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Post by spiess1 on May 23, 2017 17:32:38 GMT
gasincider, the "time to tell us if UWE is going to happen" is when the parties see fit, NOT when you and your gossips want to know.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on May 23, 2017 17:33:35 GMT
Did I say anything to elicit that response ? You need to read what I've posted then you'd know exactly what I am saying. Maybe a few are missing Nick Higgs school of monthly non news and BS over a period of quiet before giving a detailed announcement Sorry kp, having read it back I see what you now mean. First time I read it I thought you were saying that the we didnt have the right to know if the stadium was going to be built or not! Honestly no problem. I'm cranky and sick and it's not the best thing to do, trawling forums when not good. Think I shall leave all devices alone tonight and chill out. Personally, just my gut feeling, the Al Qadi family have produced all they set out and more, to date. I just wish more could maybe allow some period of time before diving in with stuff that is not based in fact but on the old style Higgs gossip.
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Post by Jon the Stripe on May 23, 2017 17:46:37 GMT
Businesses keep major acquisitions under wraps until 'they are ready to announce'. Even when deals are agreed solicitors have mountains of paperwork to sift through before anything can be announced as it could all unravel at any stage and collapse the deal. So nobody with an ounce of accumen would announce a done deal until it is contracted. The backlash would be furious and rightly so. If a deal is done or fallen through there are also many people involved who MUST be told first- investors/partners/staff/manager etc all need to be informed before us. And until a deal is finalised you should not discuss it with anyone other than the other party, that is very disrespectful and in worse case scenario could scupper any plans/agreements.
Patience is needed (yes i know we've waited long enough) but the end to this particular saga is getting closer and Mr Al Qadi and Mr Hamer are doing whats right - being professional. And christ we've waited a long time for our club to be that.
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Post by toddy1953 on May 23, 2017 17:55:09 GMT
Businesses keep major acquisitions under wraps until 'they are ready to announce'. Even when deals are agreed solicitors have mountains of paperwork to sift through before anything can be announced as it could all unravel at any stage and collapse the deal. So nobody with an ounce of accumen would announce a done deal until it is contracted. The backlash would be furious and rightly so. If a deal is done or fallen through there are also many people involved who MUST be told first- investors/partners/staff/manager etc all need to be informed before us. And until a deal is finalised you should not discuss it with anyone other than the other party, that is very disrespectful and in worse case scenario could scupper any plans/agreements. Patience is needed (yes i know we've waited long enough) but the end to this particular saga is getting closer and Mr Al Qadi and Mr Hamer are doing whats right - being professional. And christ we've waited a long time for our club to be that. Agree. I think the problem in the past, was that there was so many leaks & people used to drip feed their 'news' on forums. i get the anxiety though, but we were last told by SH that we would know by the end of Aug, so like it or not we have to be patient for a little while yet. i am hoping that if we have agreed, then we are booking the contracting dates & the build timeframe - I hope.
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Post by Henbury Gas on May 23, 2017 18:05:38 GMT
For what its worth, No movement on the planning front for both projects
I do believe a stadium will get built, either at the UWE or some other local site South Glos have offered to the owners, which will have more potential to develop into the money making project both parties want
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2017 18:26:42 GMT
I must admit the deafening silence from the club does not bode well. I do wonder about financial viability of this venture if it's being funded by investors seeking a return. Suppose investors want a modesty 5% return on the £40m or so, well that's £2m in interest a year before loan repayments. So unless there are pretty certain returns from the commercial side of the stadium then it sounds like a non-runner unless the family are willing to finance a big chunk interest free. Here come the forensic dissector and financial experts who do nothing but speculate, assume and presume abd upon nothing. Sheesh, it's really quite painful how fickle the clubs fans, at least some forum users, have become. Luckily many don't use them and are reasonably happy Nothing complex or forensic just saying the stadium will need to produce a substantial return if outside investors are to be financed. Perhaps the family will finance it without a return, who knows...nothing fickle in pointing out what should be obvious to anyone who gives this some through. Still as they say ignorance is bliss.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2017 18:27:11 GMT
The closer we get to August, the more likely nothing is going to happen - sorry but true !? No. Just another opinion and based upon nothing but conjecture and judging the new owner upon the crappy old ones Without the crappy old owners we wouldn't be were we are now.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2017 18:39:05 GMT
I've been looking forward to an informative new thread which cuts out the guesswork and fudge...
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2017 18:44:56 GMT
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Post by Slide away on May 23, 2017 18:51:20 GMT
Another UWE thread- just what was needed!!
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Post by Okebournegas on May 23, 2017 18:55:10 GMT
I must admit the deafening silence from the club does not bode well. I do wonder about financial viability of this venture if it's being funded by investors seeking a return. Suppose investors want a modesty 5% return on the £40m or so, well that's £2m in interest a year before loan repayments. So unless there are pretty certain returns from the commercial side of the stadium then it sounds like a non-runner unless the family are willing to finance a big chunk interest free. Here come the forensic dissector and financial experts who do nothing but speculate, assume and presume abd upon nothing. Sheesh, it's really quite painful how fickle the clubs fans, at least some forum users, have become. Luckily many don't use them and are reasonably happy I don't tend to comment on stadium posts as I simply do not have a clue, I will however like to say that I totally agree with what you just posted in regards to certain posters on here being financial experts who like to speculate on all things related to our dealings with UWE when in reality they are as much in the dark as everyone else! Brilliant kp !!!!
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Post by dave1883gas on May 23, 2017 19:03:09 GMT
I have posted previously to say that I understand that a deal was agreed for freehold of the land approx a month ago and this is was agreed at a meeting between UWE, SH, WA and the club solicitor on a Friday at UWE. This is from someone who I have known for a long time and who has a reason to know this rather than someone just picking up on gossip. This is also someone who has told me other things in the past which have been 100% spot on...I cannot say any more as I don't want to abuse this persons trust or stop receiving info in the future. I was told that all that is left to do is for money to change hands to acquire the land. There does seem to be a delay on an announcement but hoping that is more to do with paperwork being exchanged etc rather than a problem with funds! The club have recently paid around £1.5m for the training ground and will need to pay somewhere in the region of £4m to build it. The land at UWE could be circa £1m an acre and the build cost is more likely £55m to £60m not the £35m originally planned for. I really hope that it's not sudfennly hitting home how much money is required to get all these things off the ground as well as providing DC with a competitive budget.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2017 19:05:22 GMT
Why not tweet wael? Or UWE? Or someone try and buy the land and see what they say?
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Post by dave1883gas on May 23, 2017 19:05:58 GMT
I was also told training ground plans are due to go in shortly but have been tweaked (I can say I have seen those with my own eyes and they look mighty impressive).
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Post by Topper Gas on May 23, 2017 19:17:12 GMT
I was also told training ground plans are due to go in shortly but have been tweaked (I can say I have seen those with my own eyes and they look mighty impressive). How convenient! Odd HG's SGlos contact hasn't apparently heard anything as surely our architects would speak to the SGlos planners before they submitted any plans? 13 posts all mainly stadium related from a new poster gaschat.co.uk/user/2319/recentIt seems slightly odd that they don't seem interested in anything else going on at Rovers?
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Post by dave1883gas on May 23, 2017 19:25:32 GMT
I was also told training ground plans are due to go in shortly but have been tweaked (I can say I have seen those with my own eyes and they look mighty impressive). How convenient! Odd HG's SGlos contact hasn't apparently heard anything as surely our architects would speak to the SGlos planners before they submitted any plans? I have seen the plans with my own eyes so I wouldn't say it was convenient unless someone has gone to the trouble of mocking up some plans for the purposes of showing me to put on this forum.
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Post by knowall on May 23, 2017 19:32:24 GMT
No. Just another opinion and based upon nothing but conjecture and judging the new owner upon the crappy old ones Without the crappy old owners we wouldn't be were we are now. Yes we could have been in a better place by now
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Post by spiess1 on May 23, 2017 19:32:39 GMT
dave or "the scab"? - Ummm, tricky.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 23, 2017 19:32:47 GMT
How convenient! Odd HG's SGlos contact hasn't apparently heard anything as surely our architects would speak to the SGlos planners before they submitted any plans? I have seen the plans with my own eyes so I wouldn't say it was convenient unless someone has gone to the trouble of mocking up some plans for the purposes of showing me to put on this forum. So what are the plans, who many pitches etc are planned at The Colony, will the clubhouse be single or double storey?
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Post by knowall on May 23, 2017 19:33:04 GMT
gasincider, the "time to tell us if UWE is going to happen" is when the parties see fit, NOT when you and your gossips want to know. absolutely right
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