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Post by holderz on Aug 21, 2017 10:42:32 GMT
After one game which he done ok and didn't score everyone is now team Harrison...so thickle..he'll have a shocker and miss a sitter and the same people will be cheering him off again.. Basically if we are to survive or become a top six contender Ellis Harrison isn't the man to put us there fact...his goal scoring record is bad and some of them are penalties so not in open play... So if we're gonna play him it's for getting the ball down and drag defenders to allow others to be played in and he's the worst at all of that out of him and gaffney, as long as Ellis starts we are always gonna be playing to a disadvantage Yeth I agwee. Sorry pal, opinion not fact.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Aug 21, 2017 10:55:29 GMT
Sorry pal, opinion not fact. *thact
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 12:07:35 GMT
After one game which he done ok and didn't score everyone is now team Harrison...so thickle..he'll have a shocker and miss a sitter and the same people will be cheering him off again.. Basically if we are to survive or become a top six contender Ellis Harrison isn't the man to put us there fact...his goal scoring record is bad and some of them are penalties so not in open play... So if we're gonna play him it's for getting the ball down and drag defenders to allow others to be played in and he's the worst at all of that out of him and gaffney, as long as Ellis starts we are always gonna be playing to a disadvantage I've always been Team Harrison, however, that doesn't stop me seeing the negative points of his game. From reading the reports v Bury, DC was correct to persevere with Ellis. We have no idea what DC sees in training, maybe Harrison, Bodin and Nichols look as though they could be a frontline to be reckoned with, and he wants to run with it for a few games? It's good that Gaffney and Telford are pushing for starting places - everybody has to up their game. Wouldn't be surprised to see a different forward line on Tuesday. DC is not perfect, he'll get some things wrong, but on the whole his decisions have served us fairly well over the last 3 seasons.
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Post by baggins on Aug 21, 2017 12:28:26 GMT
After one game which he done ok and didn't score everyone is now team Harrison...so thickle..he'll have a shocker and miss a sitter and the same people will be cheering him off again.. Basically if we are to survive or become a top six contender Ellis Harrison isn't the man to put us there fact...his goal scoring record is bad and some of them are penalties so not in open play... So if we're gonna play him it's for getting the ball down and drag defenders to allow others to be played in and he's the worst at all of that out of him and gaffney, as long as Ellis starts we are always gonna be playing to a disadvantage I've always been Team Harrison, however, that doesn't stop me seeing the negative points of his game. From reading the reports v Bury, DC was correct to persevere with Ellis. We have no idea what DC sees in training, maybe Harrison, Bodin and Nichols look as though they could be a frontline to be reckoned with, and he wants to run with it for a few games? It's good that Gaffney and Telford are pushing for starting places - everybody has to up their game. Wouldn't be surprised to see a different forward line on Tuesday. DC is not perfect, he'll get some things wrong, but on the whole his decisions have served us fairly well over the last 3 seasons. I'd love to shout his praises, and to make it clear, I do NOT shout abuse at him during the 90mins, but it really is about time he started making the most of his contract.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 13:00:45 GMT
Like I said previously in my post he lacks confidence Do I think he's good enough at this level ? Answer Yes he's shown what he can do and what he's capable of when he's on form Do I think he good enough for starting lineup? Answer No think he makes more of an impact as a sub would rather see him come on for the last 20 minutes and run himself to the ground chasing every ball than 60 mins of doing f all
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Post by baggins on Aug 21, 2017 13:05:53 GMT
Like I said previously in my post he lacks confidence Do I think he's good enough at this level ? Answer Yes he's shown what he can do and what he's capable of when he's on form Do I think he good enough for starting lineup? Answer No think he makes more of an impact as a sub would rather see him come on for the last 20 minutes and run himself to the ground chasing every ball than 60 mins of doing f all Seeing as he's only got 20 minutes of running in him that's not a bad shout.
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Post by peterparker on Aug 21, 2017 15:00:44 GMT
After one game which he done ok and didn't score everyone is now team Harrison...so thickle..he'll have a shocker and miss a sitter and the same people will be cheering him off again.. Basically if we are to survive or become a top six contender Ellis Harrison isn't the man to put us there fact...his goal scoring record is bad and some of them are penalties so not in open play... So if we're gonna play him it's for getting the ball down and drag defenders to allow others to be played in and he's the worst at all of that out of him and gaffney, as long as Ellis starts we are always gonna be playing to a disadvantage I've always been Team Harrison, however, that doesn't stop me seeing the negative points of his game. From reading the reports v Bury, DC was correct to persevere with Ellis. We have no idea what DC sees in training, maybe Harrison, Bodin and Nichols look as though they could be a frontline to be reckoned with, and he wants to run with it for a few games? It's good that Gaffney and Telford are pushing for starting places - everybody has to up their game. Wouldn't be surprised to see a different forward line on Tuesday. DC is not perfect, he'll get some things wrong, but on the whole his decisions have served us fairly well over the last 3 seasons. what, give a front 3 a few games to work together and not write them off after 45 minutes.
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Post by whoblue on Aug 21, 2017 15:14:20 GMT
Like I said previously in my post he lacks confidence Do I think he's good enough at this level ? Answer Yes he's shown what he can do and what he's capable of when he's on form Do I think he good enough for starting lineup? Answer No think he makes more of an impact as a sub would rather see him come on for the last 20 minutes and run himself to the ground chasing every ball than 60 mins of doing f all Like I said previously in my post he lacks confidence ability at this level... fixed that for you Do I think he's good enough at this level ? Answer Yes he's shown what he can do...when? and what he's capable of when he's on form... are you suggesting he's out of form? if so, in your opinion, how long has he been out of form? Have you ever considered what we see from him week-in, week-out is his form!?! Do I think he good enough for starting lineup? Answer No think he makes more of an impact as a sub would rather see him come on for the last 20 minutes and run himself to the ground chasing every ball than 60 mins of doing f all Agreed... although his best position would be up front, for someone else, probably non-league from what I've seen of him. Also, he's rarely seen 'running himself to the ground' or chasing any ball, let alone 'EVERY" ball.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 15:26:35 GMT
Like I said previously in my post he lacks confidence Do I think he's good enough at this level ? Answer Yes he's shown what he can do and what he's capable of when he's on form Do I think he good enough for starting lineup? Answer No think he makes more of an impact as a sub would rather see him come on for the last 20 minutes and run himself to the ground chasing every ball than 60 mins of doing f all Like I said previously in my post he lacks confidence ability at this level... fixed that for you Do I think he's good enough at this level ? Answer Yes he's shown what he can do...when? and what he's capable of when he's on form... are you suggesting he's out of form? if so, in your opinion, how long has he been out of form? Have you ever considered what we see from him week-in, week-out is his form!?! Do I think he good enough for starting lineup? Answer No think he makes more of an impact as a sub would rather see him come on for the last 20 minutes and run himself to the ground chasing every ball than 60 mins of doing f all Agreed... although his best position would be up front, for someone else, probably non-league from what I've seen of him. Also, he's rarely seen 'running himself to the ground' or chasing any ball, let alone 'EVERY" ball.
Ellis has never won me over to be fair despite the odd good performance; I think he will go down as one who never applied himself to make it in the game at a decent level.
Its strange as he has had more opportunities than most youngsters who put in 6/10 performances on a consistent basis and I'd echo that he is more effective as a sub.
I think he sounds like a confident lad when I have see interviews from him so im not sure that is an issue, its just his application imo.
Certainly Gaffney will always offer more from a starting role with the added bonus in that he will shag your wife and give you the night off
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 16:32:25 GMT
personally I think people are blinkered with Ellis with some perceived lazy tag and/or so say not playing well regularly enough.
If he was that lazy, he wouldn't get in a DC team and his defensive work (often ignored by most) would counter the lazy tag
Tuesday night people were still criticising him despite being no better or worse than the rest of the team and actually scoring. People never say he had an ok game, or he was as good as anyone else. Unless the lad has a blinder, some people will say he wasn't good enough full stop.
I am not saying there aren't times he doesn't deserve criticism, but to me it seems like the bloke can't do right for doing wrong. Some people must be obsessed to end up with bollox like slagging him off, for daring to watch City with his mates for instance
Don't forget going to chasers ! Seriously, a good few had it in for him after that When was that jools? I can't recall him ever been seen in kingswood as he doesn't live in the area. Are you sure you are not confusing him with either Stewart or Bryant who were regularly seen there
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 17:57:57 GMT
Don't forget going to chasers ! Seriously, a good few had it in for him after that When was that jools? I can't recall him ever been seen in kingswood as he doesn't live in the area. Are you sure you are not confusing him with either Stewart or Bryant who were regularly seen there Ellis lived in kingswood for a while.
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Post by 1883kinhswoodgas on Aug 21, 2017 18:51:21 GMT
When was that jools? I can't recall him ever been seen in kingswood as he doesn't live in the area. Are you sure you are not confusing him with either Stewart or Bryant who were regularly seen there Ellis lived in kingswood for a while. Relegation season there was a group of them up there often, I criticised them as being stupid for going to somewhere like chasers that's full of rovers fans after we were playing crap every week, no problem with anyone having a good time just be sensible about where you do it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 9:30:19 GMT
When was that jools? I can't recall him ever been seen in kingswood as he doesn't live in the area. Are you sure you are not confusing him with either Stewart or Bryant who were regularly seen there Ellis lived in kingswood for a while. When was that because he has been sharing with lockyer for some time now
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 9:32:49 GMT
Ellis lived in kingswood for a while. Relegation season there was a group of them up there often, I criticised them as being stupid for going to somewhere like chasers that's full of rovers fans after we were playing crap every week, no problem with anyone having a good time just be sensible about where you do it. Here we go again Ellis was with a group of rovers players but once again he is singled out. The kid can't win and the sooner his agent realises it is in his players best interest to get him away the better
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 11:37:16 GMT
Ellis lived in kingswood for a while. When was that because he has been sharing with lockyer for some time now I'd have to guess about 4 years ago? Lived in one of the new flats behind Kingswood park. (Summit Club)
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Post by 1883kinhswoodgas on Aug 22, 2017 11:40:09 GMT
Relegation season there was a group of them up there often, I criticised them as being stupid for going to somewhere like chasers that's full of rovers fans after we were playing crap every week, no problem with anyone having a good time just be sensible about where you do it. Here we go again Ellis was with a group of rovers players but once again he is singled out. The kid can't win and the sooner his agent realises it is in his players best interest to get him away the better Where have I singled him out?
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Post by 1883kinhswoodgas on Aug 22, 2017 11:40:39 GMT
When was that because he has been sharing with lockyer for some time now I'd have to guess about 4 years ago? Lived in one of the new flats behind Kingswood park. (Summit Club) Relegation season so 2013/14 with woodards and clucas
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 11:44:04 GMT
I always thought Ellis and Tom lived in either Westbury-On-Trym or Coombe Dingle?
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Post by 1883kinhswoodgas on Aug 22, 2017 11:52:24 GMT
I always thought Ellis and Tom lived in either Westbury-On-Trym or Coombe Dingle? Might be the case now but not a little while ago
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 15:19:22 GMT
Here we go again Ellis was with a group of rovers players but once again he is singled out. The kid can't win and the sooner his agent realises it is in his players best interest to get him away the better Where have I singled him out? Not aimed at you aimed at KP. Who stated he was out drinking in chasers the inference being he was on his own not with a number of fellow players and at that time he was only 18.none of us were that author faith with adult requirements at 18
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