Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 20:35:20 GMT
and in other news: I'm gonna have the cleanest season ticket at the mem on Saturday.... because my partner has just run it through the washing machine Ouch
|
|
|
Post by stevek192 on Mar 15, 2017 20:58:35 GMT
The farce of the decision is that the thing which started all this booking for diving was where players took a dive in the PENALTY AREA and the only one who did that was the Bury player!! It is not just the sending off or the penalty though. The referee was a joke from first to last whistle and MOST of his decisions were wrong and the majority were in Burys favour and from a referee who lives about ten miles away from Bury. There were three dubious free kicks on the edge of our penalty area that were right in the middle and all three looked very much like dives. The penalty incident Moore made no attempt to either play the ball or tackle the player and the player went straight into his foot and dived. I would say if somebody looked at every decision this referee made last night they could easily question his integrity. It was that bad.
|
|
Marshy
Proper Gas
Posts: 14,119
|
Post by Marshy on Mar 16, 2017 7:26:55 GMT
The farce of the decision is that the thing which started all this booking for diving was where players took a dive in the PENALTY AREA and the only one who did that was the Bury player!! It is not just the sending off or the penalty though. The referee was a joke from first to last whistle and MOST of his decisions were wrong and the majority were in Burys favour and from a referee who lives about ten miles away from Bury. There were three dubious free kicks on the edge of our penalty area that were right in the middle and all three looked very much like dives. The penalty incident Moore made no attempt to either play the ball or tackle the player and the player went straight into his foot and dived. I would say if somebody looked at every decision this referee made last night they could easily question his integrity. It was that bad. I couldn't agree more Steve, the FA should have a serious look at this footage people like that are ruining the game. I didn't go myself but I feel really sorry for all the Gas that did a proper injustice and blatant cheating by Bury & especially the ref, Dam lady garden!
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 7:45:48 GMT
The farce of the decision is that the thing which started all this booking for diving was where players took a dive in the PENALTY AREA and the only one who did that was the Bury player!! It is not just the sending off or the penalty though. The referee was a joke from first to last whistle and MOST of his decisions were wrong and the majority were in Burys favour and from a referee who lives about ten miles away from Bury. There were three dubious free kicks on the edge of our penalty area that were right in the middle and all three looked very much like dives. The penalty incident Moore made no attempt to either play the ball or tackle the player and the player went straight into his foot and dived. I would say if somebody looked at every decision this referee made last night they could easily question his integrity. It was that bad. I couldn't agree more Steve, the FA should have a serious look at this footage people like that are ruining the game. I didn't go myself but I feel really sorry for all the Gas that did a proper injustice and blatant cheating by Bury & especially the ref, f**king lady garden! I hope the Referee Assessor who would of been at the game will make an honest report to the FA - although nepotism will provably prevail as is normally the case!!
|
|
|
Post by philbemmygas on Mar 16, 2017 7:48:54 GMT
I couldn't agree more Steve, the FA should have a serious look at this footage people like that are ruining the game. I didn't go myself but I feel really sorry for all the Gas that did a proper injustice and blatant cheating by Bury & especially the ref, f**king lady garden! I hope the Referee Assessor who would of been at the game will make an honest report to the FA - although nepotism will provably prevail as is normally the case!! Quite often the assessor will make his report saying that the Officials were wrong or right depending how they view it. As for Gregs what a muppet
|
|
|
Post by rovers5charlton5 on Mar 16, 2017 8:01:36 GMT
We apparently tried an unusual tactic after the 3rd goal restart, can anyone shed any light on this?
|
|
|
Post by midlandgas213 on Mar 16, 2017 8:21:04 GMT
Cannot find the away support numbers anyone got how many gas travelled
|
|
|
Post by axegas on Mar 16, 2017 8:51:36 GMT
Cannot find the away support numbers anyone got how many gas travelled 346
|
|
|
Post by fanboy on Mar 16, 2017 9:05:42 GMT
Sinclair always flies all over the place but I think that's more his rapid style of play than diving. Tiny man running at ferocious pace is always gonna end up falling over a lot!
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 9:55:16 GMT
Unbelievable WUMS on here again. Firstly Sinclair is not a cheat. He had nothing to gain from diving on the halfway line. Their player could not win the ball from that angle and was out of position-professional foul with minimal contact. That is never a yellow card, at worst a telling off if the ref believes Sinclair has gone down too easily. The second is a free kick to Bury and a stern telling off/final warning. If in the box then a yellow wouldn't be too harsh for simulation.
The penalty decision leads me to question the referees ability. Surely that is a yellow card for simulation based on his precedent beforehand?
There should be an inquest and if that game was live on Sky he would have dominated the half time/full time discussion.
|
|
|
Post by Squiffy on Mar 16, 2017 22:18:34 GMT
How many signatures on a petition do we need to force the FA to conduct an extraordinary review of the game/refs performance? Oh wait, that's the HoP. Shame we can't though....
|
|
|
Post by rovers5charlton5 on Mar 17, 2017 6:02:36 GMT
How many signatures on a petition do we need to force the FA to conduct an extraordinary review of the game/refs performance? Oh wait, that's the HoP. Shame we can't though.... If we managed to get 100,000 signatures, they'd need to debate it in Parliament.
|
|
|
Post by BishopstonBRFC on Mar 17, 2017 6:34:54 GMT
Does the ref honestly live 11 miles from Bury?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2017 7:06:58 GMT
Does the ref honestly live 11 miles from Bury? Think it was 16 ish miles.....not a big enough difference to make a difference. It really shouldn't matter where the ref lives if they are professional .Should just declare any teams they support...which would also include their rivals.
|
|
|
Post by BishopstonBRFC on Mar 17, 2017 10:25:31 GMT
Does the ref honestly live 11 miles from Bury? Think it was 16 ish miles.....not a big enough difference to make a difference. It really shouldn't matter where the ref lives if they are professional .Should just declare any teams they support...which would also include their rivals.
I dunno...can you imagine if a ref living that close to Bristol did one of our games. Or the sh** had all the luck Bury had with a ref from Clevedon?
|
|
|
Post by warehamgas on Mar 17, 2017 11:28:15 GMT
The farce of the decision is that the thing which started all this booking for diving was where players took a dive in the PENALTY AREA and the only one who did that was the Bury player!! It is not just the sending off or the penalty though. The referee was a joke from first to last whistle and MOST of his decisions were wrong and the majority were in Burys favour and from a referee who lives about ten miles away from Bury. There were three dubious free kicks on the edge of our penalty area that were right in the middle and all three looked very much like dives. The penalty incident Moore made no attempt to either play the ball or tackle the player and the player went straight into his foot and dived. I would say if somebody looked at every decision this referee made last night they could easily question his integrity. It was that bad. I couldn't agree more Steve, the FA should have a serious look at this footage people like that are ruining the game. I didn't go myself but I feel really sorry for all the Gas that did a proper injustice and blatant cheating by Bury & especially the ref, f**king lady garden! The FA will never do it. They have little concern for what happens in leagues 1 or 2. Unless it hits the news, which a league 1 game won't, the FA will not consider it. It probably won't even have registered on their "to do list." And tbh if anyone thinks the FA will do anything about incompetent referees you will need to think again. All you can ever hope for is at the end of season review and when refs are selected for next season I am sure some will not reappear, marks, observations will be taken into account and some refs will go to non league. All we can do now is move on and hope we win against Chesterfield. Frustrating I know but that is the way it is I think. UTG!
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2017 11:32:05 GMT
How many signatures on a petition do we need to force the FA to conduct an extraordinary review of the game/refs performance? Oh wait, that's the HoP. Shame we can't though.... If we managed to get 100,000 signatures, they'd need to debate it in Parliament.
easy just go around all the gasheads locked out of the Cov game
|
|
|
Post by warehamgas on Mar 17, 2017 12:13:35 GMT
This will probably upset lots of posters on here but here goes. Being a ticket holder at Bournemouth I see lots of games from a neutrals point of view. It's good to see Bournemouth doing well but I'm not a supporter and I've never particularly liked them as they have usually been a rival of Rovers for most of my lifetime and having lived in the area for 40 years and watched their home games for 20 odd years with sons who have grown up supporting them (local team, didn't want my sons supporting Man U or any other big name!) I feel I see matches in a way some fans don't. They are too close emotionally to what happens and they presume a few things: 1. If one of their players falls over it must be a foul. 2. If one of the opposition players fall over, it's a dive. 3. If a ball hits an away player above the waist it must be handball. 4. If a ball hits the home player on the hand he couldn't get out if the way or it hit the shoulder. My point is that most referees get it right most of the time. Of course they can't get it right all of the time, no one does. But watching as a neutral at Bournemouth I will disagree with the people around me at least 50% of the time because I think the referee was right and made the right call. And at half time they sometimes admit they were wrong. Most fans will shout and scream when it happens, just as I do when watching Rovers, but they are wrong imo because the ref has made the right call. Fans are too close emotionally to it and can't see it as decision to be made, it becomes too much of a personal attack by the ref! I see lots of games as a neutral and I suspect most people don't, they see games as part of a group of fans, and have a tribal view on it, we're right the opposition is wrong and they're a bunch of numpties into the bargain!!
It has always been like that and unfortunately it's getting worse. Players generally have made it almost impossible for referees to referee or judge some decisions. They look for legs or feet left behind so they can put their own feet there and get tripped and gain an advantage or even a penalty. They exaggerate any contact to try and get a yellow card given or even a red. Basically they cheat, like Vardy and go down as if they are pole axed. Years ago Frankie Prince and others like Gerry Gow would have been ashamed to have shown that they were hurt or could be knocked over by some things that happen now. Unfortunately fans and the public are reaping the results of years of cheating, gamesmanship, poor sportsmen (doesn't that sound old-fashioned!) and a general lowering of refereeing standards. I genuinely feel sympathy for referees trying to adjudicate in some situations. I also feel sympathy for football fans everywhere who spend money, time and effort going to matches only to see them spoilt by poor decisions and players cheating (because that's what it is) and trying to con the referee. It's not just Rovers fans who have been let down by this and I suspect all clubs have their stories about incompetent referees.
This is not aimed at our fans complaining about Tuesday, I wasn't there so don't feel qualified to comment but in the two long reports given one, from Irish said the ref didn't cost us the match. My points are more about the refs having an unenviable task and feel that players generally don't help. I would have said anyone knowing Stuart Sinclair would know he wouldn't do that but refs can't be expected to know that or take it into account.
Now if someone had criticised linesmen then I would agree. From watching them over the past 10 years or so what is the point of them? I really don't know any more. Any decision they take over free kicks, throw ins or anything they look to the referee first and then agree. They don't decide throw ins themselves and just agree with the ref? They don't make many decisions themselves and they certainly don't help the referees at all. They may be within yards of an incident but will agree with a ref 50 yards away. Apart from offside which they often get wrong they have no value. They are unfit and are often 3/4 metres behind the play and get crucial decisions wrong. Totally useless and that's in the PL. it is as if they want to provide a united team with the other officials even if they are wrong. A totally stupid way of doing things.
Rant over! UTG!
|
|
|
Post by Topper Gas on Mar 17, 2017 12:55:16 GMT
How can anyone say the ref didn't cost us the match when he sent off Since when one of the yellows looked very dubious, and gave Bury their first goal with a very dubious looking penalty. I'd say Bury were always going to win as the local ref had decided the outcome before the match had kicked off. Past performances suggest he's not a poor ref, which adds weight to that view.
|
|
|
Post by stevek192 on Mar 17, 2017 13:49:38 GMT
Referee was not impartial and 90% of decisions made on Tuesday went in favour of Bury. At least four other diving incidents in the game all by Bury players and all went unpunished. I don't like blaming referees but he was totally to blame for the defeat on Tuesday. We didn't help the situation but I can understand why the players became frustrated when you get no consistency with decisions.
|
|