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Post by tommym9 on Aug 30, 2023 11:00:19 GMT
I absolutely LOVE it. Have to say the Gas Girls have done a great job with the away kits since they started
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Post by tommym9 on Aug 27, 2023 9:18:32 GMT
Friend was on a yellow which probably figured into why he was subbed I think you are right! Friend got a talking to, and immediately JB told Grant to get ready. Friend has not played in a while. I was particularly impressed by Hunt. Same I was impressed by both of them! Same deal with Hunt, got booked for arguing with the ref after their second and then looked like he was losing his head before he got subbed
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Post by tommym9 on Aug 26, 2023 18:11:44 GMT
Friend was on a yellow which probably figured into why he was subbed
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Post by tommym9 on Aug 25, 2023 9:53:15 GMT
I'm going on this from the 22nd: If you want to disbelieve her, thats fine, but if she is lying, she'd have to resign so I'll give her the benefit of the doubt. Also she has no reason (I can think of) to lie. I have no reason to believe her. She is the one making a big deal of this. it's just her word. and of course if she isn't correct it will never be known. She would never be proved to be lying as she could always hold the line that she believed that it was required but was wrong. If the club came out and said we have submitted everything we needed to would you believe them? I just don't get why the greens are making such an issue of this. You make it sound like its a personal crusade, she's raising the issues on behalf of her constituents, which is her job. If the club came out and said they submitted everything, then I'd be looking for the planning department to be the source of truth, I'm sure the full facts will come out when this goes to committee in October. We're not going to agree on this, but I *hope* we're over the hump in terms of challenges to getting this stand open!
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Post by tommym9 on Aug 25, 2023 9:32:32 GMT
I'm going on this from the 22nd: If you want to disbelieve her, thats fine, but if she is lying, she'd have to resign so I'll give her the benefit of the doubt. Also she has no reason (I can think of) to lie. Why would she have to resign? Politicians lie for fun. OK, *expected* to resign, but then again ministers breaking the ministerial code are *expected* to resign and don't so...
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Post by tommym9 on Aug 25, 2023 9:28:47 GMT
It's taking longer because Rovers are (were?) missing paperwork. Yes it looks like its box ticking stuff (flood risk anyone?) but without those docs, planning can't be granted and it holds everything else up. Blaming the Greens is a handy way to deflect away from the huge balls up this has been from the club. Now we've started building, my hope is all that other stuff is a formality and this will sail through the planning meeting in October, but don't forget if we'd had our ducks in a row in the first place this whole thing would have been much less stressful! No it's not, that is a fallacy. The reason the approval is taking longer is because the green councillor called it in. No one knows what documents were needed or what rovers supplied. It's easy to criticise rovers but how do you know they didn't submit what was needed? No one in planning has ever said this was a problem. I think rovers have handled it well. Be ambitious and just get on with it. As for the greens, why did they get involved? I blame the greens because they seem to be meddling and not being genuine about their interest in this. As with Sainsbury's they do all they can to delay and add costs to projects. The greens choose to make it political when it didn't need to be. I'm going on this from the 22nd: If you want to disbelieve her, thats fine, but if she is lying, she'd have to resign so I'll give her the benefit of the doubt. Also she has no reason (I can think of) to lie.
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Post by tommym9 on Aug 25, 2023 9:23:31 GMT
The place where last nights Bi - election results were read out,looks a little bit familiar- inclusitvy? 99.9 percent of members and support from one demographics. Don't think Oldie was far wrong on who won the election yesterday.maybe they can learn from the football club on embracing everybody Because Labour are blazing a trail in diversity/inclusivity:
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Post by tommym9 on Aug 25, 2023 9:18:10 GMT
90% of areas the Greens took in 2021 are very very middle class like Redland Clifton Cotham clifton Down Bishopston . The other areas its making an impact are ' middle class incomers ' like Easton. I went to St . George school in the 1980s and people from Easton was Black and white working class . Now it is full of middle class trendy people . The same as the Chessels in Bedminster were house prices have rocketed to 450k plus due to the middle class moving in. Windmill Hill is a catchment area for Greens. A programme on radio 4 described this as 'mothalisation' were groups attract each other because of shared values. All the Greens do is cancel out alternative views and create a mono society based on their ideology. However ; take the socially deprived areas like Barton Hill ( my area ) : Hartcliffe : Whithyood Avonmouth Hillfields southmead etc The Greens are making no impact at all. They have no vision or understanding of social inequality and how to support people to work through a strong economy. Until they understand issues outside their box they will never break into these areas. Therefore : they come across very confident and assured. Is that because they are talking and mingling with like minded people all the time ?. Me and you have lived *very* similar lives! I went to Speedwell School in the 90s and I've seen the gentrification of places like Redfield, Easton, I moved to the Chessels and now I live in Windmill Hill! I agree the Greens have a problem attracting working class voters, this for me is down to their portrayal in the media more than their policies, because actually if you have a look, things like rent controls, the living wage, banning 0 hours contracts, taxing the richest more, etc would all hugely benefit those on lower incomes! "All the Greens do is cancel out alternative views and create a mono society based on their ideology." is exactly what I'm on about
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Post by tommym9 on Aug 25, 2023 9:10:20 GMT
Okay. As I said before: I'm not saying that the stand shouldn't be built, only that Bristol Rovers applied for planning permission way too late to get it in time, and apparently have decided to just say screw it and build the stand without planning permission, in the assumption that they will get retroactive permission. So I have no idea what you're providing evidence for. btw, afaik, councillors are meant to consider the application in isolation and aren't meant to look at the behaviour of the club. So this looks like a fait accompli. Yes, people living next to a stadium should expect crowd noise and improvements in the ground, but I don't think any of the neighbours was expecting this level of disrespect of planning process laws from Bristol Rovers. I'm struggling to see what your point is. You seem very duplicitous in what you are saying. Why do you care so much about the stand being built? Do you care about the stand being built? If so what are your motives? What are your motives of coming on a supporters forum to effectively pick a fight? Why would you do that? I don't understand why you are saying about timescales. No one can know this until plans are submitted and Rovers submitted it as early as they could. The only reason it's taking longer is because the green councillor called it in. Of course the councillors should just consider the facts. Not how someone is feeling a bit upset. Why should the club's (perceived by you) behavior affect the application? What do you mean by disrespect of the planning process laws? What laws have been broken? What is the 'level of disrespect'? Is there an acceptable level of disrespect in your eyes? I'm pretty sure the neighbours wouldn't have had any expectations in this regard. When rovers have submitted plans before the neighbours of the ground have done everything in their powers to delay and hold up any proposed development at the mem. These previous delays have caused much cost and ultimate project failure for rovers. The costs could have easily seen rovers go bust. So why on earth would we wait and show 'respect' for the neighbours. If we did they would try every trick in the book to stop it. Once it's built it's a lot harder to argue about the impacts when it is shown not to impact anything. In conclusion it seems your main problem is the fact rovers have gone ahead and just built the stand but you have no problem with the new stand. So your only grievance is you don't like the way rovers have handled the process. It seems strange you would come on this forum to raise this though or it be such a big issue for you. It's taking longer because Rovers are (were?) missing paperwork. Yes it looks like its box ticking stuff (flood risk anyone?) but without those docs, planning can't be granted and it holds everything else up. Blaming the Greens is a handy way to deflect away from the huge balls up this has been from the club. Now we've started building, my hope is all that other stuff is a formality and this will sail through the planning meeting in October, but don't forget if we'd had our ducks in a row in the first place this whole thing would have been much less stressful!
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Post by tommym9 on Aug 24, 2023 12:22:37 GMT
Done
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Post by tommym9 on Aug 23, 2023 10:34:52 GMT
Took me ages to figure this one out! How do you link ticketing accounts? I cant see anywhere where my membership number is (nor my old mans) and when I search by name I can't find him? Your membership number is the username you use to sign in on the ticketing site: www.eticketing.co.uk/bristolrovers/To get your old mans, its printed on his season card (or if he doesn't have an ST, then the site will generate him one when he creates an account). If you then go to: www.eticketing.co.uk/bristolrovers/MyAccount/MyNetwork and in the top right click 'Add members' you should then be able to find him (number or name) and add him to your network. Its all a bit complicated, but its a one and done job! p.s he will need his own account first, so you might need to get him to register (or do it with his email address, if hes anything like my parents!) basically anyone you want to buy tickets for has to have their own account
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Post by tommym9 on Aug 23, 2023 10:08:35 GMT
I paired my accounts but still couldn’t get the two tickets together- caused a big old family row so gave up. Will be IFollow for me … Never had a problem if you just put the number of tickets required before you search it should automatically activate the sit together option. Press which section you want to sit in and the tickets should be together. Took me ages to figure this one out!
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Post by tommym9 on Aug 22, 2023 22:11:28 GMT
Those two things aren't mutually exclusive. She's been saying all along that the application has been missing paperwork (on twitter she says she confirmed this is still the case yesterday with the planning officer) but supports the application as long as the club sorts it's life out. Pretty sure that wasn't the impression most of us got when we read her referral letter: ": A many number of issues have been raised to me about this application. Least of all that the club seem to have forged ahead without planning permission. This is a large proposed stand which will impose on the residential area. The contractors so far have shown no regard for safety of the site, poor community engagement, getting the correct paperwork in order, removing trees and bushes without an EIA, no traffic plan. There is great concern that the stand would be built without proper care and attention based on how the contractors have operated so far. There are separate and material concerns about: 1. Impact on the immediate residents in terms of noise, blocking light and disruption 2. Safety/fire safety 3. Additional traffic pressures. 4. Flood risk" Para's 1 & 3 give the impression she was objecting to the stand being built Para 4 - calling for a needless report in order to delay pp being granted As an elected politician she's raising what her constituents have raised with her. If it's bollocks (which it looks like) the planning department will happily say there is no problem, she's done her job, and everyone gets on with thier lives
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Post by tommym9 on Aug 22, 2023 20:39:20 GMT
Cllr Edwards comes across as a bit two faced based on her reported comments. One minute she says she supports the new stand and the next minute she says more paperwork is needed and she wants to protect the club. Sorry Cllr Edwards the City of Bristol needs to be protected from you and your Greens. I suspect the council officers know that the Labour and Tory councillors support the planned new stand backed up by the Mayor's office. It seems to me that Cllr Edwards has dug a hole for herself and she's trying get herself out of it. The way the Greens and their fellow travellers have approached our planning application has been an eye opener. Their arrogance knows no bounds. Those two things aren't mutually exclusive. She's been saying all along that the application has been missing paperwork (on twitter she says she confirmed this is still the case yesterday with the planning officer) but supports the application as long as the club sorts it's life out.
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Post by tommym9 on Aug 22, 2023 11:17:13 GMT
Risky if we haven't got PP still. Thought a decision was coming in October?
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Post by tommym9 on Aug 21, 2023 10:38:56 GMT
Selfishly hoping for a postponement as I can't do the Saturday Got my ticket either way so if it goes ahead on the 9th there will be at least one ticket up for sale on here 👍
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Post by tommym9 on Aug 18, 2023 17:43:25 GMT
Why are the Greens getting upset about flood risk. If Edwards wanted to know what a Bristol flood is like she's looking in the wrong place. I remember the Great Flood of 1968 when Gloucester Road turned into a river for several hours and most of the water ended up in Cheltenham Road. Besides that Bedminster was badly hit so if she's worried about flooding in Bristol she needs to look elsewhere. Despite the large volumes of water I don't remember Alton Road being flooded? But in 1968 we obviously had serious problems with global warming. Unfortunately people tragically lost their lives when bridges were washed away in Keynsham and Pensford. Standard document that needs to be submitted. Nothing to do with her, but a bit of red tape the application needs.
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Post by tommym9 on Aug 18, 2023 16:23:19 GMT
Looks like BCC is still waiting on some paperwork from the club:
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Post by tommym9 on Aug 17, 2023 13:23:33 GMT
Yes, thanks. I have experienced the internet before. People seem far more skeptical to strangers who acknowledge their biases, than to people they know, who are assumed to be 'neutral'. I don't think you're experiencing the panicked and deeply upset calls she's getting from people who live near the stadium, who suddenly have heavy machinery operating right next to their properties, and in their street. In a strange coincidence, one of the few things I have done for the Green party (I have a terrible chronic pain problem so leaving the house is sometimes hard) is door knocking next to Bristol Rovers. Many people mentioned that the replacing of the previous terrible PA, with one that plays music really loudly, really annoyed them. Yes living next to a football stand you expect football crowd noises, but suddenly also having a giant PA playing music isn't going to make the neighbours happy. My understanding is that part of the aim of the consultation process is to figure out "has the person or business submitting this planning application actually been a good neighbour or not?" and from that figure out how strict the approval needs to be. With respect to all your complainants, the Mem has been there since the war and used as a noisy sporting facility for football and rugby and I very much doubt any complainant has lived next to the Mem since the war. Stadiums aren’t exclusively used for sporting events, but are now multi use. For reference, look at every other 91 clubs in the EFL and see what stadiums are used for. Now, if you purchase a house or rent next to a sporting facility, the logical side of one’s brain must weigh up the impact that might have when the stadium is in use. Quite simply, if you don’t want that kind of interference, don’t live in that area. To move next to a sporting arena (of which there are 2 in the local area) and then complain about its use has to be right up there on the *wittery scale. As I’ve said previously, it is the councils decision whether there needs to be a public consultation when considering the planning application, not the FCs when making the application, so calling it in on that basis is incorrect. If the council had followed their own 8 and 13 week statutory processes, we would be much further along than we currently are. Conversely if the club had consulted with local residents first, gotten PP granted before pulling down the existing tent, taken into account the BCC planning backlog, etc, we would be much further on than we currently are. From what I've seen of the residents complaints, yes some are grumbles about the ground being used, which I 100% agree with you, move in next door to a stadium, then expect it to be noisy. However some of the other complaints are valid (imo), work starting early is a good example, I'd be fuming if a building site sprung up next to my window starting work at the crack of dawn without me having any prior notice or a chance to maybe suggest a more sociable start time on site. All this green bashing has lost site of the fact that the club have made a right pigs ear of this whole thing. I don't take any pleasure in saying that!
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Post by tommym9 on Aug 16, 2023 15:56:34 GMT
Poor kiddie, feel like L2 was his level and he'd settled in so well there
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