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Post by markczgas on Mar 4, 2020 8:46:32 GMT
Rovers have known hard times before and in terms of league position worse than today, but there is a pervading sense of inertia, hopelessness and failure around the Mem and in our supporter community. Years of rudderless and disengaged leadership, deplorable communications and lack of care for supporters have taken us to this position. The unfathomable appointment of Garner is just the latest example of poor decision making on and off the pitch by a boardroom that doesn't seem to have a clue and an owner that frankly has lost interest. Woeful, in any respectable business enterprise where the shareholders could influence events they would all have gone a long time ago. Now it has come inevitably to the point where we are stuck with an imposter of a manager who is destined to lead us to new depths of despair unless action is taken quickly. I don't think Garner has lost the dressing room, I doubt he ever had it. Players can spot a fake when they see one, performances on the pitch are testimony to that. Talk of a footballing revolution at Rovers are pie in the sky and Garner certainly isn't the man to deliver it, it's simply words designed to persuade us that he needs more time. To do what, based on the evidence so far? How on earth are we going to obtain the players he says he needs based on our financial situation and how his acquisitions have fared to this point? Hardly compelling. I know some of us will argue that Garner needs more time to show what he can do, but I think great danger lies in that approach. We will probably get lucky and win a few games before the end of this season (although right now I am not sure where and how) but that is not a compelling reason to retain the manager. Next season he won't inherit a safety points blanket and we will face a relegation fight and spiral into failure. Any board with real leadership quality would grip the situation immediately, admit their terrible mistake and say goodbye to Garner. But this hapless bunch ...... So what can we do? It's football so our options as a non fan-owned club are limited, but we have to keep the pressure on the owner and the board. I am sure(?) they understand financial logic and once they see that they and the club are losing more money (attendance, season tickets) by retaining Garner than offloading him, they will act. As for the bigger problem of overall club leadership, new stadium etc, miracles can happen ..... A very loyal Gashead indeed !
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Post by markczgas on Mar 1, 2020 13:45:00 GMT
I take your point but you usually do that with 2 or 3 games to go and not 11. Who are the square pegs ? Only one I saw was Alfie and that is surely because Hare and Little are not fit rather than BG experimenting. God we miss Hare, unbelievable to say it for a lad who only played about 8 games before injury and came from Level 5, but he was a breath of fresh air. Hopefully, we will see him get some minutes soon. UTG.
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Post by markczgas on Mar 1, 2020 13:40:35 GMT
Why did he get player of the season last year ? He just edged it after it had been whittled down to a short list of one. We finished 15th not 24th.
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Post by markczgas on Mar 1, 2020 13:39:55 GMT
Sadly Ollie would be on my list of players that need to be let go at the end of the season. I would add a few more to that list, some of these players are supposed to be senior players, OC, Upson, Sercombe, Ogogo, Bennett, Rodman, THD, JCH...I would say only 2 or 3 of them have been at the races at all. JCH scores goals, people can criticise his form all they like, but the fella has kept us up 2 season on a trot. Let's be honest we haven't created any chances for the guy to score goals since December. Ogogo I can see what his game is all about, works hard, puts tackles in, break down the opposition attack, we look much stronger in the midfield when he is in it. As for the others what do they bring, the attacking players aren't attacking, the defensive players can't tackle, the creative players are not creative. You may notice I have missed Tony Craig out of the list of senior players, because in his prime most of those names couldn't lace his boots. For me still the best defender and leader we have. Our GKs behind him change every other month, the players either side of him have little to no league experience, certainly not regular league 1 experience and he has a non existent midfield in front of him. Great player in my eyes, even at 34. Sorry - crap penalty v Fleetwood, poor miss v Rotherham at 0 - 0 , another one to win it at Tranmere. He has gone downhill just as much as Upson and Rodman etc.
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Post by markczgas on Mar 1, 2020 13:36:37 GMT
Been saying this for ages, if he wasn’t from Portishead people would be calling for him to be offloaded ages ago. Must have watched him play 200+ games and I simply can’t understand what he does beyond score the occasional longshot 2 or 3 times a season. He may be a popular figure in the dressing room and does a lot for the community in an ambassadorial role, but as a captain on the pitch he contributes next to nothing. A nice lad no doubt and will always be remembered for those two seasons, but if you take away the sentiment it’s been clear to see to all that he’s not good enough and hasn’t been for a while. Why did he get player of the season last year ?
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Post by markczgas on Mar 1, 2020 13:35:11 GMT
Not going up or down, he should be looking at different options and formations from now. Playing the same team is a fruitless exercise, square pegs In round holes isn't working. I take your point but you usually do that with 2 or 3 games to go and not 11. Who are the square pegs ?
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Post by markczgas on Mar 1, 2020 13:30:32 GMT
Sercombe missed a month of footie and had no reserve game to build himself up, then had to play in those windy conditions with a team playing poorly. Cut him some slack !! I did say sorry about including him, but he was poor yesterday. They all were, but he was part of a midfield that contributed nothing. It sounded like they are all not up to it. Sercombe is up to it, and Upson was definitely up to it before Xmas. The team, with this poor run, are now lacking confidence -it's clear to see. I pray to god we see off Southend (a strong win would be very useful) and perhaps then confidence will return to our key - Kilgour, Craig, Upson, Sercombe and JCH.
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Post by markczgas on Mar 1, 2020 13:23:48 GMT
Glad I wasn’t there yesterday, I will not be renewing my season ticket next year. It has become a chore, going to the Mem. All I can see that’s happened so far, our biggest asset looks mediocre at best, and the rest of the players don’t look up for it. I don’t even see a game plan? That's a shame. We had much worse teams to watch in the noughties than this lot.
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Post by markczgas on Mar 1, 2020 13:20:34 GMT
Steve , just to let you know it was Ollie who was unlucky not to score and not Alfie - please see highlights.
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Post by markczgas on Mar 1, 2020 13:19:11 GMT
No disrespect to Shrewsbury, but how crap has a team got to be before we take 3 points off them? Our midfield are completely useless. Clarke, Upson and sorry to say, Sercombe, are just not up to it. It's like starting with 8 men. Sercombe missed a month of footie and had no reserve game to build himself up, then had to play in those windy conditions with a team playing poorly. Cut him some slack !!
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Post by markczgas on Mar 1, 2020 13:17:31 GMT
I’m pretty colour blind (about 10% of men are) so could only distinguish players by socks at distance with their backs to me, but know of others that aren’t I was with that also said it was hard, esp with sun in your eyes. Wonder if may have accounted for some of the woeful passing, on both sides tbf. Yeah when you have two crap teams dressed almost the same add in a dodgy ref and an even dodgier Lino (west stand) along with 10% of an already depressed home crowd being colour blind (as I am) I suppose in hindsight it was bound to be a bit of a damp squib 😜 why was ref dodgy ? cos we lost ?
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Post by markczgas on Mar 1, 2020 0:46:17 GMT
So it was Ollie Clarke with the header well saved in the 2nd.
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Post by markczgas on Mar 1, 2020 0:38:16 GMT
This has been my argument all along. Do I think we are utterly dreadful? Yes, today was some of the worst football I’ve seen since the Mghee/Ward/Buckle days. Do I want him sacked? No, ultimately I think it’s worth giving him another transfer window, this season is a lost cause anyway. Was hoping that Sercombe would provide some creativity on his return today but I think it will take him a few games to get up to speed. I’m in total agreement with you about Barrett and Matthews, they both can’t be any worse than our current midfielder, worth giving them a chance. Barrett needs to lose a bit of weight before he is considered again. Can't believe the same concerns were raised about his weight by Coventry fans over 2 years ago when he joined them on loan. Needs to sort it ASAP. wasn't even on the bench today - he takes up too much room apparently.
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Post by markczgas on Mar 1, 2020 0:33:09 GMT
We were terrible today - no doubt. But again horrible blustery conditions and their big goliaths at the back swarming all over our flimsy attacks. What's really worrying me is our inability to get the ball near their box to create chances. I believe it was 4 shots - with only 1 on target and 1 corner - pretty much the same as v Sunderland. we are going to score very few goals and lose plenty if something doesn't change. JCH needs a forward up there with him - 4-4 -2 or 3-5 -2. Leahy struggles as a full back - Ive noticed that THD has been on the bench the last 2 games so he must be fit - how is he not in the side ahead of Leahy ??
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Post by markczgas on Mar 1, 2020 0:22:06 GMT
Blackman 7
Kilgour 5.5 Menayese 5.5 Craig 7.5 Leahy 4.5
Upson 5 Clarke 5 Sercombe 5
Ginnelly 4.5 Clarke-Harris 5.5 Mitchell-Lawson 4.5
Subs: Abraham 4 Daly 6 Rodman -
Crowd 6 Ref 7 Shrewsbury 6
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Post by markczgas on Feb 28, 2020 18:44:45 GMT
15. It was also raised that the club does not do enough to put out good news and a suggestion was made that good news items should be put out 3 times on each forum - website, Facebook and Twitter, as it was suggested by a bloke who used to do PR that you need to do this for good news to sink in. Thanks for taking the trouble to post.Will be interested to hear the Good News. you've missed one bit of good news already this week - see Positive News thread. and yes he is a really good prospect !
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Post by markczgas on Feb 28, 2020 11:03:17 GMT
I'm still getting a season ticket - cos I can see he's trying to get footballers into the club and play a better brand of football. Trying and doing are very different things though. If I was in Bristol, I think I'd get a season ticket in 99% of cases tbh. I meant trying cos some are on loan - but may become available after their loans. UTG.
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Post by markczgas on Feb 28, 2020 9:54:45 GMT
....................you can dance if you want to !
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Post by markczgas on Feb 28, 2020 9:54:18 GMT
Agree with all of this apart from the settling with a point. With Sunderland, Ipswich & Peterborough coming up we have to win this game otherwise we'll have to wait another month to have a chance to win at home. If Ben wants to be here next season then he has to pick up points against Shrewsbury, Southend & Rochdale A point each from those three may be enough to keep Rovers up, but if that is all it takes to keep BG in a job they won't sell a season ticket. I'm still getting a season ticket - cos I can see he's trying to get footballers into the club and play a better brand of football.
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Post by markczgas on Feb 27, 2020 9:24:33 GMT
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