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Post by gashead1981 on Aug 26, 2023 17:49:38 GMT
I think JB has built a decent squad but his loyalty to certain players is costing us points.
Finley:
No longer good enough to be first name on the team sheet and certainly not good enough to be a regular starter in a team whose ambitions are top 6. He’s no longer the box to box terrier he once was and his decision making is sometimes 5 seconds behind play slowing down the tempo or missing opportunities on the counter attack.
I cannot see how when you have a fit Bogarde and now Woods in the building how he would start in front of these 2 and yet today, as in other games, he starts.
Grant:
I know this lad needs minutes and JB sees a player in him but this rotational sub for whoever is at LB to bring JG in is a waste of a sub more often than not.
Friend today was excellent, especially going forward, and I saw nothing in him tiring or if you were going to make a sacrificial sub, at least make it to bring on another attacking player.
Whomever Grant has replaced, whether it’s Gordon or Friend has just killed any momentum down that side, especially as he constantly needs to come inside onto his right foot.
Collins:
He’s had a really poor start and his constant switching around is hurting the attacking outlet of our game. I think having him as a number 10 suits us best with a proper striker for him to play off. Certainly his LW play is not up to scratch and when he needs to be subbed, bring him off!
Todays result was a massive reflection on what he is doing with these 2 players specifically and it’s hampering both bookends of the game.
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Post by miltongas on Aug 26, 2023 17:52:30 GMT
Was that you who made the same points on Radio Bris. I agree with the Finley comments, but a fit Grant is a quality player.
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Post by gashead1981 on Aug 26, 2023 17:54:04 GMT
Was that you who made the same points on Radio Bris. I agree with the Finley comments, but a fit Grant is a quality player. It was mate. I don’t disagree that a fit Grant is a decent player. But the rotation to sub him in at 60 mins just to get him minutes is a false positive, especially when we’re losing and Grant is miles off the pace currently. |
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Post by playtowin on Aug 26, 2023 18:00:23 GMT
After previous performances i would have dropped Finley...but he had his best game today.
Whether thats enough is debatable.
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Post by bobbyjones on Aug 26, 2023 18:02:09 GMT
No one had a good game
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Post by Somersetgas on Aug 26, 2023 18:05:36 GMT
I think JB has built a decent squad but his loyalty to certain players is costing us points. Finley: No longer good enough to be first name on the team sheet and certainly not good enough to be a regular starter in a team whose ambitions are top 6. He’s no longer the box to box terrier he once was and his decision making is sometimes 5 seconds behind play slowing down the tempo or missing opportunities on the counter attack. I cannot see how when you have a fit Bogarde and now Woods in the building how he would start in front of these 2 and yet today, as in other games, he starts. Grant: I know this lad needs minutes and JB sees a player in him but this rotational sub for whoever is at LB to bring JG in is a waste of a sub more often than not. Friend today was excellent, especially going forward, and I saw nothing in him tiring or if you were going to make a sacrificial sub, at least make it to bring on another attacking player. Whomever Grant has replaced, whether it’s Gordon or Friend has just killed any momentum down that side, especially as he constantly needs to come inside onto his right foot. Collins: He’s had a really poor start and his constant switching around is hurting the attacking outlet of our game. I think having him as a number 10 suits us best with a proper striker for him to play off. Certainly his LW play is not up to scratch and when he needs to be subbed, bring him off! Todays result was a massive reflection on what he is doing with these 2 players specifically and it’s hampering both bookends of the game. Very well put and I totally agree on every point, how Finley could start ahead of Bogarde and Evans today. |
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Post by Marshy on Aug 26, 2023 18:06:50 GMT
Absolute rubbish how can you say that? The south stand steelwork is looking really good 👍 |
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Post by gas2 on Aug 26, 2023 18:07:01 GMT
Not a great start again at home this season how much time will time will the new owner give Barton after all hes been guven money to improve the team !?
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Post by tommym9 on Aug 26, 2023 18:11:44 GMT
Friend was on a yellow which probably figured into why he was subbed
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Post by dudelebowski on Aug 26, 2023 18:16:57 GMT
A fit Josh Grant?
No one at Rovers has ever seen it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2023 18:20:39 GMT
I just got in and was about to create the same thread …
Spot on …
Finley is nowhere near good enough and how Bogarde didn’t start ahead of him was a mystery to me.
I think time should be called on Collins now … at least as a starter ! 18 games without a goal is simply appalling and his ability to beat a man seems to have deserted him. I wound bench him for the next game.
Thought the defence looked better today although no one picked up their player for a simple header. Friend and especially Hunt look s massive improvement.
Crama looked hesitant at times again - Sinclair added little and zGrant Ward was seriously poor .
We have the squad nearly now we need to fit the pieces based on ability not passed relations.
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Post by neilv93 on Aug 26, 2023 18:22:12 GMT
I think JB has built a decent squad but his loyalty to certain players is costing us points. Finley: No longer good enough to be first name on the team sheet and certainly not good enough to be a regular starter in a team whose ambitions are top 6. He’s no longer the box to box terrier he once was and his decision making is sometimes 5 seconds behind play slowing down the tempo or missing opportunities on the counter attack. I cannot see how when you have a fit Bogarde and now Woods in the building how he would start in front of these 2 and yet today, as in other games, he starts. Grant: I know this lad needs minutes and JB sees a player in him but this rotational sub for whoever is at LB to bring JG in is a waste of a sub more often than not. Friend today was excellent, especially going forward, and I saw nothing in him tiring or if you were going to make a sacrificial sub, at least make it to bring on another attacking player. Whomever Grant has replaced, whether it’s Gordon or Friend has just killed any momentum down that side, especially as he constantly needs to come inside onto his right foot. Collins: He’s had a really poor start and his constant switching around is hurting the attacking outlet of our game. I think having him as a number 10 suits us best with a proper striker for him to play off. Certainly his LW play is not up to scratch and when he needs to be subbed, bring him off! Todays result was a massive reflection on what he is doing with these 2 players specifically and it’s hampering both bookends of the game. Finley - I agree, I think he'll get gradually phased out of the line up now though, with Bogarde re-joining and Woods being a significant upgrade. Grant - also agree. He's clearly a JB favourite but I also just don't think he's a LB and shouldn't be continually shoe-horned in there. Collins - disagree. Poor start to the season but he's our best player and just needs to play in his best position (either behind a JCH-type striker or as the F9). Assuming we do get that JCH striker we need, I'd like to see more of: JCH SS7 Collins Vale Ward Grant Woods Friend X X Hoole Cox |
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Post by Quarters on Aug 26, 2023 18:24:30 GMT
I think JB has built a decent squad but his loyalty to certain players is costing us points. Finley: No longer good enough to be first name on the team sheet and certainly not good enough to be a regular starter in a team whose ambitions are top 6. He’s no longer the box to box terrier he once was and his decision making is sometimes 5 seconds behind play slowing down the tempo or missing opportunities on the counter attack. I cannot see how when you have a fit Bogarde and now Woods in the building how he would start in front of these 2 and yet today, as in other games, he starts. Grant: I know this lad needs minutes and JB sees a player in him but this rotational sub for whoever is at LB to bring JG in is a waste of a sub more often than not. Friend today was excellent, especially going forward, and I saw nothing in him tiring or if you were going to make a sacrificial sub, at least make it to bring on another attacking player. Whomever Grant has replaced, whether it’s Gordon or Friend has just killed any momentum down that side, especially as he constantly needs to come inside onto his right foot. Collins: He’s had a really poor start and his constant switching around is hurting the attacking outlet of our game. I think having him as a number 10 suits us best with a proper striker for him to play off. Certainly his LW play is not up to scratch and when he needs to be subbed, bring him off! Todays result was a massive reflection on what he is doing with these 2 players specifically and it’s hampering both bookends of the game. Finley - I agree, I think he'll get gradually phased out of the line up now though, with Bogarde re-joining and Woods being a significant upgrade. Grant - also agree. He's clearly a JB favourite but I also just don't think he's a LB and shouldn't be continually shoe-horned in there. Collins - disagree. Poor start to the season but he's our best player and just needs to play in his best position (either behind a JCH-type striker or as the F9). Assuming we do get that JCH striker we need, I'd like to see more of: JCH SS7 Collins Vale Grant Woods Friend X X Hoole Cox Think you are confusing your Ward and Grant |
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Post by smudge1 on Aug 26, 2023 18:27:47 GMT
Friend was on a yellow which probably figured into why he was subbed I think you are right! Friend got a talking to, and immediately JB told Grant to get ready. Friend has not played in a while. I was particularly impressed by Hunt. |
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Post by neilv93 on Aug 26, 2023 18:30:45 GMT
Finley - I agree, I think he'll get gradually phased out of the line up now though, with Bogarde re-joining and Woods being a significant upgrade. Grant - also agree. He's clearly a JB favourite but I also just don't think he's a LB and shouldn't be continually shoe-horned in there. Collins - disagree. Poor start to the season but he's our best player and just needs to play in his best position (either behind a JCH-type striker or as the F9). Assuming we do get that JCH striker we need, I'd like to see more of: JCH SS7 Collins Vale Grant Woods Friend X X Hoole Cox Think you are confusing your Ward and Grant Yep, I am indeed lol |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2023 19:08:00 GMT
Finley and ward just not good enough.rather see Bogarde and Evans there. Two players who can run with the ball rather then pass back the way they are facing
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Post by yattongas on Aug 26, 2023 19:15:30 GMT
Imo Sinclair & Finley not up to standard for a promotion chasing team.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 26, 2023 20:53:47 GMT
I thought Bogarde had a total shocker when he replaced Finley, who by recent standards had his best game for a while, what he was doing for the second goal only he can explain.
Likewise Friend was hardly setting the game alight when he was subbed off.
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Post by Qatar Gas on Aug 27, 2023 4:35:25 GMT
I am prepared to give Grant more time but he has been pretty poor when coming off the bench. He nearly cost us at Charlton giving the ball away (when they hit the post) and many others ref's would have sent him off towards the end.
Friend looks decent and adds experience, but at the moment I would rather see Gordon as the back up left back.
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Post by baggins on Aug 27, 2023 5:24:23 GMT
Agreed with the OP, what is it about Rovers that just simply can't put a decent midfield together?
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