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Post by Henbury Gas on Apr 25, 2017 8:42:33 GMT
Interesting observations Newblue. In respect of your last paragraph, why do the plans for the actual stadium need to change? Fair question. The plans have been on the table for a few years now and were embodied in the overall site scheme which I believe included a 'smallish hotel' amongst other things. If as I feel now the whole business model is changing I would have expected at least some changes however small (relatively) to the Stadium and its use. The playing side will be 'living' at the training complex and in the main only be using the Stadium to play their fixtures. The Stadium during the week I would guess will now be used to accommodate part of the business plans of the new owners which will be in all likelihood different from what Higgs & Co may have initially envisaged. With Michael Cunnagh being brought in (the expert) I cannot believe that he would not have recommended changes in some respects but nothing seemingly (almost unbelievably) has changed unless sometime soon something will be presented to SGC. I believe the infrastructure within the original stadium design has been changed to reflect ideas from the other stadiums they have visited but the overall stadium structure is the same, so no major planning issues need to be addressed. these small changes can be accommodated with the "Change Note" system. The AMP-01 is still to be agreed so some changes may happen with that
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 9:07:55 GMT
I'm still waiting to read one single positive post that suggests you are actually Gas and I think you are a ted troll along with the other sad ones who have no life beyond slating Rovers. If you are trying to get other people to believe in your empty and fact less rhetoric, and in the outside chance that one or two real Gasheads believe in what you say then hopefully they will read this and understand that if you have billions in assets then borrowing tens of millions really is no issue, the family own a successful bank, three years ago took full control of HSBC banking in Jordan and the wealth continues to increase and the takeover and subsequent trading has been a success. The next level is customers who are itching to invest in billionaire institutions, there will be no shortage of people with money (not as much as AQ's) who want to have a slice of the pie. Then take away those facts of owning a significant slice of banking in Jordan, lets pretend it generates no money at all and is worthless shall we? And pretend in your troll world that there is no money. Oops, that can't work because there is the four seasons hotel in Amman, owned by the AQ's, 215 luxurious suites ranging between £250 - £450 per night, that doesn't include Royal Suites, prices aren't published for these rooms, full capacity for just 1 year is around £23M, not including food or drink. Back to the banks then, because after all they are real, it would have been nice to be a shareholder in the successful takeover of HSBC when the family decided to give out over £19m GBP to its shareholders following the takeover, FACT. So lets try and take a simple comparison, what you are trying to fool people into believing is that the family do not have the assets, backing, borrowing capability to fund a £50m stadium, it's laughable to suggest that the family are unable to raise around 3% of their net worth that other investors will fall over each other to be involved in and pay for in any case. Carry on with the clown antics in trying to poison the name of the family who have done more to improve the professionalism of the FC in 12 months than any previous chairman in the clubs history, you may fool the clueless into believing your nonsense that offers no support to the club, but plenty of real Gasheads out there with the foresight to have done some research prior to the takeover understand that we are in a very good position to take Rovers to places they have never been in the clubs history. Good luck with your struggle in the Championship next season Chippenham ted, you will need it, the gap is closing. Bad day at work mate? No all good in business, just sick to death of so called Gasheads slating the new owners who have achieved more in 12 months to give Rovers a professional status than anyone in the past, hopefully those working so hard behind the scenes to make this club progress completely ignore people who have no idea about how negotiating large projects work, particularly having to redress the suicidal plans put forward by Higgs.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 9:12:54 GMT
I'm still waiting to read one single positive post that suggests you are actually Gas and I think you are a ted troll along with the other sad ones who have no life beyond slating Rovers. If you are trying to get other people to believe in your empty and fact less rhetoric, and in the outside chance that one or two real Gasheads believe in what you say then hopefully they will read this and understand that if you have billions in assets then borrowing tens of millions really is no issue, the family own a successful bank, three years ago took full control of HSBC banking in Jordan and the wealth continues to increase and the takeover and subsequent trading has been a success. The next level is customers who are itching to invest in billionaire institutions, there will be no shortage of people with money (not as much as AQ's) who want to have a slice of the pie. Then take away those facts of owning a significant slice of banking in Jordan, lets pretend it generates no money at all and is worthless shall we? And pretend in your troll world that there is no money. Oops, that can't work because there is the four seasons hotel in Amman, owned by the AQ's, 215 luxurious suites ranging between £250 - £450 per night, that doesn't include Royal Suites, prices aren't published for these rooms, full capacity for just 1 year is around £23M, not including food or drink. Back to the banks then, because after all they are real, it would have been nice to be a shareholder in the successful takeover of HSBC when the family decided to give out over £19m GBP to its shareholders following the takeover, FACT. So lets try and take a simple comparison, what you are trying to fool people into believing is that the family do not have the assets, backing, borrowing capability to fund a £50m stadium, it's laughable to suggest that the family are unable to raise around 3% of their net worth that other investors will fall over each other to be involved in and pay for in any case. Carry on with the clown antics in trying to poison the name of the family who have done more to improve the professionalism of the FC in 12 months than any previous chairman in the clubs history, you may fool the clueless into believing your nonsense that offers no support to the club, but plenty of real Gasheads out there with the foresight to have done some research prior to the takeover understand that we are in a very good position to take Rovers to places they have never been in the clubs history. Good luck with your struggle in the Championship next season Chippenham ted, you will need it, the gap is closing. So you wrote an essay telling me how wealthy our new owners are yet they have spent 15 months quibbling over a few million on the value of the uwe freehold. The thing could have been built ready for August and earning valuable extra revenue. It's very niave to take everything at face valuable, always best to question and hold to account. Neither you nor i have any idea what their intentions are, just remember we weren't their first choice. Has it ever crossed your mind how people become billionaires in business? Did you expect the AQ's to simply go with Higgs disaster plan? Ever worked in large projects with protracted negotiations requiring changes?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 9:36:17 GMT
So you wrote an essay telling me how wealthy our new owners are yet they have spent 15 months quibbling over a few million on the value of the uwe freehold. The thing could have been built ready for August and earning valuable extra revenue. It's very niave to take everything at face valuable, always best to question and hold to account. Neither you nor i have any idea what their intentions are, just remember we weren't their first choice. Has it ever crossed your mind how people become billionaires in business? Did you expect the AQ's to simply go with Higgs disaster plan? Ever worked in large projects with protracted negotiations requiring changes? Just an observation - you say "WE are in a very good position to take ........" Part of the team? As an aside I have worked on very large protracted Contract Negotiations at the 'sharp end'.
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Post by simon1883 on Apr 25, 2017 10:34:22 GMT
So you wrote an essay telling me how wealthy our new owners are yet they have spent 15 months quibbling over a few million on the value of the uwe freehold. The thing could have been built ready for August and earning valuable extra revenue. It's very niave to take everything at face valuable, always best to question and hold to account. Neither you nor i have any idea what their intentions are, just remember we weren't their first choice. Why weren't we their first choice? a few yrs ago I wanted to move to a bigger house. I looked at lots of houses before eventually deciding on the place I've got now. It's well documented they looked at other football clubs but the point is they didn't buy them did they? They wanted a football club, looked around and in the end chose us. Just like I did when buying my house...... I looked around and after looking at many others before I made my choice. Because they offered money for Gillingham first. It was only that the Gills chairman decided that he wanted to carry on because he lived his club. That's why we were not their first choice!! .
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Post by yattongas on Apr 25, 2017 11:22:28 GMT
Why weren't we their first choice? a few yrs ago I wanted to move to a bigger house. I looked at lots of houses before eventually deciding on the place I've got now. It's well documented they looked at other football clubs but the point is they didn't buy them did they? They wanted a football club, looked around and in the end chose us. Just like I did when buying my house...... I looked around and after looking at many others before I made my choice. Because they offered money for Gillingham first. It was only that the Gills chairman decided that he wanted to carry on because he lived his club. That's why we were not their first choice!! . So what, they didn't buy it did they! They either didn't offer enough or the seller didn't want to sell. I really can't see why it matters if we were first choice or tenth . He probably had Chelesea as his first choice but couldn't afford it or the Russian wouldn't sell it.
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Post by baggins on Apr 25, 2017 11:34:51 GMT
Because they offered money for Gillingham first. It was only that the Gills chairman decided that he wanted to carry on because he lived his club. That's why we were not their first choice!! . So what, they didn't buy it did they! They either didn't offer enough or the seller didn't want to sell. I really can't see why it matters if we were first choice or tenth . He probably had Chelesea as his first choice but couldn't afford it or the Russian wouldn't sell it. I had a quiet word with Wael after the Gillingham meeting. Thank me with a beer Sunday.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 11:37:32 GMT
So what, they didn't buy it did they! They either didn't offer enough or the seller didn't want to sell. I really can't see why it matters if we were first choice or tenth . He probably had Chelesea as his first choice but couldn't afford it or the Russian wouldn't sell it. I had a quiet word with Wael after the Gillingham meeting. Thank me with a beer Sunday. Tell me bags and I'll thank you with more than a beer. X pm me. Xx
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 25, 2017 11:42:46 GMT
I had a quiet word with Wael after the Gillingham meeting. Thank me with a beer Sunday. Tell me bags and I'll thank you with more than a beer. X pm me. Xx Take your turn in the queue!
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Post by baggins on Apr 25, 2017 11:58:39 GMT
I had a quiet word with Wael after the Gillingham meeting. Thank me with a beer Sunday. Tell me bags and I'll thank you with more than a beer. X pm me. Xx Confidentiality agreement. Say no more.
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Post by knowall on Apr 25, 2017 12:13:36 GMT
Why weren't we their first choice? a few yrs ago I wanted to move to a bigger house. I looked at lots of houses before eventually deciding on the place I've got now. It's well documented they looked at other football clubs but the point is they didn't buy them did they? They wanted a football club, looked around and in the end chose us. Just like I did when buying my house...... I looked around and after looking at many others before I made my choice. Because they offered money for Gillingham first. It was only that the Gills chairman decided that he wanted to carry on because he lived his club. That's why we were not their first choice!! . so we were 2nd choice - Gills first gas 2nd
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Post by Henbury Gas on Apr 25, 2017 12:13:56 GMT
So what, they didn't buy it did they! They either didn't offer enough or the seller didn't want to sell. I really can't see why it matters if we were first choice or tenth . He probably had Chelesea as his first choice but couldn't afford it or the Russian wouldn't sell it. I had a quiet word with Wael after the Gillingham meeting. Thank me with a beer Sunday. You old enough to drink beer ? Wow
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 12:15:45 GMT
I had a quiet word with Wael after the Gillingham meeting. Thank me with a beer Sunday. You old enough to drink beer ? Wow The thought of bags with a creamy frothy top lip fills me with happiness.
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Post by baggins on Apr 25, 2017 12:17:27 GMT
You old enough to drink beer ? Wow The thought of bags with a creamy frothy top lip fills me with happiness. Stop it.
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Post by Marshy on Apr 25, 2017 12:17:52 GMT
Well that's nearly it guys and gals fast approaching 50 pages of total sh**e on this thread and none of us are any the wiser! If it reaches 60 before we get any news I'm going to book a flight with Dignitas travel company anyone interested?
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Post by baggins on Apr 25, 2017 12:17:53 GMT
I had a quiet word with Wael after the Gillingham meeting. Thank me with a beer Sunday. You old enough to drink beer ? Wow Aw, bless you.
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Post by baggins on Apr 25, 2017 12:22:49 GMT
Well that's nearly it guys and gals fast approaching 50 pages of total sh**e on this thread and none of us are any the wiser! If it reaches 60 before we get any news I'm going to book a flight with Dignitas travel company anyone interested? I'm going to make something up. UWE will start in August and it's Clark's curry pies all the way. No allocated seating, survival of the fittest, no toilets just a trench, no blankets allowed, seats will be a nice magnolia and the only alchohol is Babycham. Heard it here first.
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Post by Marshy on Apr 25, 2017 12:26:01 GMT
Well that's nearly it guys and gals fast approaching 50 pages of total sh**e on this thread and none of us are any the wiser! If it reaches 60 before we get any news I'm going to book a flight with Dignitas travel company anyone interested? I'm going to make something up. UWE will start in August and it's Clark's curry pies all the way. No allocated seating, survival of the fittest, no toilets just a trench, no blankets allowed, seats will be a nice magnolia and the only alchohol is Babycham. Heard it here first. Aren't you getting confused with AG aka the library?
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 25, 2017 12:26:35 GMT
So you wrote an essay telling me how wealthy our new owners are yet they have spent 15 months quibbling over a few million on the value of the uwe freehold. The thing could have been built ready for August and earning valuable extra revenue. It's very niave to take everything at face valuable, always best to question and hold to account. Neither you nor i have any idea what their intentions are, just remember we weren't their first choice. Has it ever crossed your mind how people become billionaires in business? Did you expect the AQ's to simply go with Higgs disaster plan? Ever worked in large projects with protracted negotiations requiring changes? Higgs was effectively being given a free stadium by Sainsbury's so it didn't need to generate the interest repayments on a £50m loan.
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Post by baggins on Apr 25, 2017 12:29:55 GMT
I'm going to make something up. UWE will start in August and it's Clark's curry pies all the way. No allocated seating, survival of the fittest, no toilets just a trench, no blankets allowed, seats will be a nice magnolia and the only alchohol is Babycham. Heard it here first. Aren't you getting confused with AG aka the library? How dare you.
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