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Post by LJG on Jul 12, 2021 8:21:22 GMT
Ooo Pirate you've gone there! We got further than I expected but I did fear we would limp out of the tournament with regrets and that is what has happened. Southgate has found a formula to get us far in tournaments but needs to find a formula to win these real tough games. I did feel it was one we lost rather than an amazing Italian machine beating us. History will say Italy, 34 games unbeaten and European winners. My eyes say a good team but were beatable. Like you say, I think we could have even beaten them if he we had shown a bit more of a ballsy approach, some teams would probably have won it right at the start after that first goal, we managed to lose it from that! I really don't know where we go from here. Southgate has done a good job in so many ways but I don't think he is capable of getting us over the line without extreme luck on our side... Is Southgate the right man to get the best out of the likes of Phil Foden, Jadon Sancho, Mason Greenwood, Jude Bellingham, Bakayo Saka, Jack Grealish, Trent Alexander-Arnold and then potentially the likes of Harvey Elliott, Dane Scarlett and Shola Shoretire etc. In my opinion the answer is no, so we should look for someone who is. As I said, a ruthless business. Is it a bad time to bring up the fact that your track record of judging the likely success of managers is absolutely atrocious?
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Post by LJG on Jul 12, 2021 8:02:02 GMT
Still a glaringly bad take. Boom.
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Post by LJG on Jul 12, 2021 7:59:46 GMT
If any of us lived abroad we would give them a slap on the back and tell them it was all OK 😄 the French guy at work got crap the other day and I fully expect him to give it back today. It's not even banter though. It feels like a general hatred. Assumingly fueled by Brexit. Bollocks, it's been the same for decades. Nothing to do with Brexit.
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Post by LJG on Jul 11, 2021 22:52:30 GMT
If you think the players let themselves down with their penalties, you should read your own post back. I am gutted that we lost tonight, but your post is cringe worthy. They did. That was our one chance in our lifetime to win something. We got beaten by an old Italian team with two blokes almost in their 40a at the back. It’s most likely going to be another 10-30 years before we get another shot like that. Stop being so easy on them. This was a once in A lifetime chance. I have £300 right now which says we won’t see another final in 10 years. That was our shot, and we blew it Is that s flat £300 or index linked?
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Post by LJG on Jul 11, 2021 22:49:47 GMT
I appreciate some need to vent or let off steam, but I do think they will be hurting too. England did well in this tournament but just missed out, nothing to be ashamed off. They will learn from this. If we are being critical then we lost it at half time, we never really came out and could have done with a cushion of that second goal when we were on top in the first half. Qatar 2022 next year, in the meantime back to Rovers. I am hurting so badly I can’t even begin to come to terms with it. Those jokers cost us everything. I can’t bring myself to ever get anh hope up again with these bottlers - and they were bottlers. Joey Barton has announced that he wouldn't have selected any of those England players for Fleetwood.
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Post by LJG on Jul 11, 2021 22:36:14 GMT
Well, that hasn’t taken long to turn around! Don’t think anyone bottled it. They missed a penalty, that’s all! Best to keep some perspective perhaps. 😉 UTG! Perspective? Like 55 years worth of perspective? Most of you will be dead before you see another final - and those appalling, literally awful, penalties,’were your last effort as an England supporter. They deserve both barrels. That was the worst penalty ensemble I’ve seen for England in my life. Did you miss England v Portugal in 2006?
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Post by LJG on Jul 11, 2021 22:24:12 GMT
Got to say Italy fully deserved it, strange choice of penalty takers, dust ourselves down. We never showed up second half and always needed a second goal. We did well to get to the final, well done lads. [br No, Not well done. They bottled that shoot out like a primary school team. I don’t want to see any of them in the shirt again They were embarrassingly shyt, absolute losers. This is a bad take. Sorry.
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Post by LJG on Jul 11, 2021 22:23:07 GMT
Only one player can make that stutter run up work and he went home in the round of 16. Jorginho did it in the semi And Locatelli, Olma and Morata did it and messed it up. It's a sh** tactic.
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Post by LJG on Jul 11, 2021 22:21:27 GMT
Absolute *ing jokers Saint rashford and the other *ing waste of space losers should go back to their million pound mansions and try to work out how they lost this country their best chance in 55 years of winning a trophy. Absolute *ing loser the lot of them. They can happily go back to winning trophies with their league clubs while bottling it massively for their country. They should all be bood for letting their entire country down, bottling pricks Nah. Took the best team in the tournament to pens - not bottled anything. Rashford ... well ... I said he shouldn't have been in the squad but it was one bad pen.
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Post by LJG on Jul 11, 2021 22:19:29 GMT
Only one player can make that stutter run up work and he went home in the round of 16.
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Post by LJG on Jul 11, 2021 8:55:33 GMT
Its about the fitness levels, let's start analysing the results after 10 league games, pre season means nothing, plenty of times we have won tough friendly matches then started poorly. Clubs who are trying to win the league don't waste the first ten league games. I say this every season.
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Post by LJG on Jul 10, 2021 19:31:55 GMT
Although results of friendlies mean absolutely nothing what I find worrying is that three of our recognised strikers played today- Collins,Saunders and Ayunga and yet again managed not to score a goal against mediocre opposition. I have no confidence whatsoever that this "strikeforce" are anywhere near good enough and it looks to me that we still need to sign TWO more strikers to be anywhere near good enough. It does not surprise me the two results taking into account the midfield that has been played so far. I don't see any of Hargreaves, Martinez, Tomlinson, Mehew or Zain Walker being good enough and you could add Biddle to those. I would release them all with the exception of Martinez. I know nothing about Hoole,Budd,Egan,Greenslade,Thompson,Murray other than I doubt any of them will be in the squad for the first game. In fact I think Westbrooke as the only real experienced midfielder on view will struggle to make the first eleven. It does worry me that we have no experienced keeper signed yet other than Annsi and also with Hughes and Anderton in the back we have again struggled to keep out minimal opposition. Ryan Jones seems to have done OK in both games but again the opposition does not really enable him to be assessed as to being good enough for the squad. When JB said up to nine players could be required I don't think he is far wrong and so far we gave signed three. I hope that whatev er signings we are now making will be completed by next saturday bar say one. You can't criticise, Barton. Stevek will be along in a minute to put you right ... hang on a second!!!
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Post by LJG on Jul 10, 2021 17:53:23 GMT
Barton now saying that he wouldn't have signed a single one of the players in this friendly squad for Fleetwood and that there were things going on even further back behind the scenes at Bisham that he didn't know about. He's now realised that this isn't actually his squad of players and he hasn't been in charge of recruitment since the end of last season at all. According to Frost he's demanding that Wael buys him one of those big foam fingers so from now on he can make it clear whose fault any other losses are. I know this is said in jest but just in case anyone actually believes it - it is a complete fabrication… Prove it.
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Post by LJG on Jul 10, 2021 15:40:49 GMT
Barton now saying that he wouldn't have signed a single one of the players in this friendly squad for Fleetwood and that there were things going on even further back behind the scenes at Bisham that he didn't know about. He's now realised that this isn't actually his squad of players and he hasn't been in charge of recruitment since the end of last season at all.
According to Frost he's demanding that Wael buys him one of those big foam fingers so from now on he can make it clear whose fault any other losses are.
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Post by LJG on Jul 10, 2021 12:55:17 GMT
The thing is with Swiss et al is that we know nothing more about their own credentials, personal successes and net wealth to judge whether they have a point or whether its astute advice. If they were well known businessman that could prove thier own successes and by successes I mean be millionaires a few times over, I might well be more inclined to take somethings seriously. I said on here weeks ago that the AF is full of their paranoid conspiracy theories (honestly some of the stuff in that thread you've posted is more worrying than funny) and got torn to shreds because "we're all gasheads and we all want what's best for the club". Do we f**k. Swiss and anyone who agrees with him is either mentally unwell with paranoid psychosis - i.e. believes things which are provably and demonstrably untrue - or liars posting in bad faith with their own agenda. I would suggest that given that the same people were the ones with the most to say (sh** to sling) when Higgs and even the Dunfords were in charge that it is the latter rather than the former. As for people saying Swiss is a clever bloke ... if a parrot can repeat the glossary of terms from Accounting For Dummies then sure ... clever parrot.
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Post by LJG on Jul 9, 2021 14:29:45 GMT
I'm too superstitious to bet. Never bet on my own team, never bet against them. It’s bad luck to be superstitious. Now I don't know if I'm coming or going!
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Post by LJG on Jul 9, 2021 11:42:57 GMT
You are not wrong ... there was some awful boardroom nonsense and squabbling as well and poor leadership on and off the field - Bigboyitis - Mr Higgs had it in spades!! LJG I have always valued your input on here ... what has Joey Barton got to do for you to change your opinion of him or even warm to him a little? Yeovil never had the owners, financial backing or clout, infrastructure, fanbase or were part of a big enough town/city to make a sustainable go of it in the championship, the directors took the money and were happy with their 1 season of popularity. It was the same as Burton and for Wycombe this year. Orient?
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Post by LJG on Jul 9, 2021 11:32:57 GMT
So to bring up a different subject.... Giorgio Chiellini being friendly to Jordi Alba before a shoot out.... Good sportsmanship or mind games? Both. I do think his excitement was genuine though.
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Post by LJG on Jul 9, 2021 11:31:52 GMT
Why ? What has he done to offend you apart from being a jailbird and a nasty man..... PS I love him but only if we win promotion at the first attempt and then if he failed i would treat him like i did with DC and call him a loser and cheat I couldn't care less about the jail time or violence. I really only know anything about him from his time at Rovers so far which speaks for itself. I can't be bothered going round and round over this again. It's been done to death. See the other 200 Barton threads for details.
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Post by LJG on Jul 9, 2021 10:53:13 GMT
Old gits and loanees. The exact template that got the likes of Yeovil and Orient into the Championship ... and when all the old gits had retired and the loanees gone back to their parent clubs, crashing out of the league. You are not wrong ... there was some awful boardroom nonsense and squabbling as well and poor leadership on and off the field - Bigboyitis - Mr Higgs had it in spades!! LJG I have always valued your input on here ... what has Joey Barton got to do for you to change your opinion of him or even warm to him a little? Resign.
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