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Post by GasAttacK on Aug 6, 2017 15:14:32 GMT
I personally don't think we were awful yesterday but it wasn't great and we lacked the creative flair needed to open up a solid Charlton defence.
We only have 2 first team wingers after releasing Montana and I'm far from convinced Moore is good enough or even an improvement on Monty. When Bodin is off form we have no one else capable of doing something special to create a chance or score a goal. We need a winger like Carayol and Ricky Holmes to give us more options going forward. Now I know neither of those are going to be heading to the Mem but who could we realistically get to play on the left?
Another position I feel we need to strengthen is up front. We have zero threat in the air so even if we improve our crosses I can't see who is going to head them in. This is a worry because DC has signed Telford who is another small striker but I personally feel we need a strong physical presence up front who can hold up the ball and be a threat from crosses and set pieces. Do you think there is any chance we might bring another striker? Who are the realistic targets?
I know he spoke about a defensive midfielder but if we can only bring in 2 then I think a left winger and powerful striker would be my choice. What do you think?
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 6, 2017 15:17:38 GMT
We need a Carayol and Lambert basically.
I also think we are desperately short out wide. We only have Bodin who is a proven league one winger and even he is not an out and out winger.
Jury is out on Moore. I think he improved last season but is an average league one player at best. Broom is very inexperienced, although he has potential I wouldn't want to throw him in too much at the moment.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 6, 2017 15:25:27 GMT
ANybody know what's happened to Moore, I assume injured, which is hardly promising what he's going to be more consistent than last season.
As far as wanting a winger & CF unless Wael decides to distract all the UWE moaning by giving DC a big budget then it looks like young loan players are now the best we'll get, although I'd be surprised if we sign another striker after getting Telford in last week, as didn't DC say last weekend he wanted a CF (Sweeney), a striker (Telford) a LW & a defensive CM? Personally I'd forget the latter and get a CF.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 6, 2017 15:33:26 GMT
ANybody know what's happened to Moore, I assume injured, which is hardly promising what he's going to be more consistent than last season. As far as wanting a winger & CF unless Wael decides to distract all the UWE moaning by giving DC a big budget then it looks like young loan players are now the best we'll get, although I'd be surprised if we sign another striker after getting Telford in last week, as didn't DC say last weekend he wanted a CF (Sweeney), a striker (Telford) a LW & a defensive CM? Personally I'd forget the latter and get a CF. I'd have to agree with you Topper. I think we're pretty covered in CM. In fact DC already struggled to find a way of putting all 4 cm's in the team yesterday. As regards CF, we shouldn't really need one tbh. But we do as the reality is that it is questionable if Ellis and Gaffney are good enough. |
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Post by DTGas on Aug 6, 2017 15:36:25 GMT
ANybody know what's happened to Moore, I assume injured, which is hardly promising what he's going to be more consistent than last season. As far as wanting a winger & CF unless Wael decides to distract all the UWE moaning by giving DC a big budget then it looks like young loan players are now the best we'll get, although I'd be surprised if we sign another striker after getting Telford in last week, as didn't DC say last weekend he wanted a CF (Sweeney), a striker (Telford) a LW & a defensive CM? Personally I'd forget the latter and get a CF. DC said yesterday that Moore had a slight groin injury but should be back soon |
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Post by pirate on Aug 6, 2017 15:49:15 GMT
I agree, a left winger and striker are needed. I don't want to keep repeating myself, but the players I would target are Corey Whitely, Harry Forrester, Patrick Schmidt and George Hirst.
Whitely would be perfect for the left wing cutting inside - decent with both feet, versatile, tricky, pacey, creative and an eye for goal.
Schmidt is 6ft 1in, good in the air, decent pace, can bring others into play and can score off both feet.
Forrester can play either side, decent with both feet, tricky, creative and an eye for goal.
Hirst is 6ft 3in, deceptively quick, can bring others into play and score all types of goals.
The winger would be my priority, but we also need more of a presence and goal threat up front too.
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Post by GasAttacK on Aug 6, 2017 15:53:24 GMT
Yes, Lambert and Carayol would do nicely.
I also agree DC should forget the DM and bring in a powerful striker. It's obvious a striker in the Lambert mold would be more beneficial to us at this point. If there really isn't the budget maybe he should consider loaning out Harrison or Gaffney so he can free up some wages and get the striker we need. Is Lambert a possibilty? Am I right in thinking he doesn't have a club?
Getting Carayol back would be even better but I can't see that happening unfortunately.
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Post by pirate on Aug 6, 2017 15:57:20 GMT
Yes, Lambert is a free agent still. If his wages were realistic I'd sign him.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 6, 2017 15:59:45 GMT
Another thing with Lambert is that we are lacking leadership and a definite spine IMO.
Lambert would give us a lot. One worry is that we do lack a bit of pace in the team. Lambert does need some pace rohnd him.
But Lambert and Nichols up front would excite me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 17:08:27 GMT
Yes, Lambert is a free agent still. If his wages were realistic I'd sign him. id make an offer of what we can afford with a release clause that if he can go elsewhere and get paid more in the championship then he can do so! We may as well benefit in the short term whilst keeping him match fit! He's a gas legend and scored a winner v city - use your noggin DC and wael - it would give us all a massive lift and would be a win win offer! |
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Post by singupgas on Aug 6, 2017 17:27:52 GMT
Yes, Lambert is a free agent still. If his wages were realistic I'd sign him. id make an offer of what we can afford with a release clause that if he can go elsewhere and get paid more in the championship then he can do so! We may as well benefit in the short term whilst keeping him match fit! He's a gas legend and scored a winner v city - use your noggin DC and wael - it would give us all a massive lift and would be a win win offer! definitely bring in lambo would be a big boost for us. we do lack leadership. Nicholsor Telford with Lambert would excite many fans in what has turned in to something of a dark period |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 17:33:09 GMT
id make an offer of what we can afford with a release clause that if he can go elsewhere and get paid more in the championship then he can do so! We may as well benefit in the short term whilst keeping him match fit! He's a gas legend and scored a winner v city - use your noggin DC and wael - it would give us all a massive lift and would be a win win offer! definitely bring in lambo would be a big boost for us. we do lack leadership. Nicholsor Telford with Lambert would excite many fans in what has turned in to something of a dark period part of me likes to think lambert would say yes to us even if the wages weren't the best! |
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Post by peterhooper57 on Aug 6, 2017 17:36:04 GMT
I personally don't think we were awful yesterday but it wasn't great and we lacked the creative flair needed to open up a solid Charlton defence. We only have 2 first team wingers after releasing Montana and I'm far from convinced Moore is good enough or even an improvement on Monty. When Bodin is off form we have no one else capable of doing something special to create a chance or score a goal. We need a winger like Carayol and Ricky Holmes to give us more options going forward. Now I know neither of those are going to be heading to the Mem but who could we realistically get to play on the left? Another position I feel we need to strengthen is up front. We have zero threat in the air so even if we improve our crosses I can't see who is going to head them in. This is a worry because DC has signed Telford who is another small striker but I personally feel we need a strong physical presence up front who can hold up the ball and be a threat from crosses and set pieces. Do you think there is any chance we might bring another striker? Who are the realistic targets? I know he spoke about a defensive midfielder but if we can only bring in 2 then I think a left winger and powerful striker would be my choice. What do you think? DC thought we were awful and he was spot on. Need to bring in Lambert and a decent winger, although you could have wally on wing and neither Ellis or gafney are going to score many. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 6, 2017 17:47:29 GMT
Possibly chicken & egg situation though as we create so little away from home its hard to work if they are that poor. Even Bodin looked poor yesterday.
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Post by GasAttacK on Aug 6, 2017 17:49:38 GMT
I personally don't think we were awful yesterday but it wasn't great and we lacked the creative flair needed to open up a solid Charlton defence. We only have 2 first team wingers after releasing Montana and I'm far from convinced Moore is good enough or even an improvement on Monty. When Bodin is off form we have no one else capable of doing something special to create a chance or score a goal. We need a winger like Carayol and Ricky Holmes to give us more options going forward. Now I know neither of those are going to be heading to the Mem but who could we realistically get to play on the left? Another position I feel we need to strengthen is up front. We have zero threat in the air so even if we improve our crosses I can't see who is going to head them in. This is a worry because DC has signed Telford who is another small striker but I personally feel we need a strong physical presence up front who can hold up the ball and be a threat from crosses and set pieces. Do you think there is any chance we might bring another striker? Who are the realistic targets? I know he spoke about a defensive midfielder but if we can only bring in 2 then I think a left winger and powerful striker would be my choice. What do you think? DC thought we were awful and he was spot on. Need to bring in Lambert and a decent winger, although you could have wally on wing and neither Ellis or gafney are going to score many. I agree about Ellis and Rory. In fact as I said in my OP I doubt any of our strikers will score a headed goal this season. They'll certainly be few and far between. The crossing was generally poor but as you say, even if we sign the quality left winger we desperately need and the delivery improves we don't have anyone to get on the end of them. We had 9 corners and I don't think we won a single header? That's why I said if money is tight and we can only bring in 2 more before 31/8 it needs to be a left winger and powerful striker. We can manage without the defensive midfielder DC talked about. |
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Post by strads1983 on Aug 6, 2017 19:34:30 GMT
You only have to look at the other goal scorers who scored in the league for other clubs on Saturday, mostly out and out dangerous goal scorers. We need a goal scorer who can score a goal out of nothing and score 20 a season, we don't have one and until we do we won't win games like the Charlton game.
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Post by pirate on Aug 6, 2017 19:41:55 GMT
You only have to look at the other goal scorers who scored in the league for other clubs on Saturday, mostly out and out dangerous goal scorers. We need a goal scorer who can score a goal out of nothing and score 20 a season, we don't have one and until we do we won't win games like the Charlton game. Most of the better ones have already been snapped up this summer, McAleny for example, who scored 2 yesterday. Beckford also scored the winner for Bury, but of course he's past it now according to some on here. We obviously weren't prepared to pay the wages required for the better players, despite the top six budget guff we were fed. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 6, 2017 19:47:40 GMT
You only have to look at the other goal scorers who scored in the league for other clubs on Saturday, mostly out and out dangerous goal scorers. We need a goal scorer who can score a goal out of nothing and score 20 a season, we don't have one and until we do we won't win games like the Charlton game. Most of the better ones have already been snapped up this summer, McAleny for example, who scored 2 yesterday. Beckford also scored the winner for Bury, but of course he's past it now according to some on here. We obviously weren't prepared to pay the wages required for the better players, despite the top six budget guff we were fed. You can hardly say Beckford is a good signing after one game but even if he turns out to be one would he really want to play in the west country, when he most likely lives in the north west? Given you seem to have a good understanding of football surely you must realise there's more to signing a player than just offering him a decent contract, plus we've no idea if DC's been given that much money anyway. |
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Post by madgas on Aug 6, 2017 19:53:27 GMT
I think over the season it'll prove that we're alright upfront.
100% believe we need a left winger.
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Aug 6, 2017 19:55:28 GMT
You only have to look at the other goal scorers who scored in the league for other clubs on Saturday, mostly out and out dangerous goal scorers. We need a goal scorer who can score a goal out of nothing and score 20 a season, we don't have one and until we do we won't win games like the Charlton game. Even someone like James Collins at Luton. Said at the time that he'd have been a good signing for us. Pretty much scored goals wherever he's been. |
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