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Post by Centenary Gas on Sept 13, 2014 19:12:55 GMT
13 points from the last 6 games, with 2 home games coming up. We may still have leaks in the side, but considering the results that could be seen as a positive. Couldn't win away, couldn't score goals. Well today we won and we created plenty, scoring 3.
DC talked about knowing he will be given a fair chance, but has he had one? There are questions being asked about him lacking animation on the touchline and skipping a post match interview, but when I listed to his interview prior to the Lincoln match he seemed pretty genuine when talking about it being understandable when the fans give stick.
Are there some people on here that only critisise? After being so outspoken about DC, do they have a jaded view? Will they be straight back on here the moment things get shaky again? I remembered a name or two that were very outspoken of DC, and their last posts were before Tuesdays win, criticising the manager. Despite logging after and as recently as 2 hours ago, not a peep in terms of posts.
So come on people, give some credit where it's due. I know its still early days, I know it could all change. But the last few games warrant some praise. Not only did we get the result today, but DC changed the formation and people have commented that it made a difference. Remember JW's defensive tactics, do you think he would of been happy for open, end to end football today and gone for the win? I've been a supporter of DC and have been biased in his favour, but I will post against him if I feel it warrants it. So wouldn't it be fair if those on the other side of the opinion scale post some positivity? We all want the same thing in the end...
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 13, 2014 19:23:30 GMT
13 points from the last 6 games, with 2 home games coming up. We may still have leaks in the side, but considering the results that could be seen as a positive. Couldn't win away, couldn't score goals. Well today we won and we created plenty, scoring 3. DC talked about knowing he will be given a fair chance, but has he had one? There are questions being asked about him lacking animation on the touchline and skipping a post match interview, but when I listed to his interview prior to the Lincoln match he seemed pretty genuine when talking about it being understandable when the fans give stick. Are there some people on here that only critisise? After being so outspoken about DC, do they have a jaded view? Will they be straight back on here the moment things get shaky again? I remembered a name or two that were very outspoken of DC, and their last posts were before Tuesdays win, criticising the manager. Despite logging after and as recently as 2 hours ago, not a peep in terms of posts. So come on people, give some credit where it's due. I know its still early days, I know it could all change. But the last few games warrant some praise. Not only did we get the result today, but DC changed the formation and people have commented that it made a difference. Remember JW's defensive tactics, do you think he would of been happy for open, end to end football today and gone for the win? I've been a supporter of DC and have been biased in his favour, but I will post against him if I feel it warrants it. So wouldn't it be fair if those on the other side of the opinion scale post some positivity? We all want the same thing in the end... Just a shame you done your money.
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Post by Centenary Gas on Sept 13, 2014 19:41:03 GMT
13 points from the last 6 games, with 2 home games coming up. We may still have leaks in the side, but considering the results that could be seen as a positive. Couldn't win away, couldn't score goals. Well today we won and we created plenty, scoring 3. DC talked about knowing he will be given a fair chance, but has he had one? There are questions being asked about him lacking animation on the touchline and skipping a post match interview, but when I listed to his interview prior to the Lincoln match he seemed pretty genuine when talking about it being understandable when the fans give stick. Are there some people on here that only critisise? After being so outspoken about DC, do they have a jaded view? Will they be straight back on here the moment things get shaky again? I remembered a name or two that were very outspoken of DC, and their last posts were before Tuesdays win, criticising the manager. Despite logging after and as recently as 2 hours ago, not a peep in terms of posts. So come on people, give some credit where it's due. I know its still early days, I know it could all change. But the last few games warrant some praise. Not only did we get the result today, but DC changed the formation and people have commented that it made a difference. Remember JW's defensive tactics, do you think he would of been happy for open, end to end football today and gone for the win? I've been a supporter of DC and have been biased in his favour, but I will post against him if I feel it warrants it. So wouldn't it be fair if those on the other side of the opinion scale post some positivity? We all want the same thing in the end... Just a shame you done your money. Not in this case it wasn't
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Post by Rovers 12th Man on Sept 13, 2014 20:16:05 GMT
Definitely credit where credit is due. I think some people will hold a grudge against DC for a while as he was the manager in charge when we dropped out of the football league but personally I feel he is showing he is good enough to now succeed at this club.
He now has the players in that he wanted, has had time to work with them and we are really starting to see the benefits now. If we can get 6 points from the next 2 home games, confidence should be high and I can see us challenging for the playoffs and maybe higher this season.
Is there still room for improvement? Yes, defiantly but I think and hope that we have now turned a corner.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2014 20:23:58 GMT
Yeah, fair dos. I've been critical and one swallow doesn't make a summer but there are improvements under DC.
I hope the board give him more time.
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Post by Centenary Gas on Sept 13, 2014 20:25:48 GMT
Definitely credit where credit is due. I think some people will hold a grudge against DC for a while as he was the manager in charge when we dropped out of the football league but personally I feel he is showing he is good enough to now succeed at this club. He now has the players in that he wanted, has had time to work with them and we are really starting to see the benefits now. If we can get 6 points from the next 2 home games, confidence should be high and I can see us challenging for the playoffs and maybe higher this season. Is there still room for improvement? Yes, defiantly but I think and hope that we have now turned a corner. Good post. I challenge people to name a manager where they 'ticked all the boxes'. Every manager has attributes people don't like, but DC seems to have less than most. And that is great for us in the 5th tier. - He isn't negative (compare to JW, Trolls, Atkins etc) - Not afraid to change it - Not an asshole, like some have been (PB) - Gets players in on reasonable, short contracts who give high levels of effort. (Trolls, McGhee) - Seems to get some good morale in the camp. - Is honest (Atkins) - Approachable - No past failure at previous club (work in progress here despite relegation, at least has more experience than a player manager. We could do a hell of a lot worse, and based on the appointments over the last decade I would fear worse is exactly what we would get. If only he would stop saying 'you know'...
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Post by mjhgas on Sept 13, 2014 20:44:20 GMT
There are more questions about the board of directors than DC!
Those muppets will get off scot free if we hit the top six!
Yes, we might be doing ok, but don't forget where we have come from.
Watola's comment that they had not planned for relegation should never be forgotten.
Well done the players & manager!!!
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Post by Centenary Gas on Sept 13, 2014 20:48:57 GMT
There are more questions about the board of directors than DC! Those muppets will get off scot free if we hit the top six! Yes, we might be doing ok, but don't forget where we have come from. Watola's comment that they had not planned for relegation should never be forgotten. Well done the players & manager!!! If they deliver the UWE and get us back up I won't care nearly as much. Repaying of sins and all. If the UWE isn't built, then they will be getting bucket loads from all directions.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2014 21:10:48 GMT
Fair enough great result today first away win and back to back wins. DC will have to win a few hearts and minds before he gets accepted by some here me included, but a win on the road is always welcome.
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Post by aghast on Sept 13, 2014 22:00:24 GMT
I don't think many people are losing sight of the fact that the Board are a shambles and the UWE is dead in the water, so in the long term things are not great.
But for the manager and players, the priority is results on the day. And currently they are doing OK for us, despite the mayhem behind them. We can ask no more of DC and the team that they ignore boardroom splits and stadium planning issues and just concentrate on the task at hand - getting us up the table.
All the other stuff is a distraction to them. Vital to the club. But not anything they can do much about. They just have to keep playing and winning as often as possible.
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Post by stevek192 on Sept 13, 2014 22:29:13 GMT
Well done DC and may it long continue' The players are starting to click and we need fear nobody in this league. Lets hope for two good home performances now.
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Post by buckrippers on Sept 13, 2014 22:32:55 GMT
Well done DC, well done team. As one of those outspoken people who have been quick to have a go at the manager I can confirm I have had a smile on my face since 4.45 when Ellis Harrison's name flashed up on twitter. I then took to dancing around the office, much to the consternation and alarm of my work colleagues. Huge plus points are the fact that we gave away a two-goal lead but didn't cave in, as we might have done previously. We also missed that penalty but heads didn't drop. It shows that, if anything, the appalling lack of spirit shown in previous encounters at Braintree and Altrincham may have been corrected. I say maybe, but just as people have told me it is too early to judge DC, I would point out it is far too early to think we are getting things right. We are still only 12th, our goal difference is still -1, and our strikers are still showing an alarming absence of goals. By all accounts our first two goals were handed to us on a silver platter, but at least we took them and seem to at last be creating chances. Let's wait and see where we are after our next two home games before sending the white smoke up the chimney, standing on the roof and declaring "He's the One" to everyone passing by below.
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Post by buckrippers on Sept 13, 2014 22:35:10 GMT
Oops sorry, that sounded negative at the end. It was just meant to be realistic. Six points from our next two relatively easy games please DC. Then we'll be flying!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2014 22:41:55 GMT
Well done DC, well done team. As one of those outspoken people who have been quick to have a go at the manager I can confirm I have had a smile on my face since 4.45 when Ellis Harrison's name flashed up on twitter. I then took to dancing around the office, much to the consternation and alarm of my work colleagues. Huge plus points are the fact that we gave away a two-goal lead but didn't cave in, as we might have done previously. We also missed that penalty but heads didn't drop. It shows that, if anything, the appalling lack of spirit shown in previous encounters at Braintree and Altrincham may have been corrected. I say maybe, but just as people have told me it is too early to judge DC, I would point out it is far too early to think we are getting things right. We are still only 12th, our goal difference is still -1, and our strikers are still showing an alarming absence of goals. By all accounts our first two goals were handed to us on a silver platter, but at least we took them and seem to at last be creating chances. Let's wait and see where we are after our next two home games before sending the white smoke up the chimney, standing on the roof and declaring "He's the One" to everyone passing by below. your right its too early to get over exited but also it was too early to post a thread "darrell clarke what is he good for?" dont you think? its on the other forum so it might be a different bloke with the same username?
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Post by gretschgas on Sept 13, 2014 23:01:56 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2014 23:40:53 GMT
Oops sorry, that sounded negative at the end. It was just meant to be realistic. Six points from our next two relatively easy games please DC. Then we'll be flying! I'd take a look at the league table, turns out Woking are actually quite a good side
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Post by buckrippers on Sept 15, 2014 6:58:00 GMT
Oops sorry, that sounded negative at the end. It was just meant to be realistic. Six points from our next two relatively easy games please DC. Then we'll be flying! I'd take a look at the league table, turns out Woking are actually quite a good side Are you DC in disguise? It's time we stop building up these sides and start promoting our own attributes. 1973: Yes I did start that thread and, quite honestly, one away win hasn't convinced me any other way but it would be churlish of me not to salute a good win. The manager should take the hits when the team are beaten by Braintree and Altrincham but equally deserves praise if they win at Lincoln. Unfortunately one of my biggest grumbles with him is he rarely holds his hands up to his mistakes. Still, I was interested to see he left it to Marcus Stewart to talk to the press after the win rather than blowing his own trumpet.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 8:01:58 GMT
I'd take a look at the league table, turns out Woking are actually quite a good side he rarely holds his hands up to his mistakes. Name me a manager that does ?
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Post by buckrippers on Sept 15, 2014 9:53:20 GMT
he rarely holds his hands up to his mistakes. Name me a manager that does ?There are a few: even Sir Alex did on the odd occasion (The 6-1 defeat to Man City in particular). What most of them won't do though is turn around and name and blame individual players in the media instead of holding their hands up. That I can't stand. There are ways of punishing individuals - the biggest one being to drop them or even get rid of them.
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Post by Centenary Gas on Sept 15, 2014 10:53:54 GMT
Name me a manager that does ?There are a few: even Sir Alex did on the odd occasion (The 6-1 defeat to Man City in particular). What most of them won't do though is turn around and name and blame individual players in the media instead of holding their hands up. That I can't stand. There are ways of punishing individuals - the biggest one being to drop them or even get rid of them. Can you give some examples of DC not admitting responsibility? I remember he did in the Barnet game, saying on more than one occasion he made too many changes.
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