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Post by aghast on Sept 17, 2017 19:14:49 GMT
Interesting to see Leyton Orient top of that table. Just beaten by Hartlepool to slip to 15th in the Conference.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2017 23:14:37 GMT
Interesting to see Leyton Orient top of that table. Just beaten by Hartlepool to slip to 15th in the Conference. and none of the top seven at the time finished in the top seven at the end of the season. But oh those glory days of just having a -1 goal difference.
edit...Monday morning madness setting in...except of course Plymouth and Portsmouth did haha
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 2:21:50 GMT
I think the op and others forget how far we have come in such a short space of time. The league 2 promotion was outrageous as any reasonable fan would have settled for half way up the league. Then a remarkable 10th place finish last season. Leadbitter,brown,lockyer,sinclair,lines,harrison and ollie clarke all from the conference promotion team and still in the mix. We dont have big money to spend so a difficult season is pretty much inevitable imo,the trick is not to get relegated after it ends of course. As for the op going on about a "high press" game,its not the only way of playing and winning,its just a style of play that can succeed or fail. Mourinho never plays that way and hes done ok. Happy for our next manager to play that style but there are drawbacks with that style ie you run out of steam and you get caught out with balls behind your defence. Just watch klopps liverpool to see how brilliant that way of playing can be and also how terrible it is at times.
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Post by yategas78 on Sept 18, 2017 4:16:36 GMT
I think Danny Leadbitter is very fortunate to be keeping his place at the moment, apart from being able to run fast he is offering very little else from what I have seen or heard this season. I think the lad needs a spell on the bench and Partington given a run out
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 18, 2017 6:47:02 GMT
I think Danny Leadbitter is very fortunate to be keeping his place at the moment, apart from being able to run fast he is offering very little else from what I have seen or heard this season. I think the lad needs a spell on the bench and Partington given a run out I'm not sure how this is happening. Partington has gone from not being able to play 3 games in a week to only playing 1 per week. I think he has the potential to be our best player (bar Bodin), given regular games.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Sept 18, 2017 6:51:55 GMT
I think Danny Leadbitter is very fortunate to be keeping his place at the moment, apart from being able to run fast he is offering very little else from what I have seen or heard this season. I think the lad needs a spell on the bench and Partington given a run out I'm not sure how this is happening. Partington has gone from not being able to play 3 games in a week to only playing 1 per week. I think he has the potential to be our best player (bar Bodin), given regular games. DC is not stupid. I think we have to assume that Parts' injury needs a lot of managing at the moment.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 6:54:38 GMT
I think the op and others forget how far we have come in such a short space of time. The league 2 promotion was outrageous as any reasonable fan would have settled for half way up the league. Then a remarkable 10th place finish last season. Leadbitter,brown,lockyer,sinclair,lines,harrison and ollie clarke all from the conference promotion team and still in the mix. We dont have big money to spend so a difficult season is pretty much inevitable imo,the trick is not to get relegated after it ends of course. As for the op going on about a "high press" game,its not the only way of playing and winning,its just a style of play that can succeed or fail. Mourinho never plays that way and hes done ok. Happy for our next manager to play that style but there are drawbacks with that style ie you run out of steam and you get caught out with balls behind your defence. Just watch klopps liverpool to see how brilliant that way of playing can be and also how terrible it is at times. You go to watch your team win and want them at least in the playoffs,yes we've had a couple of good seasons so why not want more just because we've done well don't mean we should sit back and settle for half way especially when SH says we got a top 6 budget if he would of announced we're aiming to finish halfway how many season tickets do you reckon would we have sold? we get sold down the river whosever in charge of this club. Trouble is we and the players don't know how he's going to play the next game we need stability in formations and style of play at the moment imo.
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Post by tommym9 on Sept 18, 2017 7:12:34 GMT
I think the op and others forget how far we have come in such a short space of time. The league 2 promotion was outrageous as any reasonable fan would have settled for half way up the league. Then a remarkable 10th place finish last season. Leadbitter,brown,lockyer,sinclair,lines,harrison and ollie clarke all from the conference promotion team and still in the mix. We dont have big money to spend so a difficult season is pretty much inevitable imo,the trick is not to get relegated after it ends of course. As for the op going on about a "high press" game,its not the only way of playing and winning,its just a style of play that can succeed or fail. Mourinho never plays that way and hes done ok. Happy for our next manager to play that style but there are drawbacks with that style ie you run out of steam and you get caught out with balls behind your defence. Just watch klopps liverpool to see how brilliant that way of playing can be and also how terrible it is at times. You go to watch your team win and want them at least in the playoffs,yes we've had a couple of good seasons so why not want more just because we've done well don't mean we should sit back and settle for half way especially when SH says we got a top 6 budget if he would of announced we're aiming to finish halfway how many season tickets do you reckon would we have sold? we get sold down the river whosever in charge of this club. Trouble is we and the players don't know how he's going to play the next game we need stability in formations and style of play at the moment imo. I don't understand this call for a stable formation and line up that's been going round the forum lately. DC has been treating each game as a project the whole time he has managed Rovers and its worked well. We've gone through rough patches before and he's pulled us through. I'm not going to start doubting him because if a couple of poor results.
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Post by madgas on Sept 18, 2017 7:21:03 GMT
Whilst we've not been great- we've only been knocked off the park twice. We're struggling for form, no doubt. However, I do not share the doom and gloom. We're picking up the odd "W"- despite playing bang average. I think when we hit our straps, we've got a run in us.
Need to stick together.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 7:28:11 GMT
You go to watch your team win and want them at least in the playoffs,yes we've had a couple of good seasons so why not want more just because we've done well don't mean we should sit back and settle for half way especially when SH says we got a top 6 budget if he would of announced we're aiming to finish halfway how many season tickets do you reckon would we have sold? we get sold down the river whosever in charge of this club. Trouble is we and the players don't know how he's going to play the next game we need stability in formations and style of play at the moment imo. I don't understand this call for a stable formation and line up that's been going round the forum lately. DC has been treating each game as a project the whole time he has managed Rovers and its worked well. We've gone through rough patches before and he's pulled us through. I'm not going to start doubting him because if a couple of poor results. Our away form for the last couple of seasons would hardly suggest treating every match as a separate project by chopping and changing has been a success. Even the most optimistic poster can surely not deny our away form has been very poor over that period.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 8:38:54 GMT
I don't understand this call for a stable formation and line up that's been going round the forum lately. DC has been treating each game as a project the whole time he has managed Rovers and its worked well. We've gone through rough patches before and he's pulled us through. I'm not going to start doubting him because if a couple of poor results. Our away form for the last couple of seasons would hardly suggest treating every match as a separate project by chopping and changing has been a success. Even the most optimistic poster can surely not deny our away form has been very poor over that period. Our away league games this year (since Jan1st) P16 W3 D3 L10 F15 A32 Pts 12. With the away form looking as though it's trending the same way as last season we can only hope the home form of last season can be maintained otherwise we could find ourselves in deep sh£t. Even that is now looking worryingly questionable. Last season, we were in the main expecting the team not to lose at home - now I feel we are beginning to feel uncomfortable - even with this w/ends visit of Blackpool. Worrying times for me.
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Post by knowall on Sept 18, 2017 9:18:25 GMT
You go to watch your team win and want them at least in the playoffs,yes we've had a couple of good seasons so why not want more just because we've done well don't mean we should sit back and settle for half way especially when SH says we got a top 6 budget if he would of announced we're aiming to finish halfway how many season tickets do you reckon would we have sold? we get sold down the river whosever in charge of this club. Trouble is we and the players don't know how he's going to play the next game we need stability in formations and style of play at the moment imo. I don't understand this call for a stable formation and line up that's been going round the forum lately. DC has been treating each game as a project the whole time he has managed Rovers and its worked well. We've gone through rough patches before and he's pulled us through. I'm not going to start doubting him because if a couple of poor results. Despite a lot of respect for DC I do wonder if his obstinate nature is having a detrimental effect on the whole scenario - and I challenge your assertion that 'its worked well' Last season, for instance, DCs perseverance with Luke James was painful and who cannot argue that insisting on playing James may have lost us a play-off place? And now Ellis is being selected over Gaffney when some pundits agree Gaffney should play and be replaced by 'impact player' Harrison in the 2nd half. And Leadbitter being preferred to Partington makes no sense to most of us! As does Tom as Captain - excellent player he is - Captain he is not. I would love to know what DC regards as his BEST eleven and why he does not play them for several matches? Reflect on this - one of the best combination/partnerships in recent times was Brown/Monkhouse - because they played together so often they instinctively knew what the other was thinking and it worked so well for us. Now Brown appears to be less effective - and no wonder when he has a different player to work with every game. And that my friends, is happening all over the pitch.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 9:36:36 GMT
Is this need to limit Partington's game time as result of injury since he signed or is this something related to the horrendous knee injury some years back?
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Post by tommym9 on Sept 18, 2017 9:54:04 GMT
I don't understand this call for a stable formation and line up that's been going round the forum lately. DC has been treating each game as a project the whole time he has managed Rovers and its worked well. We've gone through rough patches before and he's pulled us through. I'm not going to start doubting him because if a couple of poor results. Our away form for the last couple of seasons would hardly suggest treating every match as a separate project by chopping and changing has been a success. Even the most optimistic poster can surely not deny our away form has been very poor over that period. The other side to that argument is that our home form has been incredible using the same chopping and changing system. I completely agree our away form has been poor, but I don't think we can pin that on DCs rotation policy.
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Post by markczgas on Sept 18, 2017 10:22:59 GMT
Whilst we've not been great- we've only been knocked off the park twice. We're struggling for form, no doubt. However, I do not share the doom and gloom. We're picking up the odd "W"- despite playing bang average. I think when we hit our straps, we've got a run in us. Need to stick together. If that "we hit our straps" form means we look like like a side who can look solid defensively and pick up some clean sheets along the way, then I'm with you. What worries me about DC this season is that he is probably forcing the attacking bit too much before he's "closed the barn door". Im worried about all our back four this season (although Lockyer has improved a bit in recent games) and our keepers. Slocombe won't come and claim balls and Smith doesn't look like stopping them. Sorry to say it but I would be over-the -moon with a 0 - 0 v Blackpool, where we actually deserved the clean sheet !
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Post by dragonfly on Sept 18, 2017 10:51:15 GMT
I do not know the reason but the commentary on my phone was the home Wigan version and at one point before the break as Wigan attacked. the commentators were astounded that our defenders retreated and invited a clear shot on goal. DC has to select his best defenders and drill into them defending with discipline and he needs to do it urgently. His over reliance on attacking has resulted in the huge numbers of Goals we conceded last season and this. Until January arrives DC has to work with the Players available to him so he must find a way of producing effective defending.
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Post by cookinongas on Sept 18, 2017 11:05:01 GMT
The link leads to a blank page bud
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Post by singupgas on Sept 18, 2017 11:25:32 GMT
I do not know the reason but the commentary on my phone was the home Wigan version and at one point before the break as Wigan attacked. the commentators were astounded that our defenders retreated and invited a clear shot on goal. DC has to select his best defenders and drill into them defending with discipline and he needs to do it urgently. His over reliance on attacking has resulted in the huge numbers of Goals we conceded last season and this. Until January arrives DC has to work with the Players available to him so he must find a way of producing effective defending. To be honest we haven't even looked that threatening going forward, we are so slow going forward and results in us going wide for a floated cross to be put in the box. DC must recognize sooner rather than later we need a serious shake up and must bring in better footballers. DC, Wael and many supporters surely must be seeing the same thing.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 16:02:09 GMT
I don't understand this call for a stable formation and line up that's been going round the forum lately. DC has been treating each game as a project the whole time he has managed Rovers and its worked well. We've gone through rough patches before and he's pulled us through. I'm not going to start doubting him because if a couple of poor results. Despite a lot of respect for DC I do wonder if his obstinate nature is having a detrimental effect on the whole scenario - and I challenge your assertion that 'its worked well' Last season, for instance, DCs perseverance with Luke James was painful and who cannot argue that insisting on playing James may have lost us a play-off place? And now Ellis is being selected over Gaffney when some pundits agree Gaffney should play and be replaced by 'impact player' Harrison in the 2nd half. And Leadbitter being preferred to Partington makes no sense to most of us! As does Tom as Captain - excellent player he is - Captain he is not. I would love to know what DC regards as his BEST eleven and why he does not play them for several matches? Reflect on this - one of the best combination/partnerships in recent times was Brown/Monkhouse - because they played together so often they instinctively knew what the other was thinking and it worked so well for us. Now Brown appears to be less effective - and no wonder when he has a different player to work with every game. And that my friends, is happening all over the pitch. Absolutely spot on knowall ... The sooner people wise up to the fact that we are very much in a relegation scrap already (due to awful under recruitment of quality in the summer) and all this Top Six target and beating last seasons tally with this current squad are just ramblings of a seriously underwhelming Leadership team out of touch with way more than current inflationary transfer prices. Don't think for one moment January will see anything different than more lies from the Boardroom and an inability to land any decent new signings. What did anyone genuinely expect though with no new proven Striker or key other missed signings that we desperately needed. I posted months ago that this season was DCs biggest test and as usual the Forum Militia shouted it down ... if he is here at the end of the season and we are still in L1 he will have done really well. He senses it i'm sure as after only eight games he is questioning some of his players motivation and L1 ability... Saddest thing this weekend was to hear a young lad on Radio Bristol this weekend who travels home and away every week saying he saw No Guts, No fight and No interest from the team he adores...That from this group of players and match day staff is Criminal !
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Post by gashead1981 on Sept 18, 2017 16:33:25 GMT
www.11v11.com/league-tables/league-one/18-september-2016/Whats even more interesting is the table from a year ago. Bury were 3rd and just missed out on relegation. Port Vale were 5th and got relegated. Sheff Utd Won the league and were 6th but off the pace, Rochdale were 23rd and finished in front of us and we were 21st with less points than this time last year, but just missed out on the play offs. Millwall who won the play offs were 9th. In other words, until we are 15 games in we will be up and down like a yo yo. A couple of good results again and we will be in the mix and everyone will be talking play offs and promotion.
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