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Post by miamigas on Apr 3, 2017 17:25:26 GMT
I find it incredible that we are experiencing the 'end of season feel' when we are only 6 points off the play offs to the Championship with 5 games to go. I don't really understand it, however unlikely It may be.. Not sure it would be the case at many other clubs in our current position. Maybe we all realise how spoilt we've been. The dream is on. Don't agree with the mentality of 'we'll just challenge next season' - nothing's guaranteed and it will be a tougher division. This. 6 points off, 15 to play for. Keep the faith. UTG!
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Post by paulpirate on Apr 3, 2017 17:28:36 GMT
To get to the next level and stay there we are going to have to spend money,next season will the pressure will be on Darrel cause the fans will expect top 6 at least He's done brilliantly the last 3 seasons without the pressure,overachieved but the next few seasons he will under a lot more pressure
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 17:31:44 GMT
I find it incredible that we are experiencing the 'end of season feel' when we are only 6 points off the play offs to the Championship with 5 games to go. I don't really understand it, however unlikely It may be.. Not sure it would be the case at many other clubs in our current position. Maybe we all realise how spoilt we've been. The dream is on. Don't agree with the mentality of 'we'll just challenge next season' - nothing's guaranteed and it will be a tougher division. It's not that simple to be fair - games in hand etc. mean it warps our position and has done for a few weeks. If results go our way midweek and we win both of the next two away games (or just close the gap) I can assure you it won't be an end of the season feel vs Oldham. As it is I think we're reliant on too many teams, as we saw last year it takes a lot for even one team to slip up, let alone 2 or 3.
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Post by kampucheagas on Apr 3, 2017 17:34:14 GMT
Under pressure if we aren't top 6? Really? I would argue he's deserving of our patience. I'd hate to join the instant success mania that sweeps modern football. Already Clarke is one of the leagues longest serving managers.... He's learning as we go.....and if given time he WILL take us higher
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 17:34:59 GMT
To get to the next level and stay there we are going to have to spend money,next season will the pressure will be on Darrel cause the fans will expect top 6 at least He's done brilliantly the last 3 seasons without the pressure,overachieved but the next few seasons he will under a lot more pressure I think the pressure was immense in the conference season, on manager and players. That moment when McCrystal sank to his knees will always stay with me.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Apr 3, 2017 18:32:38 GMT
To get to the next level and stay there we are going to have to spend money,next season will the pressure will be on Darrel cause the fans will expect top 6 at least He's done brilliantly the last 3 seasons without the pressure,overachieved but the next few seasons he will under a lot more pressure I certainly won't be expecting at least top 6. I think some people need a reality check. Going hell for leather for promotion while playing at the Mem would be madness. Orient tried it a few seasons back and look where they are now. And that was before the nutcase owner they now have!
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Post by paulpirate on Apr 3, 2017 19:32:36 GMT
Well a lot will and I'm sure Darrel will want to improve each season and we won't be far off it come the end,why all the talk about the mem and we can't go up? Many other teams have been there with less crowds,what if fleetwood go up? Will they be gutted
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Post by Centenary Gas on Apr 3, 2017 20:29:28 GMT
Well a lot will and I'm sure Darrel will want to improve each season and we won't be far off it come the end,why all the talk about the mem and we can't go up? Many other teams have been there with less crowds,what if fleetwood go up? Will they be gutted We could go up and stay up, sure. But theres a bloody good chance we would be in the bottom 3 at Xmas and half our fan base would be calling for DC's head. It's a potential disaster for our progress, and I'd rather wait until we are better suited to make a good go of it. Preferably with the UWE in sight. Luckily, Southend or Scunny need to get 9 points or less if we win every game, and neither will likely happen.
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 3, 2017 20:30:15 GMT
To get to the next level and stay there we are going to have to spend money,next season will the pressure will be on Darrel cause the fans will expect top 6 at least He's done brilliantly the last 3 seasons without the pressure,overachieved but the next few seasons he will under a lot more pressure I certainly won't be expecting at least top 6. I think some people need a reality check. Going hell for leather for promotion while playing at the Mem would be madness. Orient tried it a few seasons back and look where they are now. And that was before the nutcase owner they now have! I doubt DC will be content just to thread water next season as a top 8/10 team so the target must be top 6? Plus if the UWE gets the go ahead I'm sure the aim will be to be playing Championship in the new stadium, if the UWE plans fall through then that's another story. As far as fans accepting we can't always push for promotion some posters were saying on one of the threads after Saturday's match they should have stayed at home, that's after we won an hard fought battle still leaving ourselves with an outside chance of promotion.
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Post by Icegas on Apr 3, 2017 21:27:20 GMT
To get to the next level and stay there we are going to have to spend money,next season will the pressure will be on Darrel cause the fans will expect top 6 at least He's done brilliantly the last 3 seasons without the pressure,overachieved but the next few seasons he will under a lot more pressure I'm pretty sure the pressure on DC in our conference season was higher than it will be next season.That season,there was no other manager in the country other than moyes taking over from fergie that had more pressure DC had on him.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 22:47:32 GMT
To get to the next level and stay there we are going to have to spend money,next season will the pressure will be on Darrel cause the fans will expect top 6 at least He's done brilliantly the last 3 seasons without the pressure,overachieved but the next few seasons he will under a lot more pressure I dont agree with your "without the pressure" comment,every supporter was desperate to get back into the league nothing but promotion would have been considered a success in my view.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 22:50:43 GMT
Under pressure if we aren't top 6? Really? I would argue he's deserving of our patience. I'd hate to join the instant success mania that sweeps modern football. Already Clarke is one of the leagues longest serving managers.... He's learning as we go.....and if given time he WILL take us higher I agree with you but the simple fact is that if we struggle next season plenty of fans will turn on him and he would be under pressure despite all thats gone before imo.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 4, 2017 6:04:01 GMT
Under pressure if we aren't top 6? Really? I would argue he's deserving of our patience. I'd hate to join the instant success mania that sweeps modern football. Already Clarke is one of the leagues longest serving managers.... He's learning as we go.....and if given time he WILL take us higher I agree with you but the simple fact is that if we struggle next season plenty of fans will turn on him and he would be under pressure despite all thats gone before imo. Sad isn't it.
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Post by tommym9 on Apr 4, 2017 6:11:37 GMT
People were calling for his head this season when we went through a sticky patch around December/January
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Apr 4, 2017 6:22:26 GMT
There's no guarantee of success next season, look at what happened to us under Holloway. We were top of the league and cruising, when a run of bad results caused us to miss out on the play offs with a record number of points.
The following season we didn't challenge again, we got relegated.
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Post by lympstonegas on Apr 4, 2017 6:27:12 GMT
People were calling for his head this season when we went through a sticky patch around December/January Some certainly were at Coventry!!
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Post by darkbluegas on Apr 4, 2017 7:16:32 GMT
If DC feels the owners are happy to tread water in the hope that one day, maybe, the UWE decide to sale the site he won't be here to worry about whether he's under pressure or not.
It's a very simple fact that DC believes he will be backed to make the top 6 next year. His recent interview suggested he would be here for the long haul.
What will be telling is how he copes as a manager of players of a higher standard on more money and with experience. Until now he's moulded the club in his own likeness. Soon he'll be managing players that have played a better standard than he ever did. Many a bright young manager has come badly unstuck at this point in their careers and not just in football. It's pretty clear that today's wealthy players hold a significant amount of power in the game and how DC deals with that pressure will be telling.
You don't need to look too far towards North Somerset to realise how quickly the power can shift from the managers office to the players car park.
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Post by miamigas on Apr 4, 2017 7:50:49 GMT
DC knows what he is doing. DC is in it for the long haul. DC will become our "Shankly". DC will be spoken of 50-100 years from now with reverence. Oh....and by the way, this season ain't over yet. In DC we trust. UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 7:53:41 GMT
People were calling for his head this season when we went through a sticky patch around December/January Some certainly were at Coventry!! The best fans went to Coventry.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 9:20:11 GMT
If DC feels the owners are happy to tread water in the hope that one day, maybe, the UWE decide to sale the site he won't be here to worry about whether he's under pressure or not. It's a very simple fact that DC believes he will be backed to make the top 6 next year. His recent interview suggested he would be here for the long haul. What will be telling is how he copes as a manager of players of a higher standard on more money and with experience. Until now he's moulded the club in his own likeness. Soon he'll be managing players that have played a better standard than he ever did. Many a bright young manager has come badly unstuck at this point in their careers and not just in football. It's pretty clear that today's wealthy players hold a significant amount of power in the game and how DC deals with that pressure will be telling. You don't need to look too far towards North Somerset to realise how quickly the power can shift from the managers office to the players car park. There is no evidence that we will be signing players "of a higher standard who are on more money" Also he did just fine managing easter and lines didnt he?
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