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Post by LJG on Aug 26, 2017 8:29:14 GMT
The Al-Qadis have failed to achieve the one thing that would have secured the stability and prosperity of the football club for decades to come and most importantly provide Bristol City with credible competition which is absolutely essential imo. Unless they can come up with some believable explanation of why the UWE deal was so terrible for the club and the fans - not just the requirements of the family - they have certainly lost my support of them. If there are others waiting in the wings who seriously want to build a healthy business collaboration between the football club, UWE and South Glos, the Al-Qadis should do the honourable thing; stop feeding the fans with improbable fantasies and step aside, sooner rather than later. Hahaha brilliant. You think it's more important that the Al Qadis step aside for a group of made up, make believe investors than it is that this group of made up, make believe investors prove to anyone that they even exist. Fantastic.
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Post by LJG on Aug 26, 2017 8:31:34 GMT
Well, I've heard of throwing your toys out the pram, but blimey. Unless they can prove to you to your satisfaction why they didn't do exactly what you wanted them to do, exactly when you wanted it, with the explanation that you demand (even though everyone agrees there is a confidentiality agreement and so this would be illegal anyway) then you refuse to support them. Even though every other board had collectively forty years to sort this out, and the new regime has only been here 18 months and were working on a deal they didn't even put together. Obviously you can support who you want for whatever reasons, but demanding the board step aside coz they don't do exactly what you want makes you look about 12. Honestly, I don't really get why we keep going through this. Why won't they tell us exactly why this deal didn't work? Coz of the confidentiality agreement. Yeah, but they could just tell us. No, there's a confidentiality agreement. But can't they just tell us? No. Why not? Coz that's what a confidentiality agreement is. But they won't tell us. Yes, because of the confidentiality agreement. So, they must have something to hide. Why. Coz they won't tell us. etc... I'm not sure how far confidentiality clauses go Conversation ends.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 26, 2017 8:34:28 GMT
To be fair to NH we knew full well why the previous Mem development and UWE Stadium projects bit the dust. Only when it went to court / planning (which are necessarily public). Had the UWE/Wael differences gone to court we would know all about them, too.
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Post by garystash on Aug 26, 2017 8:38:20 GMT
Think I will stick with this forum after reading the musings of the experts on that forum, makes you want to lose the will to live. Must be something in the air over there! After reading that am wondering if I turn up Saturday will I find the Mem gates locked and a notice telling me BRFC no longer exists. UTG! Thing is some of what is being said makes sense, although something seems to be missing that makes none of it make any sense
It's accepted that some people haven't been paid (Wael basically said it in his interview). The reasons as to why appear to be cloudy at best, but it appears to be do to with the training ground. People know the people not being paid because they are Gasheads.
I have no problem Rovers pulling out of UWE if it was a bad deal, but it would be interesting to know why it was such a bad deal. It must be that bad to pull out of a shiny stadium that in theory is supposed to generate money and one that apparently had finance in place, in order to so say start from scratch at The Mem which will probably require a bigger outlay with no asset to sell to off set against the cost
I can't get my head around any of it. Part of the jigsaw is missing somewhere. It's like having all the squares in catchphrase but missing the square that gives the answer away For me it all makes sense. You just have to view it such that Wael is bending the truth when he says the finance is in place. Hope I'm wrong, but I don't think our Mem upgrade is going to be what everyone expects. It'll be something much more affordable. Still, think I'd rather that than the club is bought by a UWE based consortium who's priorities are to progress the university rather than the football club.
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Post by oldgas on Aug 26, 2017 8:48:55 GMT
The suggestion on the OF is that it's The Colony fence contractors who've not been paid, with Hani pulling the plug on any future investment on the training ground. The contractors are apparently Gasheads so you'd assume there's some truth in the story. "Harry Buckle" who's a well known Gashead, posted something on the OF which seems to back up the OP if true: "I understand Wael is not back till Blackpool match. Does anyone know if he consortium offer for the Club on Tuesday is progressing ? If their second bid is turned down they are apparently going to the Press. They in conjunction the UWE want to proceed with the Stadium." I have had a look on the Independent forum and couldn't find the threads you are referring to. Can you post a link so I can read it through? Thank you. Thanks for directing me to the correct thread Topper. I can't believe that more hasn't been made of this on the forums, because it's dynamite! I would like to ask Harry Buckle how much he knows about the consortium, and how he knows about 2 apparent offers made for the club. I assume that, as a Rovers fan this isn't entirely made up BS ( no, stick with me) because what would be the point? So, Harry, if you read this forum I would be hugely interested to read what you know, taking confidentiality into account, of course. On another note, I'm surprised Gasincider hasn't posted regarding these developments.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 26, 2017 8:58:42 GMT
I have had a look on the Independent forum and couldn't find the threads you are referring to. Can you post a link so I can read it through? Thank you. Thanks for directing me to the correct thread Topper. I can't believe that more hasn't been made of this on the forums, because it's dynamite! I would like to ask Harry Buckle how much he knows about the consortium, and how he knows about 2 apparent offers made for the club. I assume that, as a Rovers fan this isn't entirely made up BS ( no, stick with me) because what would be the point? So, Harry, if you read this forum I would be hugely interested to read what you know, taking confidentiality into account, of course. On another note, I'm surprised Gasincider hasn't posted regarding these developments.
Maybe they are the same person
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Post by LJG on Aug 26, 2017 8:58:55 GMT
I have had a look on the Independent forum and couldn't find the threads you are referring to. Can you post a link so I can read it through? Thank you. Thanks for directing me to the correct thread Topper. I can't believe that more hasn't been made of this on the forums, because it's dynamite! I would like to ask Harry Buckle how much he knows about the consortium, and how he knows about 2 apparent offers made for the club. I assume that, as a Rovers fan this isn't entirely made up BS ( no, stick with me) because what would be the point? So, Harry, if you read this forum I would be hugely interested to read what you know, taking confidentiality into account, of course. On another note, I'm surprised Gasincider hasn't posted regarding these developments.He's still trying to think up a really good one. Who knows what he'll "hear" in The Corridors of Power today.
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Post by gasincider on Aug 26, 2017 9:02:14 GMT
We keep getting told by Antonio that nothing can be said due to confidentiality clauses. So why did we get told that UWE kept revisiting points we thought we had agreed? Were they not covered by confidentiality clauses?
Or is it only the ones that tell us the real reason why we pulled the plug that are covered by such clauses?
With regard to what's happening, I bow to Harry Buckles knowledge, and of course Lordjusticegasheads.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 26, 2017 9:02:41 GMT
Thanks for directing me to the correct thread Topper. I can't believe that more hasn't been made of this on the forums, because it's dynamite! I would like to ask Harry Buckle how much he knows about the consortium, and how he knows about 2 apparent offers made for the club. I assume that, as a Rovers fan this isn't entirely made up BS ( no, stick with me) because what would be the point? So, Harry, if you read this forum I would be hugely interested to read what you know, taking confidentiality into account, of course. On another note, I'm surprised Gasincider hasn't posted regarding these developments.He's still trying to think up a really good one. Who knows what he'll "hear" in The Corridors of Power today. Would that be the line at the new Pastie stand
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Post by LJG on Aug 26, 2017 9:15:34 GMT
We keep getting told by Antonio that nothing can be said due to confidentiality clauses. So why did we get told that UWE kept revisiting points we thought we had agreed? Were they not covered by confidentiality clauses? Or is it only the ones that tell us the real reason why we pulled the plug that are covered by such clauses? With regard to what's happening, I bow to Harry Buckles knowledge, and of course Lordjusticegasheads. Why are you asking us questions? You're the one with all the answers from The Corridors of Power.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Aug 26, 2017 9:25:53 GMT
We keep getting told by Antonio that nothing can be said due to confidentiality clauses. So why did we get told that UWE kept revisiting points we thought we had agreed? Were they not covered by confidentiality clauses? Or is it only the ones that tell us the real reason why we pulled the plug that are covered by such clauses? With regard to what's happening, I bow to Harry Buckles knowledge, and of course Lordjusticegasheads. Why do certain people feel it's ok to tell you information but don't feel it's appropriate to let plebs like me and 1000s of other loyal, paying customers know? I'm not knocking you, I appreciate that you pass on what you can of what you've heard. If there is a confidentiality agreement is your source breaking that? If there isn't why can't we all just know whats going on at the club? I've said it before, and I'll say it again.... In my opinion someone at Rovers appears to be deliberately undermining the current ownership. Anyone know who and why??
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Post by yategas78 on Aug 26, 2017 9:34:09 GMT
I'm not sure how far confidentiality clauses go Conversation ends. I know but I can't say😜
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Post by LJG on Aug 26, 2017 9:38:04 GMT
We keep getting told by Antonio that nothing can be said due to confidentiality clauses. So why did we get told that UWE kept revisiting points we thought we had agreed? Were they not covered by confidentiality clauses? Or is it only the ones that tell us the real reason why we pulled the plug that are covered by such clauses? With regard to what's happening, I bow to Harry Buckles knowledge, and of course Lordjusticegasheads. Why do certain people feel it's ok to tell you information but don't feel it's appropriate to let plebs like me and 1000s of other loyal, paying customers know? I'm not knocking you, I appreciate that you pass on what you can of what you've heard. If there is a confidentiality agreement is your source breaking that? If there isn't why can't we all just know whats going on at the club? I've said it before, and I'll say it again.... In my opinion someone at Rovers appears to be deliberately undermining the current ownership. Anyone know who and why?? Gasincider because he's mates with Kevin Spencer.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 26, 2017 9:48:07 GMT
We keep getting told by Antonio that nothing can be said due to confidentiality clauses. So why did we get told that UWE kept revisiting points we thought we had agreed? Were they not covered by confidentiality clauses? Or is it only the ones that tell us the real reason why we pulled the plug that are covered by such clauses? With regard to what's happening, I bow to Harry Buckles knowledge, and of course Lordjusticegasheads. Why do certain people feel it's ok to tell you information but don't feel it's appropriate to let plebs like me and 1000s of other loyal, paying customers know? I'm not knocking you, I appreciate that you pass on what you can of what you've heard. If there is a confidentiality agreement is your source breaking that? If there isn't why can't we all just know whats going on at the club? I've said it before, and I'll say it again.... In my opinion someone at Rovers appears to be deliberately undermining the current ownership. Anyone know who and why??Perhaps it's because they have the best interests of the club at heart? By the way Harry Buckle is most defiantly not Gasincider, so the news is now coming from two completely different sources.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 26, 2017 9:49:59 GMT
We keep getting told by Antonio that nothing can be said due to confidentiality clauses. So why did we get told that UWE kept revisiting points we thought we had agreed? Were they not covered by confidentiality clauses? Or is it only the ones that tell us the real reason why we pulled the plug that are covered by such clauses? With regard to what's happening, I bow to Harry Buckles knowledge, and of course Lordjusticegasheads. Well, obviously they get to say something (because they have), but who knows what is safely within the agreement, what is a clear breach, and what is a dubious edge case? But, I would suggest someone who knows the whole story and knows the terms of the confidentiality agreement would have a better idea than someone who just gets the official announcements. But the idea that because they've said something they must say more is a bit ridiculous, isn't it? Obviously, though, both parties are gonna say what's convenient to them, within the bounds of the agreement. No one's gonna say something that makes them look like a liar or an arse or an incompetent, whether it's within the agreement or not. In any case, they might not even have a formal agreement, coz in cases like this, just like any business arrangement, it's common that everything is considered confidential until they have a deal in place and/or an announcement to make, until then, you just get variations of 'talks are ongoing, everyone wants to get it done,' like we had. So, no, I'm not saying nothing can be said (coz obviously something has been said), I'm saying those who keep whining that we're not being told the whole story, and then concluding from that that Wael must be lying, or have something deeply suspicious to hide, have no evidence. And that having no evidence is not evidence that something dodgy is going on.
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Post by LJG on Aug 26, 2017 9:53:55 GMT
Why do certain people feel it's ok to tell you information but don't feel it's appropriate to let plebs like me and 1000s of other loyal, paying customers know? I'm not knocking you, I appreciate that you pass on what you can of what you've heard. If there is a confidentiality agreement is your source breaking that? If there isn't why can't we all just know whats going on at the club? I've said it before, and I'll say it again.... In my opinion someone at Rovers appears to be deliberately undermining the current ownership. Anyone know who and why??Perhaps it's because they have the best interests of the club at heart? By the way Harry Buckle is most defiantly not Gasincider, so the news is now coming from two completely different sources.  One person repeating what another person has said does not make them "two completely different sources". If I start repeating the stuff you made up about the Al Qadis to other people that doesn't make me a "source" does it? Gossip? Yes. WUM? Sure. Source? No.
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Post by oldgas on Aug 26, 2017 9:53:56 GMT
There's another thread on here with a photo of the old Eastville pitch under about a foot of water.
Fast forward about 60 years and they could produce a photo of rhe Mem pitch similarly swamped.
This time with Bullshit.
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Post by yategas78 on Aug 26, 2017 9:54:52 GMT
When the PP on the MEM is sorted and we can see a bit of light at the end of the tunnel it will all settle down, then the waiting will start all over again. Realistically if we have positive news and a confirmed plan in place by the end of this season I would start to believe we will see!
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Post by gasstrictband on Aug 26, 2017 10:06:18 GMT
Wael on the way ,his head in a cloud. The man with a thousand voices. Talking perfectly loud.
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Post by LJG on Aug 26, 2017 10:31:55 GMT
Wael on the way ,his head in a cloud. The man with a thousand voices. Talking perfectly loud. And nobody ever hears him, Just the sh1te gasincider makes, And he never seems to notice ...
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