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Post by samcourt on Sept 18, 2017 16:37:24 GMT
One of the lads down at Eastleigh said to me Saturday that Parts is fit and has been for weeks. We asked as we hadn't seen him mentioned for a while. So the reason he was dropped after doing well must be tactical.
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Post by singupgas on Sept 18, 2017 16:37:25 GMT
Despite a lot of respect for DC I do wonder if his obstinate nature is having a detrimental effect on the whole scenario - and I challenge your assertion that 'its worked well' Last season, for instance, DCs perseverance with Luke James was painful and who cannot argue that insisting on playing James may have lost us a play-off place? And now Ellis is being selected over Gaffney when some pundits agree Gaffney should play and be replaced by 'impact player' Harrison in the 2nd half. And Leadbitter being preferred to Partington makes no sense to most of us! As does Tom as Captain - excellent player he is - Captain he is not. I would love to know what DC regards as his BEST eleven and why he does not play them for several matches? Reflect on this - one of the best combination/partnerships in recent times was Brown/Monkhouse - because they played together so often they instinctively knew what the other was thinking and it worked so well for us. Now Brown appears to be less effective - and no wonder when he has a different player to work with every game. And that my friends, is happening all over the pitch. Absolutely spot on knowall ... The sooner people wise up to the fact that we are very much in a relegation scrap already (due to awful under recruitment of quality in the summer) and all this Top Six target and beating last seasons tally with this current squad are just ramblings of a seriously underwhelming Leadership team out of touch with way more than current inflationary transfer prices. Don't think for one moment January will see anything different than more lies from the Boardroom and an inability to land any decent new signings. What did anyone genuinely expect though with no new proven Striker or key other missed signings that we desperately needed. I posted months ago that this season was DCs biggest test and as usual the Forum Militia shouted it down ... if he is here at the end of the season and we are still in L1 he will have done really well. He senses it i'm sure as after only eight games he is questioning some of his players motivation and L1 ability... Saddest thing this weekend was to hear a young lad on Radio Bristol this weekend who travels home and away every week saying he saw No Guts, No fight and No interest from the team he adores...That from this group of players and match day staff is Criminal ! You are spot on. we are a poor side right now. all we can do is hope we can pick up some wins at home and still be in the top 20 until January. We MUST up our game, we look complacent and there is just no energy.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 16:44:46 GMT
Absolutely spot on knowall ... The sooner people wise up to the fact that we are very much in a relegation scrap already (due to awful under recruitment of quality in the summer) and all this Top Six target and beating last seasons tally with this current squad are just ramblings of a seriously underwhelming Leadership team out of touch with way more than current inflationary transfer prices. Don't think for one moment January will see anything different than more lies from the Boardroom and an inability to land any decent new signings. What did anyone genuinely expect though with no new proven Striker or key other missed signings that we desperately needed. I posted months ago that this season was DCs biggest test and as usual the Forum Militia shouted it down ... if he is here at the end of the season and we are still in L1 he will have done really well. He senses it i'm sure as after only eight games he is questioning some of his players motivation and L1 ability... Saddest thing this weekend was to hear a young lad on Radio Bristol this weekend who travels home and away every week saying he saw No Guts, No fight and No interest from the team he adores...That from this group of players and match day staff is Criminal ! You are spot on. we are a poor side right now. all we can do is hope we can pick up some wins at home and still be in the top 20 until January. We MUST up our game, we look complacent and there is just no energy.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 16:48:40 GMT
So singupgas who's too blame the management or the players do you think the players like the chopping and changing all the time ?
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 18, 2017 17:09:36 GMT
Despite a lot of respect for DC I do wonder if his obstinate nature is having a detrimental effect on the whole scenario - and I challenge your assertion that 'its worked well' Last season, for instance, DCs perseverance with Luke James was painful and who cannot argue that insisting on playing James may have lost us a play-off place? And now Ellis is being selected over Gaffney when some pundits agree Gaffney should play and be replaced by 'impact player' Harrison in the 2nd half. And Leadbitter being preferred to Partington makes no sense to most of us! As does Tom as Captain - excellent player he is - Captain he is not. I would love to know what DC regards as his BEST eleven and why he does not play them for several matches? Reflect on this - one of the best combination/partnerships in recent times was Brown/Monkhouse - because they played together so often they instinctively knew what the other was thinking and it worked so well for us. Now Brown appears to be less effective - and no wonder when he has a different player to work with every game. And that my friends, is happening all over the pitch. Absolutely spot on knowall ... The sooner people wise up to the fact that we are very much in a relegation scrap already (due to awful under recruitment of quality in the summer) and all this Top Six target and beating last seasons tally with this current squad are just ramblings of a seriously underwhelming Leadership team out of touch with way more than current inflationary transfer prices. Don't think for one moment January will see anything different than more lies from the Boardroom and an inability to land any decent new signings. What did anyone genuinely expect though with no new proven Striker or key other missed signings that we desperately needed. I posted months ago that this season was DCs biggest test and as usual the Forum Militia shouted it down ... if he is here at the end of the season and we are still in L1 he will have done really well. He senses it i'm sure as after only eight games he is questioning some of his players motivation and L1 ability... Saddest thing this weekend was to hear a young lad on Radio Bristol this weekend who travels home and away every week saying he saw No Guts, No fight and No interest from the team he adores...That from this group of players and match day staff is Criminal !
Fair play to Ollie calling in every week but do we really want to accept what a schoolboy says post match is the true facts, even when down to 10 men we had the chance to make it 2-1 from the spot, which hardly gives the impression there's no fight etc in the team. If we're not careful we'll talk ourselves into a relegation fight.
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Post by singupgas on Sept 18, 2017 17:20:55 GMT
So singupgas who's too blame the management or the players do you think the players like the chopping and changing all the time ? I think the players are ultimately at blame, it's not like they are few playing well individually. if DC has a system and wants to play that at we have to bring in players capable. Time to get tough and forget that last 3 years that have been good to us, need bring in players who can take us to the next level, right now our current players don't look like they can.
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Post by singupgas on Sept 18, 2017 17:22:28 GMT
Absolutely spot on knowall ... The sooner people wise up to the fact that we are very much in a relegation scrap already (due to awful under recruitment of quality in the summer) and all this Top Six target and beating last seasons tally with this current squad are just ramblings of a seriously underwhelming Leadership team out of touch with way more than current inflationary transfer prices. Don't think for one moment January will see anything different than more lies from the Boardroom and an inability to land any decent new signings. What did anyone genuinely expect though with no new proven Striker or key other missed signings that we desperately needed. I posted months ago that this season was DCs biggest test and as usual the Forum Militia shouted it down ... if he is here at the end of the season and we are still in L1 he will have done really well. He senses it i'm sure as after only eight games he is questioning some of his players motivation and L1 ability... Saddest thing this weekend was to hear a young lad on Radio Bristol this weekend who travels home and away every week saying he saw No Guts, No fight and No interest from the team he adores...That from this group of players and match day staff is Criminal !
Fair play to Ollie calling in every week but do we really want to accept what a schoolboy says post match is the true facts, even when down to 10 men we had the chance to make it 2-1 from the spot, which hardly gives the impression there's no fight etc in the team. If we're not careful we'll talk ourselves into a relegation fight. Why not, he talk lot of sense and is saying what quite lot of other supporters are also seeing.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 17:25:29 GMT
Absolutely spot on knowall ... The sooner people wise up to the fact that we are very much in a relegation scrap already (due to awful under recruitment of quality in the summer) and all this Top Six target and beating last seasons tally with this current squad are just ramblings of a seriously underwhelming Leadership team out of touch with way more than current inflationary transfer prices. Don't think for one moment January will see anything different than more lies from the Boardroom and an inability to land any decent new signings. What did anyone genuinely expect though with no new proven Striker or key other missed signings that we desperately needed. I posted months ago that this season was DCs biggest test and as usual the Forum Militia shouted it down ... if he is here at the end of the season and we are still in L1 he will have done really well. He senses it i'm sure as after only eight games he is questioning some of his players motivation and L1 ability... Saddest thing this weekend was to hear a young lad on Radio Bristol this weekend who travels home and away every week saying he saw No Guts, No fight and No interest from the team he adores...That from this group of players and match day staff is Criminal ! Fair play to Ollie calling in every week but do we really want to accept what a schoolboy says post match is the true facts, even when down to 10 men we had the chance to make it 2-1 from the spot, which hardly gives the impression there's no fight etc in the team. If we're not careful we'll talk ourselves into a relegation fight. I agree, only views of adults aged 18 and over should be accepted in such circumstances
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Post by Marshy on Sept 18, 2017 17:40:05 GMT
Fair play to Ollie calling in every week but do we really want to accept what a schoolboy says post match is the true facts, even when down to 10 men we had the chance to make it 2-1 from the spot, which hardly gives the impression there's no fight etc in the team. If we're not careful we'll talk ourselves into a relegation fight. I agree, only views of adults aged 18 and over should be accepted in such circumstances Send him off to boarding school, the little whipper snapper!
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Sept 18, 2017 17:41:40 GMT
I don't think there's a lack of fight or spirit certainly not in the games I've seen. We weren't great vs Oldham but a team with no fight or spirit throws the towel in at 2 down they don't drag themselves back. Similar at Wigan I wasn't there but down to 10 & being a converted pen away from being back in the game with 10 mins to go doesn't scream no fight to me.
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Post by yategas78 on Sept 18, 2017 17:52:30 GMT
Let's be honest we are bloody miles away from the likes of Wigan men against boys on and off the pitch----sorry
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Post by yategas78 on Sept 18, 2017 18:54:46 GMT
Whilst we've not been great- we've only been knocked off the park twice. We're struggling for form, no doubt. However, I do not share the doom and gloom. We're picking up the odd "W"- despite playing bang average. I think when we hit our straps, we've got a run in us. Need to stick together. So hope your right!
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Post by Raj Gas on Sept 18, 2017 19:18:38 GMT
So singupgas who's too blame the management or the players do you think the players like the chopping and changing all the time ? I think DC needs to take the majority of the blame for this continual "new project" every week. For me players like Leadbitter and Moore are confidence players and this constant in/out does nothing to improve their game or performance.We are not against conference sides now, these better sides can spot a weakness easily and if a player is not on their game they will exploit it. We overachieved massively last season and this league is much harder this time, we will do well to get to mid-table come May in my view.
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Post by markczgas on Sept 18, 2017 20:19:34 GMT
I don't think there's a lack of fight or spirit certainly not in the games I've seen. We weren't great vs Oldham but a team with no fight or spirit throws the towel in at 2 down they don't drag themselves back. Similar at Wigan I wasn't there but down to 10 & being a converted pen away from being back in the game with 10 mins to go doesn't scream no fight to me. It's the quality, concentration levels and the organisation that have been naff - that's all
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Post by Colyton Gas on Sept 18, 2017 21:00:25 GMT
Let's be honest we are bloody miles away from the likes of Wigan men against boys on and off the pitch----sorry Totally agree.Rose Tinters even used to praise Luke James.We were crap at Wigan and Bradford.Also crap against Oldham.Going to grounds like these and Molineux to-morrow it underlines just how far behind we are as a club. Be positive yes but realism surely must sink in when you look at our tented stands. Was devastated when the Conference fixtures came out but we've fought back from that despite the ground never having improved other than another tent..Failure to recruit real quality may cost us dear.'Crazy Gang' says the chairman.Ambition doesn't seem to feature on our agenda.Hope things improve.Will make the short journey of 16 miles to-morrow but will underline that seeing their stadium just how far behind we are.To the Rose Tinters,we were awful in our last two games.Quality simply absent.
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Post by yategas78 on Sept 18, 2017 21:08:49 GMT
Let's be honest we are bloody miles away from the likes of Wigan men against boys on and off the pitch----sorry Totally agree.Rose Tinters even used to praise Luke James.We were crap at Wigan and Bradford.Also crap against Oldham.Going to grounds like these and Molineux to-morrow it underlines just how far behind we are as a club. Be positive yes but realism surely must sink in when you look at our tented stands. Was devastated when the Conference fixtures came out but we've fought back from that despite the ground never having improved other than another tent..Failure to recruit real quality may cost us dear.'Crazy Gang' says the chairman.Ambition doesn't seem to feature on our agenda.Hope things improve.Will make the short journey of 16 miles to-morrow but will underline that seeing their stadium just how far behind we are.To the Rose Tinters,we were awful in our last two games.Quality simply absent. Bloody great post!
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