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Post by inee on May 7, 2020 2:27:02 GMT
If the rovers wasn't there I would be absolutely devastated, the club and the gas family were there for me n wend when the bottom fell out of our world and to be honest it would probably finish us off, as it would be just so feckin painful, damn I'm getting depressed just thinking about it
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Post by inee on May 7, 2020 2:14:25 GMT
More very grim news today. The testing target is getting embarrassing and the classic moment in Parliament this afternoon. Johnson says it's too early to make international comparisons, at which point Starmer holds up a slide of international comparisons the Government have been presenting for weeks at their daily briefing. I did laugh. đ I've heard that Starmer wiped the floor with Boris in parliament today, will have to give it a watch later. Boris is good at his slogans and acting the big man when he has a majority of hundreds behind him - but 1v1 in a quiet room, the bloke doesn't stand a chance. Sounds like that's already been shown on the first coming together of the 2. But yet again we're not getting anywhere near the 100k. Now, whilst I'll accept it's only on facebook - I've seen a couple of posts from friends saying that a car park near their house was set up for testing on the 30th April and since then has been empty. The testing figures are frankly not good enough. Johnson says "that capacity currently exceeds demand" - we all know what a load of tripe that is. Expand your testing then ffs, if that really is this case. We haven't tested all NHS frontline workers yet, never mind key workers - so how can he say "that capacity currently exceeds demand"?! We are in no way ready to exit this lockdown either. We had 600 deaths again today and the confirmed numbers aren't dropping. I fear we'll get a much, much worse 2nd spike - just as the spanish flu did. The 2nd wave of the Spanish Flu killed about 5x more at least than the first wave. The third wave was also much more deadly. Was this in Bristol as i read that lulsgate was set up for testing along with another testing area somewhere else in Bristol, apparently people had mixed feeling about the testing station at lulsgate, but the other testing station was empty like a ghost town. I'm sure it was on the post website. Dint they say that there wasn't a full take up of the tests offered to nhs staff, so opened them up to key workers, I've heard you can do the test at home and it has to be collected within the hour of receipt. not sure how you would go about getting the home tests though, maybe someone on here knows
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Post by inee on May 7, 2020 2:05:28 GMT
I got a funny feeling that most of the docs you want in addition to any form of inquiry, will probably end up being stamped 100 years till it can be read by the general public. Without getting too political it matters not whose in control at any given time will ultimately f**k up in a major way then try to hide it. should they do it that way nope, i think those wanting transparency will get a muted opaque response, some say we locked down too late, others say it was the right thing to do as it appears many have had it and got over it, and therein lies the problem, theres no data for those who have had it and got over it without treatment, as i said earlier in the thread, no matter what gets done or what set of data they use it will not be accurate as governments always have a way to massage data I agree that is the general way of things. But should we sit back like sheep and accept crap just because it's always been crap? You are spot on about the politics of it, it doesn't matter which colour are in power, they always end up doing the same thing. But putting that truism to one side surely, given the death toll we not have a right to know? Even if there were zero further deaths? Johnson has just featured on PMQs. There was a shiny light of honesty when questioned why they dropped, Test, Track and Trace so early on he admitted it was because we did not have the facilities to make this meaningful. Given they have created this capacity,in what 5 weeks,(well done) the question has to be asked why this capacity was not created after the pandemic simulation exercise in 2015/16? We cannot know now how many lives that would have saved, but we can draw a comparison with South Korea who had the capacity. Look at their death rates. Stark by comparison. So it comes down to spending decisions, a clear choice. Given the performance of South Korea it's hard not to draw the conclusion that the lack of investment into health care capacity had caused the death of thousands of people. Similarly Social Care, a shambles if a public health system, asking people on minimum wage to take care of our family members and councils near breaking point because of lack of central government financial support. Should we just sit back and let this carry on? Clap out of our windows and doorways to make us feel better? Watch the plethora of War Time Movies to show the "bulldog spirit". Or do we hold this lot to account for what they have done. Of course we should know, but again i firmly believe that data will be manipulated to fit the answer most people want to hear, i mentioned earlier in this thread, that no one will know the true figures of the dead. The reason being firstly the way the cause of death was recorded , as we have seen mainly only people who died in hospital was recorded, the harsh reality is that more people will be found dead as they live alone. I also read somewhere and mentioned that some of the people who have got over the virus ,will show up as positive if tested again (same as those cured of syphilis ) , so from that perspective how does that affect the figures are they added twice for example, I've had a quick think back and was thinking there a lot of colds or flu going round as well as a lot of different 24 or 48 hour bugs, i may be way off here but i suspect people visited their gp and got the standard oh its the flu as the symptoms are similar. As regards the testing i mentioned earlier in this thread , that a uk company was selling testing kits abroad as we didn't have the capacity for testing, which Boris has now admitted too. Apparently we have a warehouse full of stuff in case something like this happens ( i posted a link to an article about that a few pages back). Hancock said something along the lines of we had to build up a logistics chain to deliver the stuff, because the company looking after the supplies was bought out ,the stockpiles had drugs for the flu, but again you can't stockpile drugs that don't exist. Of course the government should be held accountable and so should others who broke the isolation, and also the source of this fecking virus should be held accountable too sorry fer the jumbled up post but i need to try n get some sleep, no fun getting a co8uple of hours at night
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Post by inee on May 6, 2020 12:06:49 GMT
Johnson is not being a jackass. Government's do not usually reveal advice given in confidence. Look at the what happened over legal advice given to the government over May's shoddy deal. Better still, look at what Labour did under Blair with the advice given to them by the Intelligence Service regarding WMD's in Iraq ! I think your examples prove the point. If the (corrupted) advice given to Blair had been in the public domain it could have been challenged...perhaps avoiding the invasion of Iraq. There is an argument for a lack of transparency when it comes to national security, but I feel that's a blanket to hide things from the public. In the case of this health emergency there are no such concerns. For the life of me I do not understand why they do not disclose the full unredacted transcripts. Unless of course it paints their decision making in a poor light. I got a funny feeling that most of the docs you want in addition to any form of inquiry, will probably end up being stamped 100 years till it can be read by the general public. Without getting too political it matters not whose in control at any given time will ultimately f**k up in a major way then try to hide it. should they do it that way nope, i think those wanting transparency will get a muted opaque response, some say we locked down too late, others say it was the right thing to do as it appears many have had it and got over it, and therein lies the problem, theres no data for those who have had it and got over it without treatment, as i said earlier in the thread, no matter what gets done or what set of data they use it will not be accurate as governments always have a way to massage data
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Post by inee on May 6, 2020 11:58:08 GMT
Cheers nobs i did that now i gotta sign a register or something, oh i was early
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Post by inee on May 5, 2020 22:50:42 GMT
the threesome scene you could tell which one was her brother
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Post by inee on May 5, 2020 22:26:08 GMT
Anyone else have any, however slight, concerns about giving the Government the ability to track your movements? A non party political question. People are tracked pretty much 24/7 in this country have been for years, These days it's so easy to find out where people have been, due to the sheer amount of surveillance carried out, if you've got anything to worry about ,chances are your being tracked already via phone, cash machines, cctv and other means. Going back a while i mentioned that gchq built their own tower to tap into the phone data. Heres one for people who use google simply go to (takeaway google com) ,sign in with your google id. Follow the instructions on screen, you need to tick all the boxes for all of your data, then wait as google will zip up all your data and send you a download link.
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Post by inee on Apr 29, 2020 22:30:51 GMT
RIP Stella
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Post by inee on Apr 28, 2020 12:55:02 GMT
I lost hope for the true numbers when it was announced that even if the coronas got you it dint have to be recorder as thet, so depending on where you live the numbers could be either sort of correct or extreemly low.
Still it could be worse you could be injecting yourself with disinfectant, only in America, if a country could win the Darwin award
But Donald takes no responsibility for that ,now there is an A grade cockđ When i heard that im sorry but i was giggling like a naughty schoolboy. I had to check the date, as i said usa for a darwin award ,on the bright side looks like nasa have a large pool of people to pick from for the manned flight to mars
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Post by inee on Apr 28, 2020 10:54:02 GMT
Interesting what doesn't get reported on the BBC,lots of stuff about testing in Germany and how badly we compare,no problem with that but what about some comparators with other Countries I asked my Belgium friend why deaths per capita are higher than anywhere else and here's the answer. They count every death from whatever situation care homes,community etc because they have never had anywhere near enough tests. This has apparently not caused a media storm as it's accepted as that's just the way it is. I am not saying it's ok just never features in our media when they get the big stick out,I do wish we could have a balance of facts/evidence rather than picking Countries that suit whatever narrative they wish to portray. I lost hope for the true numbers when it was announced that even if the coronas got you it dint have to be recorder as thet, so depending on where you live the numbers could be either sort of correct or extreemly low.
Still it could be worse you could be injecting yourself with disinfectant, only in America, if a country could win the Darwin award
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Post by inee on Apr 28, 2020 10:48:52 GMT
Don't worry about it. A lot worse gets said on here, I think most of us got what you were trying to say. Probably, but just a bit of a cock of saying it as usual! Nah no cocks involved if there had been balders would be knocking on your door
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Post by inee on Apr 28, 2020 10:46:30 GMT
i was goung of what me nan told me, she used to say she kept certain stuff in her bag,so it was there if she had to shelter, the point i was trying to make was back then they had free movement(not during raids etc, not only that but they had face to facee contacts with others. Not easy for a lot of people, if i had to watch tv for more than an hour or so in bursts,i would be climbing the walls,as i said in a previous post many people are sufferring due to not seeing people on a day to day basis, to be fair it depends on how your brains wired. Theres people on here who are showing signs of strees by being isolated but please they arn't wankers, just ordinary folk who just can't cope,yes there are some wankers who just dont give a feck about others but theres also a lot of people suffering mentally over this situation and it aint their fault. Not having a pop but some suffering will read these posts and take the work w**ker to heart.
Nobody is going to deny that their will be some whose mental health will be adversely affected by a long period of isolated lockdown. But thankfully it's not the vast majority. I hope the numbers are low, it's unfortunantely one of those things that tends not to show until it's to late.
Yes i know i'm banging the mental health drum ,so hopefully anyone showing signs can get help quickly, as the earlier it identified the more chance there is of that person getting targeted help to recover, it can affect anyone. I'm just gunna hide me soapbox as me coffees arrived
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Post by inee on Apr 28, 2020 10:37:42 GMT
i was goung of what me nan told me, she used to say she kept certain stuff in her bag,so it was there if she had to shelter, the point i was trying to make was back then they had free movement(not during raids etc, not only that but they had face to facee contacts with others. Not easy for a lot of people, if i had to watch tv for more than an hour or so in bursts,i would be climbing the walls,as i said in a previous post many people are sufferring due to not seeing people on a day to day basis, to be fair it depends on how your brains wired. Theres people on here who are showing signs of strees by being isolated but please they arn't wankers, just ordinary folk who just can't cope,yes there are some wankers who just dont give a feck about others but theres also a lot of people suffering mentally over this situation and it aint their fault. Not having a pop but some suffering will read these posts and take the work w**ker to heart.
Inee, I donât mean people on here? I mean the ones who drive 200 miles from London to go to holiday homes or the idiots having bbqâs in parks or on the beach, thereâs just no need of sh**e like that! Twernt a dig, was just saying it may be taken the wrong way not intentionally but more due to peoples minds only allowing them to work in black n white as in either yes/ no.
One thing that does grate a tad is most of those meeting in groups and avoiding distance recommendations, seem to infect others but get away with it themselves.
Just a shame that those types, you know the i'm alright jacks, arn't neck shot what is it now i think a round is still only pennies,
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Post by inee on Apr 28, 2020 10:00:19 GMT
Me. I was talking about my mother's experience as she told it my grandkids. So yes, that was realtime. I hope that clarifies the point. Indeed, I heard lots of stories about the war from my parents but strangely enough my dad would never talk about how he lost his leg? Mum finally told me when I was about 15 or 16, he had it blown off by a mortar bomb at Dunkirk he was 19. Tough times now but my god what must have it been like then! Brave men & women indeed and great times of hardship, letâs face it all we have to do is sit on arses and watch tv some wankers canât even do that shocking!i was goung of what me nan told me, she used to say she kept certain stuff in her bag,so it was there if she had to shelter, the point i was trying to make was back then they had free movement(not during raids etc, not only that but they had face to facee contacts with others. Not easy for a lot of people, if i had to watch tv for more than an hour or so in bursts,i would be climbing the walls,as i said in a previous post many people are sufferring due to not seeing people on a day to day basis, to be fair it depends on how your brains wired. Theres people on here who are showing signs of strees by being isolated but please they arn't wankers, just ordinary folk who just can't cope,yes there are some wankers who just dont give a feck about others but theres also a lot of people suffering mentally over this situation and it aint their fault. Not having a pop but some suffering will read these posts and take the work w**ker to heart.
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Post by inee on Apr 27, 2020 15:31:26 GMT
The bog roll situation is still not very good over here. To see some in the shops is as rare as rockin horse sh1t! Same for kitchen roll. If this carries on much longer I will have to start looking on koalas bloody bog roll thieves
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Post by inee on Apr 27, 2020 14:54:30 GMT
To be honest, I do wonder what people are moaning about. A couple of years ago my grandkids were over from the States. They visited my mother who is still alive. They were enthralled as she told them stories of her childhood and being bombed in WW2 in Bristol. And we are morning because we are cooped up for a couple of months, full fridges, 24 hour TV....oh the strain Unfortunantely not everyone can cope with isolation, I love being isolated it doesn't bother me one bit, however when this is all over i will be back to square one in that i hate the majority of people and dread going out, and have to have someone with me to protect not only me but others around me. Others are totally oposite in that they can't stand being cooped up ,and not seeing others they need the social interactions that some don't need. Does this mean some of us are better than othe, some moan for the sake of it nope it just means we are differant who react differently to whats ging on around us. Not everyone on here will have the luxury of a full fridge not now not even in so called normal times, we stuggle and quite litterally run out of food before we can get out to get some because it take days of planning to leave the house, not having a pop just trying to give you a view of what it's like for some others , Off course some are ok with it, others can't deal with the isolation and dare i say lonleyness of the times we are forced into. We have a tv but to be totaly honest it's 22.5 hours of absolute drivel with maybe an hour n alf watchable programs.
Was thinking of a story my nan used to tell of a dog fight over victoria park.( i used to say even the bloody germans hated the teds) which got me a smart clip round the ears. Back then people had an exit strategy as in they were prepared to shift the entire family to a shelter surrounded by others in the same boat but also had the freedom to roam during the day,and interactions with others. This time round it's the total opposite people isolated, death a cough or touch away. (brain just started to reword a song you know war childeren is just a cough away, i know sorry but i have a gallows humour). So many can't cope with the isolation, some love the isolation, others don't mind either way. But no matter which type of person we are, one thing that unites us in these times (is not class or ideoligogly, colour creed or roots the only thing that unites us is DR Martens boots, sorry about the song), is knowing that if we need help or someone to chat too or rant at , is our wonderful Gas family
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Post by inee on Apr 27, 2020 13:57:00 GMT
Back at the Children's hospital again, I've been speaking with the staff. They are coping at the moment due to not having so many patients. That isn't actually good news and in itself is worrying, from an inpatient perspective, it means there are many seriously ill children not coming in who really should be. When the lockdown is eased, they expect a lot of ill children to come in and overwhelm the system and some will be more sick than they otherwise would be. They worry about numbers and severity. Stu Me n wend sending you n family good wishes, taint easy is it, As to your other post, without locking people up, it's difficult to get the homeless tottaly off the streets, some will feel safer where they are. I don't envy those who have been tasked to get everyone into one form of accomidation or other,
Staysafe n well
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Post by inee on Apr 27, 2020 13:51:53 GMT
To be honest, I do wonder what people are moaning about. A couple of years ago my grandkids were over from the States. They visited my mother who is still alive. They were enthralled as she told them stories of her childhood and being bombed in WW2 in Bristol. And we are morning because we are cooped up for a couple of months, full fridges, 24 hour TV....oh the strain If you are easily pacified by TV then I guess it could work for you, sadly I think most of us are finding out that there is more to life than TV and that we are, by our very nature, social animals whether by design or by habit that is hard to say but given that we have lasted as long as we have as a species by co-operation it suggests that we are much better off with human contact. Indeed the very worst form of punish that we can give our prisoners is the clichĂ© âmonth in solitaryâ and whilst I do have the free will to leave the house and go to the shops I donât get the chance to have a meaningful conversation face to face with a friend so in terms of actual social interaction it does feel like solitary confinement in a sense. Sorry, but no amount of TV can replace that human contact and probably for very good reason or e would die out as a species if that wasnât a core part of the human condition. Your doing well fella, I have the opposite issues to you, so can understand how this affects you, you are doing a good thing, what i mean by that is you know how this affects you mentally and stay in unlike others you mention who still wont keep away from friends etc.
Although you won't or can't accept it you are coping more than you realise, you could pm me a alnd line number if you need to have a chat, or try the samaritans, They are absolutely brilliant at listening without jjudging people. I know it's not the same but can you skpe a freind or close family member as at least you can see the person you are talking to this may or may not help. Remember if you need to rant there are many on here who will listen and hopefully provide some sort of relief even if its only for a short time. Not talking down to you or any one else i will always try n suggest people who are suffering try n get that mokey off your back
Stay well
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Post by inee on Apr 23, 2020 19:04:16 GMT
So my lovely wife went shopping this afternoon and on the way out she piped up âanything you need thatâs not on the list?â I replied âaye, thereâs this ked on gas chat goes on aboot this Ghost chilli sauce, sees if yas can get some fer meâ (proper govan an all like). So fair play she comes back with the stuff. Fock me Jock itâs hot, Iâm gonna be defacating through the eye of a needle in the morning pal. Highly recommended troops as Jock would say. If you would have asked i would have said don't try it, before lad got recalled he bought some crisps ghost chilli favoured ,they burn on the way in all round the middle then double burned the exit
If your ever go in st nichs market they sell bottled chilli sause feckin evil stuff
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Post by inee on Apr 23, 2020 18:58:20 GMT
So my lovely wife went shopping this afternoon and on the way out she piped up âanything you need thatâs not on the list?â I replied âaye, thereâs this ked on gas chat goes on aboot this Ghost chilli sauce, sees if yas can get some fer meâ (proper govan an all like). So fair play she comes back with the stuff. Fock me Jock itâs hot, Iâm gonna be defacating through the eye of a needle in the morning pal. Highly recommended troops as Jock would say. Isnât âabootâ Geordie? Nah tis on me foot
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