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Post by Henbury Gas on Dec 4, 2017 13:18:21 GMT
So after the recent Wael Video are we any more convinced that the family will do good in time ?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Dec 4, 2017 13:28:09 GMT
I think that Hamer (for once) told the truth last week and DC has also made it clear where we are.
I think the SH interview was good because it got a lot of things out in the open and has stopped a lot of the little drip drip stuff we have been subjected to on here.
Basically, we are sh**e and broke and there is little in the way of funds to rectify that.
Wael is well intentioned but I dont think the rest of the family are interested at all and as such we will do well just to tread water.
I still believe pulling out of the UWE deal was right and do not trust any of the previous BoD to be the answer.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Dec 4, 2017 13:53:00 GMT
I think that Hamer (for once) told the truth last week and DC has also made it clear where we are. I think the SH interview was good because it got a lot of things out in the open and has stopped a lot of the little drip drip stuff we have been subjected to on here. Basically, we are sh**e and broke and there is little in the way of funds to rectify that. Wael is well intentioned but I dont think the rest of the family are interested at all and as such we will do well just to tread water. I still believe pulling out of the UWE deal was right and do not trust any of the previous BoD to be the answer. Hugo i think your sentiment just about sums up what most of the fan base on here feels Take each games as it comes, support the team and let the owners do what the want to do in their time because as fans there is F##k all we can do about it
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2017 13:55:56 GMT
So after the recent Wael Video are we any more convinced that the family will do good in time ? Personally I was more convinced that we will see nothing happen of significance. Bar new bogs and moving the shop! Woopdy Woo!
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Post by blueridge on Dec 4, 2017 14:05:27 GMT
I think that Hamer (for once) told the truth last week and DC has also made it clear where we are. I think the SH interview was good because it got a lot of things out in the open and has stopped a lot of the little drip drip stuff we have been subjected to on here. Basically, we are sh**e and broke and there is little in the way of funds to rectify that. Wael is well intentioned but I dont think the rest of the family are interested at all and as such we will do well just to tread water. I still believe pulling out of the UWE deal was right and do not trust any of the previous BoD to be the answer. Agree with what you are saying apart from the last sentence because we don't know the reasons why. Thought the Wael interview was a bit of a 'car crash' interview - all we can do is wait and see and keep supporting the Manager. The month of January could be a pivotal time for the club.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2017 14:32:02 GMT
I think that Hamer (for once) told the truth last week and DC has also made it clear where we are. I think the SH interview was good because it got a lot of things out in the open and has stopped a lot of the little drip drip stuff we have been subjected to on here. Basically, we are sh**e and broke and there is little in the way of funds to rectify that. Wael is well intentioned but I dont think the rest of the family are interested at all and as such we will do well just to tread water. I still believe pulling out of the UWE deal was right and do not trust any of the previous BoD to be the answer. Agree with what you are saying apart from the last sentence because we don't know the reasons why. Thought the Wael interview was a bit of a 'car crash' interview - all we can do is wait and see and keep supporting the Manager. The month of January could be a pivotal time for the club. Yes for sure as without experienced additions in January then I feel it will only be a matter of time before going back down again. I'm interested to see their "Ambition" level in January before having A PROPER MELTDOWN!
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Dec 4, 2017 14:32:05 GMT
I think that Hamer (for once) told the truth last week and DC has also made it clear where we are. I think the SH interview was good because it got a lot of things out in the open and has stopped a lot of the little drip drip stuff we have been subjected to on here. Basically, we are sh**e and broke and there is little in the way of funds to rectify that. Wael is well intentioned but I dont think the rest of the family are interested at all and as such we will do well just to tread water. I still believe pulling out of the UWE deal was right and do not trust any of the previous BoD to be the answer. Agree with this Hugo except the last sentence. I think it is more likely that the ALQs pulled out of the UWE because they didn't want to or couldn't afford to invest the necessary capital.
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Post by aghast on Dec 4, 2017 15:13:09 GMT
"These things take time. A lot of time".
Ominous words.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Dec 4, 2017 15:29:52 GMT
"These things take time. A lot of time". Ominous words. wish somebody could quantify time please, that way it will get built before we start it....
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Post by Jester on Dec 4, 2017 16:36:28 GMT
I haven't posted for a while, but I'm afraid that the whole atmosphere is going 'toxic'. Hamers' interview the other week gave me no confidence (I think we all accept that he's just a mouthpiece) and Waels' was not much better. I think Wael has the club at his heart, but 'Big Bruvver' is unwilling to commit the funds we need to develop. I believe that January will prove how much our owners (or should I say Hani?) want the club. If DC doesn't get some sort of decent budget, I think 'the writing will be on the wall' and it will only be a question of time before they pull out (and DC goes!). I hope I'm wrong, but talking with many other fans, that is the general consensus.
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Post by blueridge on Dec 4, 2017 18:02:10 GMT
I totally understood the reasons why the family bought the Football Club in the first place.
I'm really struggling now to understsnd why as Investment Bankers they 'appear' to want to remain as the Club's owners.
Genuine Question - Anyone any ideas?
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 4, 2017 18:25:45 GMT
Perhaps they don't and they are looking to offload but what a car crash that would be if Wael had announced that in his interview on Saturday? Although it's not really clear what their intentions were from the start, did they assume they could force though a deal with the UWE which suited them, or was it always their intention to slowly build the club from the ground up piece by piece, perhaps even our last gasp promotion caught them out as that moved the whole project forward 2 or 3 seasons.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2017 18:48:48 GMT
I totally understood the reasons why the family bought the Football Club in the first place. I'm really struggling now to understsnd why as Investment Bankers they 'appear' to want to remain as the Club's owners. Genuine Question - Anyone any ideas? That is the question everyone should be asking- why are they still here when it seems they either do not have the appetite, or the money, or even both, to give the club a modern infrastructure in a timely manner. Wael made it sound like siginificant progress could be decades away rather than years and that is if you even believe he will achieve it at all. I rather fear that, as the colony land is owned by 'dwane sports colony', Hani now smells a chance to build a training ground on the cheap and charge Bristol Rovers a not very peppercorn rent to use the facilities- well, what facilities there are for a 2 million spend. All in all it seems to me we would be best served if they publicly declared the club is for sale so that if there is someone with the financial clout to rescue the UWE deal or explore other sites they can get involved ASAP. I really really worry that both Hamer and Wael reiterated that they are in it for the long haul when they don't seem to have the means to make anything happen.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2017 20:16:49 GMT
Not a good year for presidents. The simplest solution is usually correct, so most likely there is bitcoin buried under the mem, colony & Vic, Wael is finding a way to excavate them without disrupting the local charity shops/millennials.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 4, 2017 20:20:13 GMT
I totally understood the reasons why the family bought the Football Club in the first place. I'm really struggling now to understsnd why as Investment Bankers they 'appear' to want to remain as the Club's owners. Genuine Question - Anyone any ideas? That is the question everyone should be asking- why are they still here when it seems they either do not have the appetite, or the money, or even both, to give the club a modern infrastructure in a timely manner. Wael made it sound like siginificant progress could be decades away rather than years and that is if you even believe he will achieve it at all. I rather fear that, as the colony land is owned by 'dwane sports colony', Hani now smells a chance to build a training ground on the cheap and charge Bristol Rovers a not very peppercorn rent to use the facilities- well, what facilities there are for a 2 million spend. All in all it seems to me we would be best served if they publicly declared the club is for sale so that if there is someone with the financial clout to rescue the UWE deal or explore other sites they can get involved ASAP. I really really worry that both Hamer and Wael reiterated that they are in it for the long haul when they don't seem to have the means to make anything happen. So what if Wael declares the club's for sale then find there's no takers prepared to take on the debts, what does he do then?
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Post by xplosivgas on Dec 4, 2017 20:36:21 GMT
I think that Hamer (for once) told the truth last week and DC has also made it clear where we are. I think the SH interview was good because it got a lot of things out in the open and has stopped a lot of the little drip drip stuff we have been subjected to on here. Basically, we are sh**e and broke and there is little in the way of funds to rectify that. Wael is well intentioned but I dont think the rest of the family are interested at all and as such we will do well just to tread water. I still believe pulling out of the UWE deal was right and do not trust any of the previous BoD to be the answer. Agree with this Hugo except the last sentence. I think it is more likely that the ALQs pulled out of the UWE because they didn't want to or couldn't afford to invest the necessary capital. I too disagree about the UWE. Had it got over the line - even if it was not on ideal terms - I feel we'd be in a far better position. That's because if it went tits up financially, we'd be an appealing prospect for prospective new owners - as we'd still have a sparkly new ground with a good fan base. I'm sure someone would have put a bid in to enable the owners to cut their losses and move on. However.,,now we're well and truly stuck at the Mem, I can't see anyone ever wanting to mount a serious take over. Especially several years down the line by which time we'll have suffocating debts.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2017 20:59:16 GMT
That is the question everyone should be asking- why are they still here when it seems they either do not have the appetite, or the money, or even both, to give the club a modern infrastructure in a timely manner. Wael made it sound like siginificant progress could be decades away rather than years and that is if you even believe he will achieve it at all. I rather fear that, as the colony land is owned by 'dwane sports colony', Hani now smells a chance to build a training ground on the cheap and charge Bristol Rovers a not very peppercorn rent to use the facilities- well, what facilities there are for a 2 million spend. All in all it seems to me we would be best served if they publicly declared the club is for sale so that if there is someone with the financial clout to rescue the UWE deal or explore other sites they can get involved ASAP. I really really worry that both Hamer and Wael reiterated that they are in it for the long haul when they don't seem to have the means to make anything happen. So what if Wael declares the club's for sale then find there's no takers prepared to take on the debts, what does he do then? Well then we are stuck, but it is better to know that and see that he was prepared to step aside than saying nothing other than 'we/I am in it for the long haul' when, at this point in time and with an outside shot of UWE still happening, it may not be best for the club for the Al Qadi family to own it.
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Post by William Wilson on Dec 5, 2017 7:40:54 GMT
Not a good year for presidents. The simplest solution is usually correct, so most likely there is bitcoin buried under the mem, colony & Vic, Wael is finding a way to excavate them without disrupting the local charity shops/millennials. Lol. Makes more sense than anything else that`s been suggested.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 5, 2017 8:12:54 GMT
Agree with this Hugo except the last sentence. I think it is more likely that the ALQs pulled out of the UWE because they didn't want to or couldn't afford to invest the necessary capital. I too disagree about the UWE. Had it got over the line - even if it was not on ideal terms - I feel we'd be in a far better position. That's because if it went tits up financially, we'd be an appealing prospect for prospective new owners - as we'd still have a sparkly new ground with a good fan base. I'm sure someone would have put a bid in to enable the owners to cut their losses and move on. However.,,now we're well and truly stuck at the Mem, I can't see anyone ever wanting to mount a serious take over. Especially several years down the line by which time we'll have suffocating debts. I wonder if Coventry fans said the same when they sold Highfield Rd, or even our owners said when we sold Eastville? Same thing could happen at the UWE as the Ricoh where we could end up bing tenants to Bristol RFC if we did ever fall on hard times, although why would the ALQ's gamble £30/40m of investors money in the hope it would turn out OK in the end?
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Post by singupgas on Dec 5, 2017 10:08:01 GMT
For me it is only a matter of time before the current owners walk away.
They have pretty much pulled out on all projects that meant the most to fans. Somehow our fan base has been convinced that UWE was never good idea, they have also not submitted any plans for the training ground. When it has come to the crunch, they do not want to invest serious money required for a stadium and training facility. I feel like the fan base has been conned personally. We are not much better off than we were when Nick Higgs handed over the reigns. We are the same dog, flashier collar, same old sh!t.
Anyone believing the bollocks about revenue streams aren't worth it, needs a word with themselves. BRFC will never be a money making football club, like most football clubs.
Sorry but we are in such a poor position now, only the playing side of things i will support and believe in.
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