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Post by mariobalotelli on Aug 3, 2017 17:05:44 GMT
Adults writing nonsense like this. I predict you're 13. Did brfc_Transfers or Keith tell you that?
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Post by 84gas on Aug 3, 2017 17:06:45 GMT
Is it weird that im more confident of uwe happening than ever b4??
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Post by toddy1953 on Aug 3, 2017 17:06:49 GMT
Apologies for not posting this on another thread but I want the owners to see the title. In the last 24 hours the AQs as a family and Wael because he's part of that are showing what they really are. We've had our suspicions all was not well for months because of the lack of communication . But today we can lay our suspicions to rest. Because of the way they have conducted themselves today it's clear they have either lost interest in backing the club or don't have the wherewithal to do so. It won't wash that you as owners have had nothing to say today. You eventually put your puppet on display and he has no answers and uttered not one word of substance. All we got was his personal rhetoric and a disgraceful line about us becoming the new crazy gang. In other words a rag bag club in a rag bag stadium playing above our station! Where are you Wael? Show some leadership to the people who have idolised you. What little respect you are showing us today. Is it because you know we won't like the truth? Is it because we won't idolise you any more? Well that ship has sailed mucker so you or your brother better stop treating us with such little respect and start telling us what is really happening at our beloved football club! Right now you appear to be nothing more than Fake Sheiks who have bluffed, lied and blustered your way to a place well out of your depths and a place that could be fatal to our club. START TALKING. Sorry but this is reactionary nonsense. Just because a commercial property development deal has not come to pass does not mean someone is misrepresenting their worth or dedication to the football club. And what on earth is Steve Hamer's salary for if he isn't expected to be the one handling situations like have come up today. I truly hope Wael never sees this babyish talk or at least not until such time as it is actually warranted. I agree about the post being reactionary, and yes could have made the point a little more respectfully, but it's passionate, from a Gashead, who like many today - like me who have advocated patience, feel as though we have been led up the garden path & feel let down with how the club has handled the death throws of this saga. After reading SH comments today I feel his comments has only inflamed feelings.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Aug 3, 2017 17:08:31 GMT
Bit OTT to be honest.
We dont know enough facts to make these judgements.
IMO the corner NH painted us into with UWE was a bad deal for the current owners and maybe in the long run they are right to walk away.
That said, talk of tarting up the Mem as a plan B is an utter joke and SH is a busted flush in a lot of fans eyes now. Would have been much better if WAQ had fronted this one.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Aug 3, 2017 17:10:29 GMT
Ok, if no one from the club reads social media or this forum why the 11.30 announcement last night? Also, sure they employ Hamer as their mouth peice on day to day matters but this is not a day to day matter it's possibly the most important matter in the club's history. If it was good news today do you think for one minute that Hamer would have been the one in the public eye doing a press conference late in the day? Do you think Hamer would be the person on 20p's show tonight? Do you really think that? I have no idea whether or not anyone reads social media, much less do I care. I haven't mentioned that anywhere. Do I really think Hamer would have announced good news? Yes. But again that's totally irrelevant. It wasn't good news it was today's announcement. Why is it not Hamer's job to ... errr... do his job. The social media point was a response to those saying that the club doesn't engage with it. It clearly does. Anyway I think you are deliberately missing my point. Today is the worst news as a fanbase we have had since the AQ takeover and they are all hiding behind their puppet doing his job. It might well be what they pay him to do but you know and I know they should be very visible today. So like I said in the OP the fact they aren't shows what they are really like. They do not have the courage or the class to face the fans today and for that we should be very worried.
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Post by wiaww on Aug 3, 2017 17:11:06 GMT
This is so embarrassing.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2017 17:11:22 GMT
Apologies for not posting this on another thread but I want the owners to see the title. In the last 24 hours the AQs as a family and Wael because he's part of that are showing what they really are. We've had our suspicions all was not well for months because of the lack of communication . But today we can lay our suspicions to rest. Because of the way they have conducted themselves today it's clear they have either lost interest in backing the club or don't have the wherewithal to do so. It won't wash that you as owners have had nothing to say today. You eventually put your puppet on display and he has no answers and uttered not one word of substance. All we got was his personal rhetoric and a disgraceful line about us becoming the new crazy gang. In other words a rag bag club in a rag bag stadium playing above our station! Where are you Wael? Show some leadership to the people who have idolised you. What little respect you are showing us today. Is it because you know we won't like the truth? Is it because we won't idolise you any more? Well that ship has sailed mucker so you or your brother better stop treating us with such little respect and start telling us what is really happening at our beloved football club! Right now you appear to be nothing more than Fake Sheiks who have bluffed, lied and blustered your way to a place well out of your depths and a place that could be fatal to our club. START TALKING. Sorry but this is reactionary nonsense. Just because a commercial property development deal has not come to pass does not mean someone is misrepresenting their worth or dedication to the football club. And what on earth is Steve Hamer's salary for if he isn't expected to be the one handling situations like have come up today.
I truly hope Wael never sees this babyish talk or at least not until such time as it is actually warranted. I've been wondering the point of his salary for a while now, and did he really handle this situation today or just leave more questions? Big news like this though, in person or video link, has to be addressed from the top imo. Wael is quick to get in the limelight when things are going well, apparently not so much if it isnt.
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Post by LJG on Aug 3, 2017 17:15:55 GMT
I have no idea whether or not anyone reads social media, much less do I care. I haven't mentioned that anywhere. Do I really think Hamer would have announced good news? Yes. But again that's totally irrelevant. It wasn't good news it was today's announcement. Why is it not Hamer's job to ... errr... do his job. The social media point was a response to those saying that the club doesn't engage with it. It clearly does. Anyway I think you are deliberately missing my point. Today is the worst news as a fanbase we have had since the AQ takeover and they are all hiding behind their puppet doing his job. It might well be what they pay him to do but you know and I know they should be very visible today. So like I said in the OP the fact they aren't shows what they are really like. They do not have the courage or the class to face the fans today and for that we should be very worried. No I don't and no it doesn't. That's just your knee jerk reaction.
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Post by beaver132 on Aug 3, 2017 17:16:03 GMT
Sorry, for that's disrespectful nonesense. You simply don't know and neither do I. And because I don't know I won't insult anyone. Maybe you should do the same. When and if we all know the facts, through a public announcement that's when comments on insulting as this a allowed. By all means have a opinion, a best guess, but it needs to be respectful. If next week we see some great plans and cash invested in the future of the club, this thread will hang in Waels office as a reminder of how fickle we are as fans. Get a grip.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 3, 2017 17:16:25 GMT
Apologies for not posting this on another thread but I want the owners to see the title. In the last 24 hours the AQs as a family and Wael because he's part of that are showing what they really are. We've had our suspicions all was not well for months because of the lack of communication . But today we can lay our suspicions to rest. Because of the way they have conducted themselves today it's clear they have either lost interest in backing the club or don't have the wherewithal to do so. It won't wash that you as owners have had nothing to say today. You eventually put your puppet on display and he has no answers and uttered not one word of substance. All we got was his personal rhetoric and a disgraceful line about us becoming the new crazy gang. In other words a rag bag club in a rag bag stadium playing above our station! Where are you Wael? Show some leadership to the people who have idolised you. What little respect you are showing us today. Is it because you know we won't like the truth? Is it because we won't idolise you any more? Well that ship has sailed mucker so you or your brother better stop treating us with such little respect and start telling us what is really happening at our beloved football club! Right now you appear to be nothing more than Fake Sheiks who have bluffed, lied and blustered your way to a place well out of your depths and a place that could be fatal to our club. START TALKING.
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Post by LJG on Aug 3, 2017 17:20:22 GMT
Sorry but this is reactionary nonsense. Just because a commercial property development deal has not come to pass does not mean someone is misrepresenting their worth or dedication to the football club. And what on earth is Steve Hamer's salary for if he isn't expected to be the one handling situations like have come up today.
I truly hope Wael never sees this babyish talk or at least not until such time as it is actually warranted. I've been wondering the point of his salary for a while now, and did he really handle this situation today or just leave more questions?Big news like this though, in person or video link, has to be addressed from the top imo. Wael is quick to get in the limelight when things are going well, apparently not so much if it isnt. Tell me what he could have said that wouldn't have left more questions. Read the Hamer on 20man thread, every other post is someone trying to reinterpret what he's saying and pretending there's hidden meaning to everything. To pull out of a deal you don't have to know what your next deal will be. You just have to be able to consider your options, Which is why you pull out of the deal in the first place. People acting like babies because they want daddy to tell them everything is ok. We are customers of a business, we have the same right to know the internal dealings of that business as anyone with an iPhone does about the internal affairs at Apple.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Aug 3, 2017 17:25:47 GMT
Sorry, for that's disrespectful nonesense. You simply don't know and neither do I. And because I don't know I won't insult anyone. Maybe you should do the same. When and if we all know the facts, through a public announcement that's when comments on insulting as this a allowed. By all means have a opinion, a best guess, but it needs to be respectful. If next week we see some great plans and cash invested in the future of the club, this thread will hang in Waels office as a reminder of how fickle we are as fans. Get a grip. My point Beaver is that today is the day we needed to hear from the organ grinder not the monkey. All the monkey has done has added more questions and talked about us becoming a rag bag crazy gang. I and I'm sure others could quickly change my opinion as expressed in the title of this thread but not if they refuse to communicate!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2017 17:31:37 GMT
I've been wondering the point of his salary for a while now, and did he really handle this situation today or just leave more questions?Big news like this though, in person or video link, has to be addressed from the top imo. Wael is quick to get in the limelight when things are going well, apparently not so much if it isnt. Tell me what he could have said that wouldn't have left more questions. Read the Hamer on 20man thread, every other post is someone trying to reinterpret what he's saying and pretending there's hidden meaning to everything. To pull out of a deal you don't have to know what your next deal will be. You just have to be able to consider your options, Which is why you pull out of the deal in the first place. People acting like babies because they want daddy to tell them everything is ok. We are customers of a business, we have the same right to know the internal dealings of that business as anyone with an iPhone does about the internal affairs at Apple. It would have been nice to at least know why its taken 18 months to get to this point, yet they blame inheriting the deal which they could have pulled out of from day 1. In the end, the Wimbledon Crazy gang comment made everything else Hamer said seem less plausible than usual, and his knowledge of football well behind the level it should be for someone in his position. Buckle was slated for asking fans to lower their expectations, this comment was effectively doing the same. If we was given any direction for his answers, it would have been to make it sound like he is giving answers without actually giving anything at all. Oh well on to the next project that ends in failure, its the only constant in being a Rovers fan.
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Post by LJG on Aug 3, 2017 17:38:34 GMT
Tell me what he could have said that wouldn't have left more questions. Read the Hamer on 20man thread, every other post is someone trying to reinterpret what he's saying and pretending there's hidden meaning to everything. To pull out of a deal you don't have to know what your next deal will be. You just have to be able to consider your options, Which is why you pull out of the deal in the first place. People acting like babies because they want daddy to tell them everything is ok. We are customers of a business, we have the same right to know the internal dealings of that business as anyone with an iPhone does about the internal affairs at Apple. It would have been nice to at least know why its taken 18 months to get to this point, yet they blame inheriting the deal which they could have pulled out of from day 1.In the end, the Wimbledon Crazy gang comment made everything else Hamer said seem less plausible than usual, and his knowledge of football well behind the level it should be for someone in his position. Buckle was slated for asking fans to lower their expectations, this comment was effectively doing the same. If we was given any direction for his answers, it would have been to make it sound like he is giving answers without actually giving anything at all. Oh well on to the next project that ends in failure, its the only constant in being a Rovers fan. I don't understand what would satisfy you on this point? You want a blow by blow account of every exchange. He addresses this multiple times. The terms couldn't be agreed, they went back and forth so many times it was like a clock pendulum, They gave UWE heads of terms and a deadline to agree them by and UWE didn't meet them. All Hamer's words. What further detail would you like to have had? The Crazy Gang thing ... hey people sweat in front of a live microphone to a couple of thousand listeners and blurt out stupid sh1te. It doesn't unsay everything they've said up until that point.
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Post by peterparker on Aug 3, 2017 17:39:21 GMT
Sorry, for that's disrespectful nonesense. You simply don't know and neither do I. And because I don't know I won't insult anyone. Maybe you should do the same. When and if we all know the facts, through a public announcement that's when comments on insulting as this a allowed. By all means have a opinion, a best guess, but it needs to be respectful. If next week we see some great plans and cash invested in the future of the club, this thread will hang in Waels office as a reminder of how fickle we are as fans. Get a grip. My point Beaver is that today is the day we needed to hear from the organ grinder not the monkey. All the monkey has done has added more questions and talked about us becoming a rag bag crazy gang. I and I'm sure others could quickly change my opinion as expressed in the title of this thread but not if they refuse to communicate! The face of the family is on f**king holiday. Perhaps he wasnt avaialbe
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 3, 2017 17:43:44 GMT
You just got to see Wael and see the enthusiasm and passion he has for the club, and when you see that, I have no doubt that the club's in good hands, - Tom Lockyer.
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Post by pirate on Aug 3, 2017 17:46:13 GMT
Sorry, for that's disrespectful nonesense. You simply don't know and neither do I. And because I don't know I won't insult anyone. Maybe you should do the same. When and if we all know the facts, through a public announcement that's when comments on insulting as this a allowed. By all means have a opinion, a best guess, but it needs to be respectful. If next week we see some great plans and cash invested in the future of the club, this thread will hang in Waels office as a reminder of how fickle we are as fans. Get a grip. My point Beaver is that today is the day we needed to hear from the organ grinder not the monkey. All the monkey has done has added more questions and talked about us becoming a rag bag crazy gang. I and I'm sure others could quickly change my opinion as expressed in the title of this thread but not if they refuse to communicate! Well, we do have the ground for it. Bit of a pain in the balls though.
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Post by Marshy on Aug 3, 2017 17:46:57 GMT
f**k this I'm off to the Gentlemans lounge to blow off some steam, anyone care to join me?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2017 17:51:39 GMT
It would have been nice to at least know why its taken 18 months to get to this point, yet they blame inheriting the deal which they could have pulled out of from day 1.In the end, the Wimbledon Crazy gang comment made everything else Hamer said seem less plausible than usual, and his knowledge of football well behind the level it should be for someone in his position. Buckle was slated for asking fans to lower their expectations, this comment was effectively doing the same. If we was given any direction for his answers, it would have been to make it sound like he is giving answers without actually giving anything at all. Oh well on to the next project that ends in failure, its the only constant in being a Rovers fan. I don't understand what would satisfy you on this point? You want a blow by blow account of every exchange. He addresses this multiple times. The terms couldn't be agreed, they went back and forth so many times it was like a clock pendulum, They gave UWE heads of terms and a deadline to agree them by and UWE didn't meet them. All Hamer's words. What further detail would you like to have had? The Crazy Gang thing ... hey people sweat in front of a live microphone to a couple of thousand listeners and blurt out stupid sh1te. It doesn't unsay everything they've said up until that point. 18 months seems a long time to decide this wasn't worth pursuing, especially as they seem burdened with the deal when they (Wael and family) arrived. If Hamer sweats and says stupid irrelevant things when put under pressure by the press then maybe he should find another job. It was almost like he was trying to divert from the fact he didnt have a clue, not that it normally bothers him.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Aug 3, 2017 17:52:19 GMT
My point Beaver is that today is the day we needed to hear from the organ grinder not the monkey. All the monkey has done has added more questions and talked about us becoming a rag bag crazy gang. I and I'm sure others could quickly change my opinion as expressed in the title of this thread but not if they refuse to communicate! The face of the family is on f**king holiday. Perhaps he wasnt avaialbe What? Do people cease to exist when they are on holiday? When something big "metaphorically" blows up do for example relevant government ministers stay invisible? On the face of things this is a very bad day for our FC and you think it's ok for the owners to stay silent because they might be on holiday? Was Hani on holiday last night when he sent his e mail from Jordan pulling the plug? Is he on holiday today? Is Wael completely oblivious to what's going on because he's on holiday? Would Wael have been happy to be on the end of a telephone to Radio Bristol today from his holiday if he had news he knew we'd want to hear?
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