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Post by LJG on Aug 21, 2021 16:08:16 GMT
It is very easy to be critical after defeat but not to bother to comment after a good display and result. This is fully in evidence by the number of posts after saturdays defeat compared to number of posts after last nights win. Then there is the usual Oldham are terrible and certainties to go down and here you have the mindset of a football supporter. Lets be honest Stevenage were no better on Saturday and we looked awful and in the same vein I would say that we were very good last night and our PERFORMANCE especially in the first half made Oldham look awful. Had we come off 4-0 at half time it would have been a fair reflection of the play and they would probably have got off lightly aided by another inept refereeing performance Yes they have lost their first three league games and are bottom but if you look at those games- 0-1 at home to Newport with Newport scoring an 88th minute winner against the run of play and 1-2 away at Bradford with a 96th minute penalty denying them a draw. Who beat Stevenage last night 4-1? That same Bradford City team. So perhaps they are not as awful as people are saying and perhaps it was more a case of our attacking play and pace and movement of our players tearing them apart? It will be interesting now to see if this was a one off or the signs of much better things to come. So many players impressed me last night and not even a poor second half in comparison to the first can hide my pleasure of seeing the possibility of something special with the performances of Saunders, Collins, Finley, Anderson and Rodman all showing great flair and ability, One quote from a Rovers supporter in this thread who I will not name because I cannot believe the stupidness of the statement and can only assume he is joking or perhaps so old that he has fallen asleep in most of the games he has seen!!- " The standard of the first half of the game was the worst I think I have seen in 60 years of watching professional football!" and I think this sums up just how little credit some are willing to give to the team. All i can say is if that was the worst he has seen then for one he could not have been at either of the previous home games this season for starters!! I would suggest he best not follow football if that is the case because you aren't going to get many better performances over 45 minutes!! Roll on saturday now and lets hope we can see 90 minutes of the worst standard he has seen in 60 years. Can't wait to hear your excuse for this one, Steve ...
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Post by LJG on Aug 18, 2021 18:48:44 GMT
We’re insulting the young lad his name is Hoole So it is!
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Post by LJG on Aug 18, 2021 17:11:03 GMT
What absolute nonsense LJG. I long admired our local talent when we used to produce REAL quality. Those times are` long gone and this is the reason why nowadays we have to get in youngsters on free transfers from other clubs because the ones we are producing are not good enough even when we are at League 2 level. I like Finley because he is a good footballer and I firmly believe that I will like most of JBs signings for the same reason. Lockyer and Lines have been the only good players home grown in the last 20 years. I can assure you LJG that there have been plenty of non home grown talent that I have not been impressed with too so what you are saying is as usual nonsense with the greatest respect. First of all you say you're not critical of Luca Houle now you're saying he's not good enough for League Two ...
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Post by LJG on Aug 18, 2021 15:03:46 GMT
LJG, At least if you are going to be critical get the facts right/ I was not critical of Luca Houles game last week and as regards Ollie Clarke plenty of people used to agree with me on his performances at the time and I did praise him when he played well. Very rarely were my markings for matches far out from the majority who marked the match. I never stated I was right but my match reports were the way I saw the game and as you well know everybody has their opinions on players and how they play. I am not a great lover of the one up front and I like midfielders who WANT the ball and don't shy away from receiving it and get frequently booked for fouling hence why I was not keen on Ollie Clarke. Finley looks to me to be the type of midfielder we should be playing. Of course you like Finley. He's not local and hasn't come up through the ranks as our own youngster - perfect for you. It's our home grown young lads you really don't like.
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Post by LJG on Aug 18, 2021 14:30:46 GMT
The supporters club and probably many of it's members were at the club long before the present board. Shouldn't the football club be trying to work with the supporters club to improve how things are run in the SC if they need improving rather than bullying the SC into change. I went to the game against Stevenage the south stand was most empty I had seen it for a league match (except for lock down) there were also a fair few empty seats in the east and west stands. Fortunately a lot of supporters bought their season tickets before all the recent issues so attendances still look good.But the club needs to engage better with it's fans or some of the supporters will not return. Being here first doesn't mean what they're doing is right. In fact it is perfectly obvious that exactly that attitude is what makes the committee think they are entitled to carry on being as sh** as possible without change including running the SC in a manner completely contrary to the rules of their own constitution.
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Post by LJG on Aug 18, 2021 14:18:21 GMT
Can you hear the haters sing, noooooooo noooooooo… I can’t hear a f&£@ing thing. Woooaaah woooaah Just got back. Lost my voice. Lovesit. Finley my MOM. We beat bottom of the league and you've lost your voice. That tells us everything we need to know about how sh** things have been under Barton.
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Post by LJG on Aug 18, 2021 12:50:43 GMT
It is very easy to be critical after defeat but not to bother to comment after a good display and result. This is fully in evidence by the number of posts after saturdays defeat compared to number of posts after last nights win. Then there is the usual Oldham are terrible and certainties to go down and here you have the mindset of a football supporter. Lets be honest Stevenage were no better on Saturday and we looked awful and in the same vein I would say that we were very good last night and our PERFORMANCE especially in the first half made Oldham look awful. Had we come off 4-0 at half time it would have been a fair reflection of the play and they would probably have got off lightly aided by another inept refereeing performance Yes they have lost their first three league games and are bottom but if you look at those games- 0-1 at home to Newport with Newport scoring an 88th minute winner against the run of play and 1-2 away at Bradford with a 96th minute penalty denying them a draw. Who beat Stevenage last night 4-1? That same Bradford City team. So perhaps they are not as awful as people are saying and perhaps it was more a case of our attacking play and pace and movement of our players tearing them apart? It will be interesting now to see if this was a one off or the signs of much better things to come. So many players impressed me last night and not even a poor second half in comparison to the first can hide my pleasure of seeing the possibility of something special with the performances of Saunders, Collins, Finley, Anderson and Rodman all showing great flair and ability, One quote from a Rovers supporter in this thread who I will not name because I cannot believe the stupidness of the statement and can only assume he is joking or perhaps so old that he has fallen asleep in most of the games he has seen!!- " The standard of the first half of the game was the worst I think I have seen in 60 years of watching professional football!" and I think this sums up just how little credit some are willing to give to the team. All i can say is if that was the worst he has seen then for one he could not have been at either of the previous home games this season for starters!! I would suggest he best not follow football if that is the case because you aren't going to get many better performances over 45 minutes!! Roll on saturday now and lets hope we can see 90 minutes of the worst standard he has seen in 60 years. Get over it, Steve. It wasn't Czech Republic v Holland at Euro 2004. It was second from bottom v bottom in League Two and it looked like it. It was nice to see a bit of attacking play but if we're allowed to say that GC winning week in week out for 46 games and being 4th in League One is "papering over the cracks" then I don't know what to tell you about people not commenting when we win. What I will say though is at least those people just don't comment when they're wrong, unlike you who still comments but pretends you're right - like you always did when Ollie Clarke had a good game, like you did last week when Luca Houle was playing well.
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Post by LJG on Aug 18, 2021 7:26:12 GMT
That's not an argument. It's just contradiction.
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Post by LJG on Aug 17, 2021 22:26:29 GMT
The lady on FB who emailed TG on Sunday, and later spoke to him on the phone, has now contacted the SC to call an EGM. She has the names of 50 members who support this request, I’ve no idea if the meets the requirements. At least the are people trying to be proactive and positive about improving things. Since when have the SC committee cared whether what they do is in accordance with their own constitution or not?
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Post by LJG on Aug 17, 2021 18:27:36 GMT
How would that end, do you think? Jim Chappell should tell Gorringe that 50/50 belongs to the supporters club. Gorringe is out to ruin our club. If by "our club" you're referring to the old boys network of the SC committee then yes he probably is. I hope he succeeds.
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Post by LJG on Aug 17, 2021 12:26:01 GMT
It’s been so long since I saw any player for us do any of those things I wouldn’t recognise it if I saw one! 😉 Ive Just forgotten what they look like. UTG! Reckon the last one I saw put one in Saturday. I was going to say ... he scored Saturday.
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Post by LJG on Aug 16, 2021 20:22:05 GMT
Well ... what do the SC expect really? Chat sh** - get banged. You can't be endlessly critical of the football club and fabricate rumours about the owner then expect them to be happy to have you around.
As for the "demand" of £50k - what a bizarre state of affairs. How can the football club "demand" money to which they are not entitled? I suspect that is a deliberate choice of tone and language by Chappel which, frankly, goes to illustrate the position the SC have put themselves in.
The committee have acted like they're football club owners in waiting for years and have now been categorically told they're not.
Quite how any of that helps or represents the supporters ... I don't know.
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Post by LJG on Aug 16, 2021 19:48:58 GMT
I didn't say I wanted him suspended but that is not the case for some of the family, in the past other clubs have suspended managers when awaiting trial. I am more disappointed about Hill leaving, if JB were to be found guilty because of the severity of the case he could land up going to jail, Hill may have been a good replacement. I know it was only one game but he did do a good job in charge of the Oxford game. Hopefully JB will turn things around but some players don't seem to be giving 100 percent at the moment. We could do with 11 players with the effort of Stu Sinclair. Whilst "assault by beating" sounds a serious crime it's the most minor of assault offences that's why it's only heard in a Magistrates Court, I've no idea where you get the impression from he will go to jail if he's convicted. Although Wael's already said Barton will be dismissed if he's found guilty, if he does leave I sense Wael will want to bring in an entirely new management team not appoint anybody who had connections to Barton. Hopefully things will improve tomorrow night as, if they don't, you do have to wonder where our next pts are coming from with two tough looking away fixtures coming up next. Your University of Google Law degree has failed you again I'm afraid, Topper (or you've failed it). The maximum sentence for a summary only offence (one tried in the magistrates court) is a fine of five thousand pounds or six months in prison or both. The sentencing guidelines will categorise the offence based on harm done and culpability - factors indicating greater harm include vulnerability of victim due to personal circumstances (domestic violence) factors indicating higher culpability including use of a weapon (including a shod foot). At that point the categorised offence is given a category range - aggravating factors include previous convictions. For category 1 offences with aggravating factors the maximum sentence of 6 months imprisonment is available. D minus. See me after class next week
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Post by LJG on Aug 16, 2021 16:22:24 GMT
7071 at the last count but numbers may decrease if TM tickets don't arrive for tomorrow Seriously the PC has twice as many members than s/t holders, I do find that hard to believe, probably 71 is an exaggerated number? Whoosh. gaschat.co.uk/thread/18393/yesterdays-attendance?page=1
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Post by LJG on Aug 16, 2021 15:48:17 GMT
People are gonna stop supporting coz they cant have a special room? I was going to start bringing my grand children along, their very young and won't watch a match for 90mins so thought it would be somewhere to take them when they get restless, won't be able to now, so that is two lost at a time when we need to start bringing more youngsters in, so it is important that supporters are treated properly and kids encouraged to go to games. I probably won't bother myself either. So where was everyone else supposed to take their young grandchildren?
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Post by LJG on Aug 16, 2021 15:47:11 GMT
Yeah, I don’t think the president’s club is going to find much sympathy on here after all the shenanigans that have gone on in the past. for instance? I think I set foot in it once (quite literally) by mistake and was removed pretty sharpish.... Thank God you didn't stay!
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Post by LJG on Aug 16, 2021 15:18:09 GMT
Yeah, I don’t think the president’s club is going to find much sympathy on here after all the shenanigans that have gone on in the past. for instance? The times you posted lies on a fans forum on the internet. Had you forgotten already?
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Post by LJG on Aug 16, 2021 15:16:05 GMT
Well it's one way to loose a few more supporters People are gonna stop supporting coz they cant have a special room? He means after the President's Club have made up some scurrilous rumours about the President in a deliberate attempt to destabilise the club. Hey, where's Fanatical to tell us that it's because there's no money?
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Post by LJG on Aug 16, 2021 13:42:56 GMT
There by making the OP pointless, as sooner or later Pitman will play. To balance matters Pitman's record is 177 goals in 308 league games, after he made his debut in 2005. That's not balancing matters - that's just talking about a different matter. The OP is discussing the statistics in relation to our players WHO HAVE PLAYED when compared to the players WHO WE HAVE PLAYED. There's nothing pointless about it and since Pittman HASN'T PLAYED his stats are irrelevant to the current topic of conversation.
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Post by LJG on Aug 16, 2021 13:38:01 GMT
Sounds like you know something we don't - care to share? Good to know this is finally moving ahead, nice to have someone actually ITK. Question is capacity, do we build 20k under the presumption/hope that we expand and grow, or just build 12 for what we need now? Is there anything else you can divulge other than the proposed 20k capacity? Presumably your source has mentioned whether or not naming rights will be sold?
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