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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2017 9:02:50 GMT
Maybe I deserve some of the flak given - I don't expect everyone to agree with my opinion. Anyone who does is probably reluctant to post here. What I will say, and this is a fact - after keeping us in the dark for months, then rushing a short 3 paragraph statement out at 11pm when under immense pressure - is not behaviour deserving of my respect. Can't disagree with that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2017 9:13:21 GMT
I've been supportive of our owners in the past. Even been criticised for it on here (and then quoted as a "today's belter" on otib. I realise now they are charlatans. They have not put a penny into the club. All the spending - paying off MSP, players, contracts, new curtains, land at Almondsbury - is paid for by BORROWING AGAINST THE MEM! I wouldn't even be surprised to find out they aquired the club by promising to pay the debts, including money owed to Nick Higgs. He'd have probably been happy just to get his money back (which by accounts on here he hasn't got yet). I no longer buy into this "In Wael we trust", and I don't believe they have any intention of redeveloping the mem, let alone financing a new stadium. It seems very likely that the Al-Qadis have no money. At least none they are prepared to invest. This whole ownership has been about the family giving their youngest a toy to play with. This is the reality I now accept. No doubt your comments are 'spur of the moment' in disappointment at the news? So a couple of points - all of the money spent has been out of Al- Quadi pockets - the charge on the Mem makes no difference to that (and in my view was a necessary strategic move) - in effect, they have loaned money to themselves Most of the money you think is owed to Mr Higgs has been paid as is with the other directors - except for an amount held back for 'eventualities' which is not unusual for a purchase of this magnitude Your faith may well be renewed in time - wait for announcements Wrong none of the ex directors have had their loans repaid
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 3, 2017 9:14:54 GMT
No doubt your comments are 'spur of the moment' in disappointment at the news? So a couple of points - all of the money spent has been out of Al- Quadi pockets - the charge on the Mem makes no difference to that (and in my view was a necessary strategic move) - in effect, they have loaned money to themselves Most of the money you think is owed to Mr Higgs has been paid as is with the other directors - except for an amount held back for 'eventualities' which is not unusual for a purchase of this magnitude Your faith may well be renewed in time - wait for announcements Wrong none of the ex directors have had their loans repaid Thank you Nick Higgs
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Post by pirate on Aug 3, 2017 9:43:52 GMT
I wonder why Gillingham rejected their 'investment'?
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 3, 2017 9:45:08 GMT
I wonder why Gillingham rejected their 'investment'? Because they wanted the whole club, not one run the the incumbent chairman
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Post by gaelgas on Aug 3, 2017 10:09:46 GMT
Maybe I deserve some of the flak given - I don't expect everyone to agree with my opinion. Anyone who does is probably reluctant to post here. What I will say, and this is a fact - after keeping us in the dark for months, then rushing a short 3 paragraph statement out at 11pm when under immense pressure - is not behaviour deserving of my respect. I'm not going to give you flak, I understand your frustration, I just wonder if the reason there has been no announcement before is that the whole thing isn't dead, if it was what would they have to gain from not announcing that before now? There hand was forced last night so they've made a brief statement, maybe their frustration has boiled over and they've decided to call UWE's bluff.
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Post by chilly1883 on Aug 3, 2017 10:44:56 GMT
Where is the uwe??👍
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 3, 2017 11:00:48 GMT
Maybe I deserve some of the flak given - I don't expect everyone to agree with my opinion. Anyone who does is probably reluctant to post here. What I will say, and this is a fact - after keeping us in the dark for months, then rushing a short 3 paragraph statement out at 11pm when under immense pressure - is not behaviour deserving of my respect. I'm not going to give you flak, I understand your frustration, I just wonder if the reason there has been no announcement before is that the whole thing isn't dead, if it was what would they have to gain from not announcing that before now? There hand was forced last night so they've made a brief statement, maybe their frustration has boiled over and they've decided to call UWE's bluff. I thought they walked away yesterday and CB's FB post prompted the statement? I guess there's always the hope they are trying to call the UWE's bluff as I can't get my head around why they bought The Colony if they knew at the time a deal with the UWE was going to be unlikely. I've no idea what to make of the ALQ's seems to me they might have got in out of their depth, after NH sold them a suicide pass.
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Post by gaelgas on Aug 3, 2017 11:09:19 GMT
I'm not going to give you flak, I understand your frustration, I just wonder if the reason there has been no announcement before is that the whole thing isn't dead, if it was what would they have to gain from not announcing that before now? There hand was forced last night so they've made a brief statement, maybe their frustration has boiled over and they've decided to call UWE's bluff. I thought they walked away yesterday and CB's FB post prompted the statement? I guess there's always the hope they are trying to call the UWE's bluff as I can't get my head around why they bought The Colony if they knew at the time a deal with the UWE was going to be unlikely. I've no idea what to make of the ALQ's seems to me they might have got in out of their depth, after NH sold them a suicide pass. I honestly don't have any inside knowledge, just my thoughts, if UWE is dead in the water why would they have not announced it earlier on their own terms rather than being forced to by a post on FB? That's the reason I think it might not be the end of the story. Entirely likely that I am wrong however.
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Post by garystash on Aug 3, 2017 11:16:14 GMT
I thought they walked away yesterday and CB's FB post prompted the statement? I guess there's always the hope they are trying to call the UWE's bluff as I can't get my head around why they bought The Colony if they knew at the time a deal with the UWE was going to be unlikely. I've no idea what to make of the ALQ's seems to me they might have got in out of their depth, after NH sold them a suicide pass. I honestly don't have any inside knowledge, just my thoughts, if UWE is dead in the water why would they have not announced it earlier on their own terms rather than being forced to by a post on FB? That's the reason I think it might not be the end of the story. Entirely likely that I am wrong however. I respect your view, but I think you're clinging to hope. My opinion is that the rumours of the AQs trying to sell the club as they - they being Hani - want out, have some truth.
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Post by Iliveinbidefordgas on Aug 3, 2017 11:17:10 GMT
You can't keep talking about it been going on for way to long personally I think wael as had enough and is pushing uwe to making decision one way or the other ie take the deal he wants or don't end of been far to much time wasted on this whole issue
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Post by baggins on Aug 3, 2017 11:17:54 GMT
I honestly don't have any inside knowledge, just my thoughts, if UWE is dead in the water why would they have not announced it earlier on their own terms rather than being forced to by a post on FB? That's the reason I think it might not be the end of the story. Entirely likely that I am wrong however. I respect your view, but I think you're clinging to hope. My opinion is that the rumours of the AQs trying to sell the club as they - they being Hani - want out, have some truth. Love a good rumour.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2017 11:20:28 GMT
This is a "worse fears" thread,we all know the op could be right.
The other extreme is to just accept that the UWE was not right for the club and wael will develop the mem or find a new site for a ground.
Were back to waiting for a new/redeveloped ground which everyone knows is the only way we can really make progress.
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Post by gaelgas on Aug 3, 2017 11:21:52 GMT
I honestly don't have any inside knowledge, just my thoughts, if UWE is dead in the water why would they have not announced it earlier on their own terms rather than being forced to by a post on FB? That's the reason I think it might not be the end of the story. Entirely likely that I am wrong however. I respect your view, but I think you're clinging to hope. My opinion is that the rumours of the AQs trying to sell the club as they - they being Hani - want out, have some truth. I hadn't heard that particular rumour, do you have a link or anything?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2017 11:25:41 GMT
I honestly don't have any inside knowledge, just my thoughts, if UWE is dead in the water why would they have not announced it earlier on their own terms rather than being forced to by a post on FB? That's the reason I think it might not be the end of the story. Entirely likely that I am wrong however. I respect your view, but I think you're clinging to hope.My opinion is that the rumours of the AQs trying to sell the club as they - they being Hani - want out, have some truth. and it's the Hope that is killing us.
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Post by baggins on Aug 3, 2017 11:27:03 GMT
I respect your view, but I think you're clinging to hope.My opinion is that the rumours of the AQs trying to sell the club as they - they being Hani - want out, have some truth. and it's the Hope that is killing us. Speak for yourself. It's the lifestyle that's killing me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2017 11:31:17 GMT
I've been supportive of our owners in the past. Even been criticised for it on here (and then quoted as a "today's belter" on otib. I realise now they are charlatans. They have not put a penny into the club. All the spending - paying off MSP, players, contracts, new curtains, land at Almondsbury - is paid for by BORROWING AGAINST THE MEM! I wouldn't even be surprised to find out they aquired the club by promising to pay the debts, including money owed to Nick Higgs. He'd have probably been happy just to get his money back (which by accounts on here he hasn't got yet). I no longer buy into this "In Wael we trust", and I don't believe they have any intention of redeveloping the mem, let alone financing a new stadium. It seems very likely that the Al-Qadis have no money. At least none they are prepared to invest. This whole ownership has been about the family giving their youngest a toy to play with. This is the reality I now accept. Charlatans for refusing to spend millions on something they didn't plan, had no input into, never agreed with, that you don't know the details of, was a cheap option, in a sh** location, that in all likelihood would have been a sh** deal for us anyway. ...and its taken all this time to come to that conclusion? I would have thought the UWE was Higgs main selling point, why else take over this club?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2017 11:31:40 GMT
and it's the Hope that is killing us. Speak for yourself. It's the lifestyle that's killing me. Well stop going to those Barrymore Pool Parties then !
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Post by thegasman on Aug 3, 2017 11:33:00 GMT
If UWE believed that the deal was still ongoing, and documents had been issued for DS to sign, then between the issue of the docs, and 11pm last night something on DS side has changed dramatically. Maybe the clues are in the Facebook post that prompted such an urgent response by DS? I hope to Christ not. Saturday can't come quickly enough. I want football!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2017 11:33:50 GMT
Charlatans for refusing to spend millions on something they didn't plan, had no input into, never agreed with, that you don't know the details of, was a cheap option, in a sh** location, that in all likelihood would have been a sh** deal for us anyway. ...and its taken all this time to come to that conclusion? I would have thought the UWE was Higgs main selling point, why else take over this club? Agreed. They've had 18 months to negotiate this, so let's drop this 'Higgs bashing' nonsense. If it was that bad they should have walked away in a matter of weeks, not eighteen months later!
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