's very niave to take everything at face valuable, always best to question and hold to account. Neither you nor i have any idea what their intentions are, just remember we weren't their first choice. Why weren't we their first choice? a few yrs ago I wanted to move to a bigger house. I looked at lots of houses before eventually deciding on the place I've got now. It's well documented they looked at other football clubs but the point is they didn't buy them did they? They wanted a football club, looked around and in the end chose us. Just like I did when buying my house...... I looked around and after looking at many others before I made my choice.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 7:43:29 GMT
With the negotiations being so protracted it can only suggest to my simple mind that the whole business model has changed or is evolving. With apparently the leasehold situation agreed - and the finance in place (Bamboo?) the delay can only surely be linked to the business model being proposed. One club that has moved under the radar here is Brentford FC and their move to their new stadium ( a community Stadium) - a new stadium on a new site and of similar size to ours (there is a tenuous link to our stadium which I won't mention here as it is maybe - just too tenuous or coincidental). The build of the stadium has just started and due for completion in 2019 - I think this whole concept has taken even longer than ours. Their business model is linkage to homes and apartments I believe and also a rugby club sharing their stadium (not much chance of that happening with ours I would think). Brentford turned over £10.5 million last year and lost £23 million but are still going ahead with the owners and are already attracting interest from foreign investors to the tune of £25m - £30 million valuing the club at over £50 -£60 million. An established championship club building a 20k capacity stadium!!
One thing that is throwing me is that no revised plans have not been submitted to SGC (maybe HG can confirm) and the Director brought in to look at the design of the stadium and effectively oversee it all has left the club. The same plans by the seem of things are still on the table - a bit strange!!
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Apr 25, 2017 7:49:48 GMT
With the negotiations being so protracted it can only suggest to my simple mind that the whole business model has changed or is evolving. With apparently the leasehold situation agreed - and the finance in place (Bamboo?) the delay can only surely be linked to the business model being proposed. One club that has moved under the radar here is Brentford FC and their move to their new stadium ( a community Stadium) - a new stadium on a new site and of similar size to ours (there is a tenuous link to our stadium which I won't mention here as it is maybe - just too tenuous or coincidental). The build of the stadium has just started and due for completion in 2019 - I think this whole concept has taken even longer than ours. Their business model is linkage to homes and apartments I believe and also a rugby club sharing their stadium (not much chance of that happening with ours I would think). Brentford turned over £10.5 million last year and lost £23 million but are still going ahead with the owners and are already attracting interest from foreign investors to the tune of £25m - £30 million valuing the club at over £50 -£60 million. An established championship club building a 20k capacity stadium!! One thing that is throwing me is that no revised plans have not been submitted to SGC (maybe HG can confirm) and the Director brought in to look at the design of the stadium and effectively oversee it all has left the club. The same plans by the seem of things are still on the table - a bit strange!! Interesting observations Newblue. In respect of your last paragraph, why do the plans for the actual stadium need to change?
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Post by Henbury Gas on Apr 25, 2017 8:06:13 GMT
I'm still waiting to read one single positive post that suggests you are actually Gas and I think you are a ted troll along with the other sad ones who have no life beyond slating Rovers. If you are trying to get other people to believe in your empty and fact less rhetoric, and in the outside chance that one or two real Gasheads believe in what you say then hopefully they will read this and understand that if you have billions in assets then borrowing tens of millions really is no issue, the family own a successful bank, three years ago took full control of HSBC banking in Jordan and the wealth continues to increase and the takeover and subsequent trading has been a success. The next level is customers who are itching to invest in billionaire institutions, there will be no shortage of people with money (not as much as AQ's) who want to have a slice of the pie. Then take away those facts of owning a significant slice of banking in Jordan, lets pretend it generates no money at all and is worthless shall we? And pretend in your troll world that there is no money. Oops, that can't work because there is the four seasons hotel in Amman, owned by the AQ's, 215 luxurious suites ranging between £250 - £450 per night, that doesn't include Royal Suites, prices aren't published for these rooms, full capacity for just 1 year is around £23M, not including food or drink. Back to the banks then, because after all they are real, it would have been nice to be a shareholder in the successful takeover of HSBC when the family decided to give out over £19m GBP to its shareholders following the takeover, FACT. So lets try and take a simple comparison, what you are trying to fool people into believing is that the family do not have the assets, backing, borrowing capability to fund a £50m stadium, it's laughable to suggest that the family are unable to raise around 3% of their net worth that other investors will fall over each other to be involved in and pay for in any case. Carry on with the clown antics in trying to poison the name of the family who have done more to improve the professionalism of the FC in 12 months than any previous chairman in the clubs history, you may fool the clueless into believing your nonsense that offers no support to the club, but plenty of real Gasheads out there with the foresight to have done some research prior to the takeover understand that we are in a very good position to take Rovers to places they have never been in the clubs history. Good luck with your struggle in the Championship next season Chippenham ted, you will need it, the gap is closing. What a load of patronising sycophantic twaddle. If any of us question our owners or suggest there is a difference between actions and words and we want to put pressure on them to be truthful it means we are Sh1!heads does it! Look around you, look at all of the owners of clubs up and down the country and see if now and again what they say and what they do turn out to be poles apart sometimes with catastrophic consequences. Plymouth Argyle nearly went to the wall 6 or 7 years ago with owners that told fans that they were going to build a 40,000 ground and a Premier League team. Now I don't want to put our owners in the same bracket as those charlatans BUT of course we are right to always question not accept everything we are told. To look beyond words and look at actions or inaction in making our judgment and calls. Fact is that they have been here well over a year and it would have been reasonable to assume that if the UWE was going to happen there would have been progress by now! So wind your neck in and stop calling your fellow fans Sh1!heads just because they aren't nodding Dog sycophants like you. ...... and you will be telling us next that DC will be here next season when in fact its a well known he is going to the Bristol Sport Mens section and will be known as the snake Mark 2.........
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Post by Henbury Gas on Apr 25, 2017 8:07:59 GMT
With the negotiations being so protracted it can only suggest to my simple mind that the whole business model has changed or is evolving. With apparently the leasehold situation agreed - and the finance in place (Bamboo?) the delay can only surely be linked to the business model being proposed. One club that has moved under the radar here is Brentford FC and their move to their new stadium ( a community Stadium) - a new stadium on a new site and of similar size to ours (there is a tenuous link to our stadium which I won't mention here as it is maybe - just too tenuous or coincidental). The build of the stadium has just started and due for completion in 2019 - I think this whole concept has taken even longer than ours. Their business model is linkage to homes and apartments I believe and also a rugby club sharing their stadium (not much chance of that happening with ours I would think). Brentford turned over £10.5 million last year and lost £23 million but are still going ahead with the owners and are already attracting interest from foreign investors to the tune of £25m - £30 million valuing the club at over £50 -£60 million. An established championship club building a 20k capacity stadium!! One thing that is throwing me is that no revised plans have not been submitted to SGC (maybe HG can confirm) and the Director brought in to look at the design of the stadium and effectively oversee it all has left the club. The same plans by the seem of things are still on the table - a bit strange!! I can confirm nothing official has been going on and no official meetings have taken place recently
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Post by knowall on Apr 25, 2017 8:21:11 GMT
With the negotiations being so protracted it can only suggest to my simple mind that the whole business model has changed or is evolving. With apparently the leasehold situation agreed - and the finance in place (Bamboo?) the delay can only surely be linked to the business model being proposed. One club that has moved under the radar here is Brentford FC and their move to their new stadium ( a community Stadium) - a new stadium on a new site and of similar size to ours (there is a tenuous link to our stadium which I won't mention here as it is maybe - just too tenuous or coincidental). The build of the stadium has just started and due for completion in 2019 - I think this whole concept has taken even longer than ours. Their business model is linkage to homes and apartments I believe and also a rugby club sharing their stadium (not much chance of that happening with ours I would think). Brentford turned over £10.5 million last year and lost £23 million but are still going ahead with the owners and are already attracting interest from foreign investors to the tune of £25m - £30 million valuing the club at over £50 -£60 million. An established championship club building a 20k capacity stadium!! One thing that is throwing me is that no revised plans have not been submitted to SGC (maybe HG can confirm) and the Director brought in to look at the design of the stadium and effectively oversee it all has left the club. The same plans by the seem of things are still on the table - a bit strange!! I can confirm nothing official has been going on and no official meetings have taken place recently NOT TRUE - I can officially tell you that I had an official meeting with some officials of an official body just now - and that is official
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Post by Henbury Gas on Apr 25, 2017 8:24:51 GMT
I can confirm nothing official has been going on and no official meetings have taken place recently NOT TRUE - I can officially tell you that I had an official meeting with some officials of an official body just now - and that is official and i can confirm from an non official spoke person from the non existent investment Group that all funding has been approved to build a new purpose built OAP home on the UWE site and will be called "The UWE Higgs Towers" and thats OFFICIAL
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 8:37:19 GMT
With the negotiations being so protracted it can only suggest to my simple mind that the whole business model has changed or is evolving. With apparently the leasehold situation agreed - and the finance in place (Bamboo?) the delay can only surely be linked to the business model being proposed. One club that has moved under the radar here is Brentford FC and their move to their new stadium ( a community Stadium) - a new stadium on a new site and of similar size to ours (there is a tenuous link to our stadium which I won't mention here as it is maybe - just too tenuous or coincidental). The build of the stadium has just started and due for completion in 2019 - I think this whole concept has taken even longer than ours. Their business model is linkage to homes and apartments I believe and also a rugby club sharing their stadium (not much chance of that happening with ours I would think). Brentford turned over £10.5 million last year and lost £23 million but are still going ahead with the owners and are already attracting interest from foreign investors to the tune of £25m - £30 million valuing the club at over £50 -£60 million. An established championship club building a 20k capacity stadium!! One thing that is throwing me is that no revised plans have not been submitted to SGC (maybe HG can confirm) and the Director brought in to look at the design of the stadium and effectively oversee it all has left the club. The same plans by the seem of things are still on the table - a bit strange!! Interesting observations Newblue. In respect of your last paragraph, why do the plans for the actual stadium need to change? Fair question. The plans have been on the table for a few years now and were embodied in the overall site scheme which I believe included a 'smallish hotel' amongst other things. If as I feel now the whole business model is changing I would have expected at least some changes however small (relatively) to the Stadium and its use. The playing side will be 'living' at the training complex and in the main only be using the Stadium to play their fixtures. The Stadium during the week I would guess will now be used to accommodate part of the business plans of the new owners which will be in all likelihood different from what Higgs & Co may have initially envisaged. With Michael Cunnagh being brought in (the expert) I cannot believe that he would not have recommended changes in some respects but nothing seemingly (almost unbelievably) has changed unless sometime soon something will be presented to SGC.
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