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Post by LJG on Aug 16, 2021 12:06:32 GMT
500 pages, why ?, WAQ keeps saying there are no developments, yet people on here keep saying there are; I just do not get it. Sounds like you know something we don't - care to share?
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Post by LJG on Aug 16, 2021 12:05:05 GMT
I notice you conveniently leave out Brett Pittman who has a very good goalscoring record over his career. I know he hasn’t featured yet but he’s got a good a record as any striker in this division you’d imagine. He clearly refers to the players who have played so far.
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Post by LJG on Aug 16, 2021 11:03:35 GMT
Definitely best for both parties if Westbrooke moves on. Probably been the biggest disappointment of all our signings last summer. Supposed to be a major coup but has very little impact when he plays and moments of quality have been few and far between. Exactly. He has been a poor signing. Good he’s going. Joey continues to clear out squad players who make no impact. This is very negative and backwards looking.
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Post by LJG on Aug 16, 2021 9:11:41 GMT
Both played well LJG. All we have to do now is get another 9 players to play well at the same time and we will be on the up!! Young local lads like Lines and Clarke I hope.
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Post by LJG on Aug 16, 2021 8:16:39 GMT
Pretty sure he would've looked at the shareholding / board allocation first.... The rumour at the time was things happened pretty quick (or we would have gone bust) and Wael paid £1 to take on the debt. His advisers would have been well aware of the SC shareholding but were they expecting the SC holding as well, or a contribution to the debt, perhaps? There seemed to be fallout from Day1 that was overlooked in the euphoria of the club being saved (rightly so IMO). UTG Rubbish.
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Post by LJG on Aug 16, 2021 8:15:48 GMT
There seems to have been a clash since Wael arrived. The simple answer might be that Wael thought he was buying the club - then found out the Supporters Club owned a substantial chunk of it and refused to sell. He has lessened their holding by capitalising the debt. They hold this chunk of the club on behalf of all fans - or so they used to say. They have done fabulous things for the club over many years selling enormous numbers of tickets and doing the away travel. Sad to see them squeezed out instead of embraced but who knows? There are two sides to every story and currently we know neither for sure. UTG! If this is Wael's problem (which I'm sure it isn't) it's very easily solved. He can issue enough new shares to himself that the SC holding will be saturated to the point it becomes minute. In fact exactly this was the SC's new whinge when the debt was capitalised.
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Post by LJG on Aug 16, 2021 8:06:26 GMT
Was the best player on the pitch but needs more players in front of him.Waste of time him getting up the pitch with only Saunders marked by two or three players in front of him. I thought Luca Houle was our best player by a mile.
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Post by LJG on Aug 16, 2021 8:02:50 GMT
Again some people seem to flippantly think "why has he only decided this 2 games into the new season" or words/sentiments to that effect. Similarly to GC, it's just a total misunderstanding of what working away from your family can do to a family over a period of time. I work away for several weeks at a time, and I quite enjoy it, but it does put a big strain on my home life. It got to a point a few years back when in order to give my relationship a chance when it was breaking down, I had to leave my offshore rotation in favour of an office-based role. I'm now back working away ad-hoc, but it's much easier for the family back home to deal with it because it's not as regular as it used to be. Everyone in the industry always says the same thing, the hardest part is keeping the family happy back home, as it is really tough on them. Then when you are back it's always this "cramming" in as many nice things as possible, but for some it can be laced with a feeling that it's only being done because they're off again soon. Some embrace it, some can handle it, and some can only handle it for a period of time until they realise that for the sake of themselves and their family, they need to make a change. There is no shame in that, and I do think that some who are quick to judge haven't walked a mile in the others' shoes. Timing still seems odd, why stick it out all summer then quit just as the real work starts, plus not even turn up for work on your last week in the job. Although it was always a risk one would quit, didn't Wael learn anything from GC wanting to move back to living with his family. I think the timing fits when you put it like that. Over the summer there would be no or almost no travelling but still getting paid. That would be a daft time to leave in my opinion.
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Post by LJG on Aug 15, 2021 20:58:53 GMT
barton wont be leaving any day soon get that into your thick scull if anything can penetrate it! See you on Boxing Day.
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Post by LJG on Aug 15, 2021 7:13:19 GMT
So cj you give the Manager full control of bringing in 13 new players and then you judge him after 3 games.That is RIDICULOUS. If you really want him to be successful then you would be willing to at least give him 10-15 games. Personally I have seen nothing so far to make me think Saunders will be an improvement on Ayunga playing the way we are. If we havent got a targetman then IMO you play a pressurising game by pushing three attacking players up on the opponents and compress the play. How many more games are we going to see the opposing centre half be the best player on the park because he has no pressure marking Saunders. Stevenage were pretty awful but was it really surprising they took control of the last 15 minutes with a midfield that pretty well comprised of the useless Hargreaves and Grant who has no offensive skills. I wait in hope that returning players will see a more progressive attacking play from better players. If we dont give the Manager time we will never know if he can be successful with this team-his team. Luca Hoole played a blinder yesterday wouldn't you say, Steve? (As if I don't already know the answer to that).
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Post by LJG on Aug 15, 2021 7:11:39 GMT
joey stop beating yourself up after todays performance you will get it right its not a sprint its a marathon or is it a snickers! time will tell It's not beating himself up that's been the problem ...
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Post by LJG on Aug 14, 2021 10:05:46 GMT
Hardly engaged with the forum since March 2020 as I felt disconnected from the club whilst we couldn’t go to games. But now I’m back and ready to feel deflated again come 5pm! It's been awful hasn't it? That miserable isolation, that depressed claustrophobic feeling. The sense that there is something terrible in the world that we are powerless to change ... we can finally all get back to that at 5 o'clock today.
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Post by LJG on Aug 14, 2021 9:59:02 GMT
I thought we weren't premature enough! If we'd have shook hands nicely in season curtailment, been all nice about it and put it down to a good try but an experiment that just wasn't right for us, all parties could have walked away with dignity.....and we had replacement options of the calibre of Nigel Clough amongst others. What transpired was to sack him after the transfer window closed with no credible option at that time apart from PT. From December 2019, the decisions taken to appoint managers have left us broken. 5 years of hard work has been blown away in 18 months and it's going to get worse before better. It's nice to hear encouraging words from manager on HAG, but at some point in near future it will have to be actions that speak louder. Using the same logic, I assume that you thought JB should have been sacked at the end of last season? Yup. Oh sorry ... I thought you were asking me. 😉
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Post by LJG on Aug 14, 2021 9:35:54 GMT
I can’t believe how worked up people are getting were not in April with the season about to finish we are one league match in and lost to the one of the teams that gonna be up there with 60% of a squad and with only 1 fit striker and would have got a solid point if it Wasn’t for a stupid refereeing decision and a player sent off and the cup lost to Cheltenham is the same with only 60% of the squad available losing to last seasons champions who gonna be comfortable staying up this season,I’m not gonna judge Barton or the players until we get the likes of Finley,Nicholson,Collins,pitman back with a full strength squad and will most likely another striker added and see how it goes because I remember everyone saying giving Ben Garner time but it’s different because his name Joey Barton and everyone got a Agenda against him. Of course you are correct. Let's give him 10 games and the asses.He can have 10 games but we can't just go giving away our livestock!
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Post by LJG on Aug 13, 2021 17:44:07 GMT
What crowd do we all reckon? I’m going 6915 Be happy if we break 7k. Anything under 9,000 would be a disappointment to me considering this is the first chance we have had to watch a home league game in nearly 18 months. Think you're in for a shock.
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Post by LJG on Aug 13, 2021 17:43:44 GMT
It doesn't matter what the guy says there will be those who criticise and those who like it. I like the blokes attitude to football and enjoy listening to what he has to say.Much better than listening to Cowley at Portsmouth and his intensity and second pressing or a Pearson who you feel is getting more and more irritated by the second. At the end of the day when it comes to 3pm tomorrow the talking ends and the poor Managers have to rely on the players on the pitch. UTG Setting your stall out early, Steve.
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Post by LJG on Aug 13, 2021 16:21:15 GMT
kingswoodpirate70, Totally out of order. Try saying it to his face if you feel that strongly about it. Have you told Ollie Clarke and Alfie Kilgour all the stuff you say on here about them to their face? Also - does what you're saying definitely make sense? It's out of order to call someone a bully who uses violence and if you do you should "say it to their face" i.e. the strong implication is that that person will bully you and be violent towards you if you do ... think you've got yourself a bit muddled there.
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Post by LJG on Aug 13, 2021 16:17:09 GMT
But last seasons bunch of losers beat Portsmouth before r Joey turned up and told them they were getting relegated with 8 games to go. So was he being open and honest when he said that? Or was he a loser talking to winners to make them losers? Good questions. Need a better answer than I can give. 😃 Few fans believe last years team were a bunch of winners. They literally won a few games and that’s it. A clear out was needed. No need to look so far back. It’s what losers do. Continual focus on failure is their thought process. Not me or many others. Look forward with Hope. To be fair I don't disagree that positive visualisation is an important tool in sport. I just think it's not really true to say that Barton is "open and honest" because he said we'll get promoted this season. He was being open and honest at the end of last season tipping us for the drop and slagging players in the press (what you might call losers talk) when he should have been concentrating on what he could do to change things.
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Post by LJG on Aug 13, 2021 15:40:44 GMT
Are you gonna list the winners in the dressing room and what they've won or is that just more magical thinking? Lots of players have succeeded in this team. To be honest, means nothing. Winning is an attitude of mind. Last season we had a bunch of losers. We will see if the attitude of this group leads to success. Lots of fans still have hope. Try it my friend. But last seasons bunch of losers beat Portsmouth before r Joey turned up and told them they were getting relegated with 8 games to go. So was he being open and honest when he said that? Or was he a loser talking to winners to make them losers?
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Post by LJG on Aug 13, 2021 13:24:50 GMT
Reading some of the comments from our so called supporters " I'd hate to go to war with some of them " Defeated before the battle . Ridiculous isn't it? That would be like talking to the press about how we would re-shape our squad to compete in League Two with 8 games left of our League One season.
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