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Post by LJG on Aug 28, 2021 18:32:33 GMT
Is it? Why? You would rather we sign the next Kyle Bennett and Tom Nicholls than no one? It is with ref to the older players already training with the squad as "guests". They would not get 3 or 4 year contracts would they ? You can't seriously believe that ? They would get one year deals perhaps even pay if you play deals. So potentially they would be better than nobody. As nobody ,inevitably leads to 16-18 year olds having to play during injury crises . Followed by internet threads about the terrible squad and why didnt we sign "somebody"...ah the fabled somebody. So veterans might be first or second choice ,but they are a choice as opposed to nobody. 🙂 I don't really understand what you're saying.
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Post by LJG on Aug 28, 2021 11:58:26 GMT
10 weeks on the training didn't make much difference last season. You must have a very sore neck looking too far back my friend. It’s really not good for me to do that and so I don’t. Happy forward thinking is what I do - feel so much better for it. Try it. Just to look back for a few seconds.,It was a different time with players who were not mentally talented enough. We now many new players to get excited about. The future is where I look. You're a contradiction, Rich. Those mentally untalented players all play in a higher league than us now.
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Post by LJG on Aug 28, 2021 9:00:03 GMT
Let's hope we see a reaction from last weeks pathetic embarrassment. We have to start winning at places like this no excuses.So you're saying Joey won't be doing the post match interview then?
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Post by LJG on Aug 28, 2021 8:59:06 GMT
I certainly hope for a win here. I feel this team, primarily Joey players, will want to bounce back with a performance to reward Joey for his confidence in them. A week on the training ground will have made a huge difference. We have some good players who on their day can cause problems for any team. Today could well be the day when we start are run to climb the table. Our goal is promotion. We are still only 3 points away from the playoffs. The dream is still alive. This team will soon have a run of victories that will take us to within a few points of automatic place. Today this team will step up and show their winning mentality. A good team performance, conceding no goals and winning 1-0 will be enough for me. It’s been a tough week waiting for squad improvements. A 2-0 victory would be perfect. I may be a dreamer but I’m not the only one. Bring it on. Happy travelling gasheads. 10 weeks on the training didn't make much difference last season.
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Post by LJG on Aug 28, 2021 8:54:04 GMT
Errr GC didn’t seem to have a problem bringing in JCH. Pretty poor example. JCH was a last second signing of a striker with a poor record, who 90% of the fanbase complained about. IMO we got lucky with him. If we sign a striker with a similar record on the 31st, there will be meltdowns all over the place Not that bad an example - JCH scored 24 in 42 for us in the league, went on to be Lg 1 top scorer and now plays in the Championship. So as a counter to the point that 4 managers have struggled to identify and sign good players the fact GC brought in JCH is a pretty good example. Another example of GC's "luck". He must have been the "luckiest" football manager in the history of the world with all the things that get attributed to "luck" on his record.
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Post by LJG on Aug 28, 2021 8:48:01 GMT
I didn't realise that JB still hadn't won an away game yet since his arrival. Even Tisdale won 2 away games in his short time with the same bunch of players. They weren't his playe ... oh ... I see your point.
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Post by LJG on Aug 28, 2021 8:36:19 GMT
A seasons loan will do him good if he gets regular first team games. As for the elder statesmen that are said to be training with rovers. Didnt we have an older pro training last season who signed for another club eventually. I guess having a handful of older player's on hand will be useful if it turns out the right signings cant be made. They can step in to fill the gap short term. Better than letting the window close with no new players.Is it? Why? You would rather we sign the next Kyle Bennett and Tom Nicholls than no one?
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Post by LJG on Aug 27, 2021 17:51:59 GMT
Let's see how he performs this season, personally I can't see him scoring more than 10 league goals, unless he was a total fraud under PT/JB and just kept falling over so he wouldn't score, which does seem unlikely. So if you're wrong about him it must be coz he's duplicitous? Couldn't it be simply that he was half-decent but in a mediocre team that was badly managed? Libelous comments from a Barton hating ... er... ex mod!
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Post by LJG on Aug 27, 2021 11:15:24 GMT
Wycombe out performed to get promotion and to be honest they probably wouldn’t have made the playoffs without COVID. All the players that have left us will not be missed, it’s just questionable if their replacements are any betterAnd if they're not ... they will be missed?
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Post by LJG on Aug 27, 2021 10:44:02 GMT
Billy Kee has retired from football He plays for Coalville Town now ... Hit 6 out of 13 last year. 6 off 13 balls is a very poor return. Those are tail-ender stats.
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Post by LJG on Aug 27, 2021 10:41:32 GMT
You're right - I do know. But as I've just pointed out there are other things that can be pointed said to be "the facts". Whatever those are, it's a fact we've haemorrhaged 7 players to clubs playing at a higher standard than we are. That tells its own story about what went on last season. I still don't agree with your logic. The majority of players who have moved on from last season are not playing at League 1 level (some are not playing at all!). Even the Magnificent seven are not all setting the world alight and there's further dross looking at the exit sign. Just checked. It's actually 7 players gone to league one clubs. One to SPL and one to Turkish Super League. 5 others have gone to league 2 rivals - all of which currently above us in the table. Only two are playing below National League level. Only the two keepers are yet to find clubs. I don't see what there is not to follow. Barton told us the players he had were not capable of being professional footballers. Having left Rovers almost all of them have proved that to be wrong and 9 of that 23 (over 80% of a starting 11 - almost 40% of those who have left) are with clubs at a higher standard than Rovers. 60% of all of those who have left are in our league or above. Like I said - that tells it's own story about what happened last season.
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Post by LJG on Aug 27, 2021 10:26:09 GMT
and who can predict anything apart from the kickoff will be at 3pm? Topper the nihilist.
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Post by LJG on Aug 26, 2021 21:07:08 GMT
I suppose the point is that most of the out of contract players didn’t play. The ones joey has chosen to let out of their contract have all moved to a higher league or at least the same level in the main. Were they crap or was the manager crap? I guess we will find out in 42 games? they just couldn't be arsed Each and every one of them is a fraud and will go down as the worst bunch of excuses to wear the quarters. Pfft ... that's what everyone said last time ... and the time before that.
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Post by LJG on Aug 26, 2021 20:17:37 GMT
It's a fact that our current manager took over when we weren't in a relegation position and it's a fact they've moved on to play in the league we were relegated out of. What's your point? I think you Know , if you don’t , I can’t be bothered to explain. 😀 You're right - I do know. But as I've just pointed out there are other things that can be pointed said to be "the facts". Whatever those are, it's a fact we've haemorrhaged 7 players to clubs playing at a higher standard than we are. That tells its own story about what went on last season.
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Post by LJG on Aug 26, 2021 20:13:34 GMT
It's a fact that our current manager took over when we weren't in a relegation position and it's a fact they've moved on to play in the league we were relegated out of. What's your point? The 6 players to which you refer have managed to secure contracts with L1 clubs but no fewer than 20 players from last season are no longer with us. That suggests that the 14 others are not good enough for league 1. It seems to me that the vast majority of our squad from last year were not competent at that level. Questions perhaps for those who signed them?  6 players is 55% of a starting 11 - don't forget one to the SPL as well so over 60% of a 1st XI. I'm pretty sure if we were signing 6 players from the league above and one from SPL today there would be absolute delight amongst the fanbase.
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Post by LJG on Aug 26, 2021 20:10:49 GMT
Not really. Hanlon scored 9 goals in half a season under Garner. Ayunga was unplayable against Portsmouth. Wouldn't call that failing. Agreed, for about 30 minutes anyway. One swallow doth not make a summer. He didn't get given many opportunities to do much more swallowing.
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Post by LJG on Aug 26, 2021 19:00:12 GMT
Really interesting interview. I thought it was interesting how he presented the Dave Penney situation. Not such a big falling out or clash of personalities as we'd been led to believe. Of course it's possible the passing of time has made it feel a bit less stressful than it was back then. When you say "led to believe". Who led us to believe it? Only ourselves. It's just us here talking to each other.
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Post by LJG on Aug 26, 2021 18:56:27 GMT
I've said all summer if Hanlan had stayed and enjoyed an injury free season, I think he'd have scored close to 20 in L2, maybe more. It's not just goals he brings to the team though. It was obvious what a massive difference he made to the team on Saturday. His power and pace allowed us to play the game in Exeter's half for the first time in the match. I'm not sure where we find a striker with similar qualities to replace him but if we don't we can kiss goodbye to any faint hopes of promotion. Why would a striker who's never got into double figures in his career before suddenly become proflic this season, Saturday's swansong summed up his game perfectly, plenty of effort but when he was given a presentable chance he allowed the goal to save it. You've changed your tune since Tom Nicholls left.
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Post by LJG on Aug 26, 2021 18:54:31 GMT
So all these players Barton said were the worst he'd ever seen and would never play pro-football again after release from football are all playing higher up the league than Rovers? Where's SteveK to tell me why that's somehow a good thing? They got us  relegated, them’s  the facts. It's a fact that our current manager took over when we weren't in a relegation position and it's a fact they've moved on to play in the league we were relegated out of. What's your point?
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Post by LJG on Aug 26, 2021 18:52:46 GMT
So all these players Barton said were the worst he'd ever seen and would never play pro-football again after release from football are all playing higher up the league than Rovers? Where's SteveK to tell me why that's somehow a good thing? Those players failed 3 managers not just Barton. Not really. Hanlon scored 9 goals in half a season under Garner. Ayunga was unplayable against Portsmouth. Wouldn't call that failing.
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