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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 3, 2017 16:17:44 GMT
Disgraceful statement but probably the nearest thing to the truth he said. His puppet masters don't have the money for UWE but could put together a good team in a sh** ground like Bournemouth have. Actually on reflection I think he just said we don't have the money for the stadium but if we can hang on DC we can continue to bat above our weight and have crazy fun doing that instead. f**k off Hamer just f**k off you condescending puppet. Come on Wael "let's be having you! He's a prized tw@t but Wael's a bottler for sending him out to meet the press.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Aug 3, 2017 16:18:26 GMT
Notwithstanding that the previous redevelopment was 18,500 do we know if that was constrained by an overall cap put on the capacity of the stadium by BCC or by the amount of room available? If it's the latter and we no longer need to build the student flats would that mean an increase in possible capacity to say 21,000? Could the pitch be lowered like the UWE? This would also increase the capacity. If the Sh*T can build a stand that holds 14k why can't we? The pitch we've got used to flood for a passtime. Would only get worse 6ft lower.
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Post by james246 on Aug 3, 2017 16:19:51 GMT
I think some of the comments against the Rovers board and owners are too harsh. It seems all the money was in place to purchase the land but somehow dealing with the UWE proved impossible. The issue appears to relate to behaviours.
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Post by gaelgas on Aug 3, 2017 16:20:21 GMT
Could the pitch be lowered like the UWE? This would also increase the capacity. If the Sh*T can build a stand that holds 14k why can't we? The pitch we've got used to flood for a passtime. Would only get worse 6ft lower. I don't think lowering the pitch is a goer either, but without the flats there should be a bit more room surely?
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Post by toddy1953 on Aug 3, 2017 16:21:04 GMT
Notwithstanding that the previous redevelopment was 18,500 do we know if that was constrained by an overall cap put on the capacity of the stadium by BCC or by the amount of room available? If it's the latter and we no longer need to build the student flats would that mean an increase in possible capacity to say 21,000? Could the pitch be lowered like the UWE? This would also increase the capacity. If the Sh*T can build a stand that holds 14k why can't we? I like your thinking, but the infrastructure around the ground is the issue for me, it's a nightmare when we have a crowd of 7/8000, I couldn't comprehend 20000. Also, wasn't it said somewhere, that it will cost more to redevelop than get a new stadium, something to with VAT?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2017 16:21:43 GMT
Disgraceful statement but probably the nearest thing to the truth he said. His puppet masters don't have the money for UWE but could put together a good team in a sh** ground like Bournemouth have. Actually on reflection I think he just said we don't have the money for the stadium but if we can hang on DC we can continue to bat above our weight and have crazy fun doing that instead. f**k off Hamer just f**k off you condescending puppet. Come on Wael "let's be having you! Hani controls the money...Wael is just a fan like the rest of us. Hamer is just a member of staff who seems to know little more than the rest of us.
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Post by aghast on Aug 3, 2017 16:22:10 GMT
I don't know how a redeveloped Mem could be financed with the very limited non-football revenue streams.
How would investors get their money back plus interest?
If like Pantsdown did, we were just gifted the money, then I think an 18-20k stadium would be just fine.
With investors taking vast chunks of our attendance revenue, I don't see how it can work. We'll have no money for players.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2017 16:23:26 GMT
Notwithstanding that the previous redevelopment was 18,500 do we know if that was constrained by an overall cap put on the capacity of the stadium by BCC or by the amount of room available? If it's the latter and we no longer need to build the student flats would that mean an increase in possible capacity to say 21,000? Could the pitch be lowered like the UWE? This would also increase the capacity. If the Sh*T can build a stand that holds 14k why can't we? Due to the water-table you would create a boating-lake or we could switch to playing water polo.
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Post by matealotblue on Aug 3, 2017 16:26:32 GMT
Could the pitch be lowered like the UWE? This would also increase the capacity. If the Sh*T can build a stand that holds 14k why can't we? Due to the water-table you would create a boating-lake or we could switch to playing water polo. And damage our newly installed drainage. 😀
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2017 16:30:15 GMT
Could the pitch be lowered like the UWE? This would also increase the capacity. If the Sh*T can build a stand that holds 14k why can't we? Due to the water-table you would create a boating-lake or we could switch to playing water polo. Just noticed the suggestion came from Mr Pond ...
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Post by singupgas on Aug 3, 2017 16:30:15 GMT
I would seriously ask Wael and co to reconsider negotiating with UWE again. This is going to rumble on for weeks now. if uwe are happy to negotiate call them out on it.
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Post by beaver132 on Aug 3, 2017 16:36:20 GMT
He's definitely, definitely setting it up for a redevelopment of the Mem. "Hamer: Alternative sites for the stadium in the area are very few and far between" That's what we'll do; cheap option as always. That's it then for this football club to be honest. League One football at best. Most likely L2/non-league. Get a ST this year if you haven't already as it's likely to be the highest standard of football you'll see from us for the next century or so. The club's ceiling has literally dropped by about 200,000ft overnight. We got to 'the championship' while at Twerton. Bournemouth are Prem. Burton are Championship. Scunthorpe were Championship with tiny gates. It's difficult but not impossible.
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Post by gaelgas on Aug 3, 2017 16:40:29 GMT
I would seriously ask Wael and co to reconsider negotiating with UWE again. This is going to rumble on for weeks now. if uwe are happy to negotiate call them out on it. I would agree with this. If the UWE want this as much as they say they do maybe this is the kick up the proverbial that they needed to realise they are going to have to give some ground. Maybe now it's out in the open each side will know where the stumbling block is and resolve it.
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Post by beaver132 on Aug 3, 2017 16:41:37 GMT
Could the pitch be lowered like the UWE? This would also increase the capacity. If the Sh*T can build a stand that holds 14k why can't we? I like your thinking, but the infrastructure around the ground is the issue for me, it's a nightmare when we have a crowd of 7/8000, I couldn't comprehend 20000. Also, wasn't it said somewhere, that it will cost more to redevelop than get a new stadium, something to with VAT? There is no VAT on newbuilds unless you opt to tax. That means that if redevelopment, then BRFC can reclaim all the VAT, but contractors charge more because they have to pay VAT. If newbuild it's VAT exempt so cheaper.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2017 17:02:48 GMT
This is uncomfortable viewing!
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Post by faggotygas on Aug 3, 2017 17:17:10 GMT
He's definitely, definitely setting it up for a redevelopment of the Mem. "Hamer: Alternative sites for the stadium in the area are very few and far between" That's what we'll do; cheap option as always. That's it then for this football club to be honest. League One football at best. Most likely L2/non-league. Get a ST this year if you haven't already as it's likely to be the highest standard of football you'll see from us for the next century or so. The club's ceiling has literally dropped by about 200,000ft overnight. We got to 'the championship' while at Twerton. Bournemouth are Prem. Burton are Championship. Scunthorpe were Championship with tiny gates. It's difficult but not impossible. Breifly, for us and Scunthorpe. Bournemouth and Burton have heavy external financing. Noone expects Burton to stay up in the long term. All unsustainable situations. Someone should tell our chairman what happened to Wimbledon.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 3, 2017 18:15:02 GMT
I would seriously ask Wael and co to reconsider negotiating with UWE again. This is going to rumble on for weeks now. if uwe are happy to negotiate call them out on it. Perhaps they are playing hard ball, if so, it's too early to approach them but perhaps they've already approached the club, live in hope and all that! I understand the main issue at the Mem is restrictive licensing rules meaning that no late night conferences/weddings etc can be held, I can't she how those rules can be overcome.
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Aug 3, 2017 18:17:59 GMT
It was clearly a case of just being forced to say something. I totally agree with you on all parts bar one thing - I think they very much have a plan B; re-develop the Mem. And I think that's what's already been agreed upon. They're just too scared to tell us as they know how f**ked off we'll all be. Hence I think the plan will be to go quiet for a few months in order to pretend they're researching alternative sites. They'll then come out and say that there's nothing fit for purpose available and basically say that we have no "choice" but to re-develop the Mem.That's how they'll play it - just you watch. I'll bump this thread in a few months time. No doubt it'll be following a decent league result. Evolution not revolution remember. The only difference is evolution actually happens (well apart from BS3 and surrounding areas) If Darwin had set sale for South Bristol instead of the Galapogas islands, his book would've be very different!
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Post by yattongas on Aug 3, 2017 18:26:45 GMT
I think SH was sent out as the sacrificial lamb. To be fair, he's not the decision maker. We should have heard from Wael and/or the AQ family. If the elder brother Hani is the money man would rather he spoke than Wael, we are a patient bunch Mangotsfield, Hallen, Fruit market, UWE have all fallen by the wayside. You missed out severnside
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Post by yategas78 on Aug 3, 2017 19:48:16 GMT
We are a bloody laughing stock!!
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