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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2018 15:11:50 GMT
Because it won’t happen with our current owners I beg to differ All will come clear very soon You still get up the downs henners?
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Post by toddy1953 on Feb 7, 2018 15:14:00 GMT
Because it won’t happen with our current owners I beg to differ All will come clear very soon How soon is very soon Henbury? Or are you trying to raise our spirits?
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Post by sallycinnamon on Feb 7, 2018 15:26:38 GMT
I agree with you on most of what you say but I do think that football in general has more appeal than it did back then . Better stadiums , more money (not us), hooligans a relatively thing of the past Spot on. Times change & the hooligan element certainly did football no favours in the 70's & 80's. Football was in the doldrums & we nearly went out of business in the 80's due to the off field situation. Luckily enough the Dunfords kept us going along with some inspiration on the field. But whilst Football as a business has enjoyed a resurgence off the field, as a club, we have, for various reasons stayed in the past - ok we are better off than some, who haven't survived. I have confidence that DC under the current restraints can keep us in this division, even challenge the play offs next season, but can he make us fit for the championship with the lack of infrastructure off the field? Well, he could as the owners have invested in a development squad, and there could be one or two gems unearthed there - but as things stand at present, the likelihood is they would get sold to pay off debts. As things tend to go in cycles it's probable the Football bubble will burst again. Unless we get the infrastructure soon we could be in the same position as we were in the 80's with no way of generating off field finance, what happens then? Wael, had to convince the family initially to get on board with us, but since August, I think he's had another fight to keep them on side. Some positive news on the Stadium & Training ground is needed soon or DC might be tempted by the next offer he gets. Probably the most sensible post I’ve read to date.
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Post by sallycinnamon on Feb 7, 2018 15:27:27 GMT
I beg to differ All will come clear very soon How soon is very soon Henbury? Or are you trying to raise our spirits? He’s probably talking about waels trip to Boston
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Post by sallycinnamon on Feb 7, 2018 15:31:27 GMT
Because you’d be happy to stagnate in our ramshackle stadium in the lower echelons of league football as long we had nice pasty’s and that’s because you’re resigned to it , it’s a trait I think with our fans nowadays that we’ve had to put up with so much cr@p , broken dreams and utter bullsh1t that we’re brainwashed thus we just go along with it nowadays , hence my sarcasm. You have different immediate unachievable ambitions to the rest of us. And that makes you a very bitter anti board person and always will be until you realise that our owners, staff and everyone else involved with BRFC are working hard to turn things around. Shame you can't see this. I disagree I don’t think they’re doing enough , although Wael may gave the clubs best interests at heart 🤔it seems certain the rest of his family don’t , I’m also aware contrary to many on here that Steve Hamer actually does have the clubs best interests at heart and is feeling aggrieved and underwhelmed by our current standing.
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Post by peterhooper57 on Feb 7, 2018 15:39:45 GMT
Spot on. Times change & the hooligan element certainly did football no favours in the 70's & 80's. Football was in the doldrums & we nearly went out of business in the 80's due to the off field situation. Luckily enough the Dunfords kept us going along with some inspiration on the field. But whilst Football as a business has enjoyed a resurgence off the field, as a club, we have, for various reasons stayed in the past - ok we are better off than some, who haven't survived. I have confidence that DC under the current restraints can keep us in this division, even challenge the play offs next season, but can he make us fit for the championship with the lack of infrastructure off the field? Well, he could as the owners have invested in a development squad, and there could be one or two gems unearthed there - but as things stand at present, the likelihood is they would get sold to pay off debts. As things tend to go in cycles it's probable the Football bubble will burst again. Unless we get the infrastructure soon we could be in the same position as we were in the 80's with no way of generating off field finance, what happens then? Wael, had to convince the family initially to get on board with us, but since August, I think he's had another fight to keep them on side. Some positive news on the Stadium & Training ground is needed soon or DC might be tempted by the next offer he gets. Probably the most sensible post I’ve read to date. Great post, not sure the so called "football hooligan" element, have gone away, simply got older, the MEM is full of old men who use to do a bit in the 70's, the problem Rovers are facing IMO is there are not enough youngsters coming through the turnstiles. Waq & Hani need to move the refurbishment of our shambolic facilities forward asap, or in 20 years time, we could be so far behind, it will become very difficult to attract any large crowds.
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Post by dinsdale on Feb 7, 2018 16:03:12 GMT
We need proper investment Agreed, but what does that look like? Is proper investment gradually consolidating the squad by adding 2 or 3 "better" players each window for a couple of seasons while working on a plan to develop facilities in the background? Or is it chucking loads of cash at one single transfer window and risking the whole culture at the club that has taken so long to rebuild whilst entering into a poorly negotiated deal to build a shiny new stadium? Obviously the first option only works if they are actually working on a plan in the background!! Invest in recruitment (scouting) and invest in the fans (stadium) twi massive income streams for league 1. So far they have spent f**k all on anything other then a branded hand dryer.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 7, 2018 16:19:21 GMT
You have different immediate unachievable ambitions to the rest of us. And that makes you a very bitter anti board person and always will be until you realise that our owners, staff and everyone else involved with BRFC are working hard to turn things around. Shame you can't see this. I disagree I don’t think they’re doing enough , although Wael may gave the clubs best interests at heart 🤔it seems certain the rest of his family don’t , I’m also aware contrary to many on here that Steve Hamer actually does have the clubs best interests at heart and is feeling aggrieved and underwhelmed by our current standing. Thanks Steve.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 7, 2018 16:23:16 GMT
Probably the most sensible post I’ve read to date. Great post, not sure the so called "football hooligan" element, have gone away, simply got older, the MEM is full of old men who use to do a bit in the 70's, the problem Rovers are facing IMO is there are not enough youngsters coming through the turnstiles. Waq & Hani need to move the refurbishment of our shambolic facilities forward asap, or in 20 years time, we could be so far behind, it will become very difficult to attract any large crowds. Could not agree more. My boys U10s team are going to watch Bristol Sport for the second time in 2 seasons again in a months time and I know for a fact that after the last time they went at least 6 dad's have been back with their kids. One of the even said he prefers Rovers but the ground is sh**. That's 6 more families lost. We a hemorrhaging a generation of fans by being so far behind the times.
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Post by baggins on Feb 7, 2018 16:26:48 GMT
You have different immediate unachievable ambitions to the rest of us. And that makes you a very bitter anti board person and always will be until you realise that our owners, staff and everyone else involved with BRFC are working hard to turn things around. Shame you can't see this. I disagree I don’t think they’re doing enough , although Wael may gave the clubs best interests at heart 🤔it seems certain the rest of his family don’t , I’m also aware contrary to many on here that Steve Hamer actually does have the clubs best interests at heart and is feeling aggrieved and underwhelmed by our current standing. If he feels like that, then he should sod off somewhere else.
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Post by blueridge on Feb 7, 2018 16:49:48 GMT
I disagree I don’t think they’re doing enough , although Wael may gave the clubs best interests at heart 🤔it seems certain the rest of his family don’t , I’m also aware contrary to many on here that Steve Hamer actually does have the clubs best interests at heart and is feeling aggrieved and underwhelmed by our current standing. If he feels like that, then he should sod off somewhere else. Typical childish rant - suggest you get back to playing with your Lego.
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Post by baggins on Feb 7, 2018 16:50:52 GMT
If he feels like that, then he should sod off somewhere else. Typical childish rant - suggest you get back to playing with your Lego. Good one.
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Post by tommym9 on Feb 7, 2018 17:05:36 GMT
Great post, not sure the so called "football hooligan" element, have gone away, simply got older, the MEM is full of old men who use to do a bit in the 70's, the problem Rovers are facing IMO is there are not enough youngsters coming through the turnstiles. Waq & Hani need to move the refurbishment of our shambolic facilities forward asap, or in 20 years time, we could be so far behind, it will become very difficult to attract any large crowds. Could not agree more. My boys U10s team are going to watch Bristol Sport for the second time in 2 seasons again in a months time and I know for a fact that after the last time they went at least 6 dad's have been back with their kids. One of the even said he prefers Rovers but the ground is sh**. That's 6 more families lost. We a hemorrhaging a generation of fans by being so far behind the times. This is the scary bit for me. The next generation of fans in Bristol will more than likely be Sh1!heads. Some of my mates who are Prem team supporters have said they'll get season tickets at AG if they get to the Prem. The club need to be doing something now to attract the next generation of supporters.
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Post by singupgas on Feb 7, 2018 17:08:22 GMT
Could not agree more. My boys U10s team are going to watch Bristol Sport for the second time in 2 seasons again in a months time and I know for a fact that after the last time they went at least 6 dad's have been back with their kids. One of the even said he prefers Rovers but the ground is sh**. That's 6 more families lost. We a hemorrhaging a generation of fans by being so far behind the times. This is the scary bit for me. The next generation of fans in Bristol will more than likely be Sh1!heads. Some of my mates who are Prem team supporters have said they'll get season tickets at AG if they get to the Prem. The club need to be doing something now to attract the next generation of supporters. We better get building then!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2018 17:16:00 GMT
Its interesting to see that Rovers compare quite well with other clubs that have come up. The important thing in the bigger picture is to make sure league 2 is somewhere the club never goes to again. For the club to be a strong league one club that has the occasional visit to the championship for a spell is what Rovers need to get back too. Its what all our predecessors as fans saw and grew up with. That was Bristol Rovers. To demand more than that is being arrogant. Sure if the club does get lucky enough to be promoted to the championship it would be good to try to cement the club as a strong championship club and im sure with the right work that can be obtained. One step at a time though. The club needs to be competing as a strong league one club and aiming at average seasonal crowds of 10,000+ Just rebuilding the East side of the stadium to a 6000 seater stand with all the facilities would set the club in the right direction. If the fans really wanted it ,they could mostly fund that themselves given time.
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Post by chilly1883 on Feb 7, 2018 17:58:39 GMT
Where are they ever week? I would suggest a lot of those people are floating fans who also went to watch City at Wembley. I brought a few mates to our last Wembley trip, but they wouldn't come every week. Not just those fans we would be targeting though is it ?because they’re the fickle ones that would show up for Man Utd and Man City home and away Re: sh1thead cup run , the amount of families that we miss out on as well as new fans because they are unlikely to come to our sh1tpit of a stadium when they can go to Trashton every fortnight and sit and eat in comfort without getting wet and looking at a mouldy old green carpet whilst sipping on their half time thatchers, we need a stadium end of story and they’ll come , sooner rather than later because I don’t see many kids watching Rovers of late and our fans average age has got to be 40+ at least. Do you go with your eyes shut? Plenty of kids there, every game.
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Post by sallycinnamon on Feb 7, 2018 19:03:12 GMT
I disagree I don’t think they’re doing enough , although Wael may gave the clubs best interests at heart 🤔it seems certain the rest of his family don’t , I’m also aware contrary to many on here that Steve Hamer actually does have the clubs best interests at heart and is feeling aggrieved and underwhelmed by our current standing. If he feels like that, then he should sod off somewhere else. Perhaps he feels like that because he knows a damn sight more than you and he can see what’s happening before his eyes and yet he’s copping the flack from the fans for being fed next to f@ck all information wise . By the way I’ve only just changed my opinion on the chap from what I’ve heard from 2 separate sources of which both work for the club.
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Post by sallycinnamon on Feb 7, 2018 19:05:39 GMT
Not just those fans we would be targeting though is it ?because they’re the fickle ones that would show up for Man Utd and Man City home and away Re: sh1thead cup run , the amount of families that we miss out on as well as new fans because they are unlikely to come to our sh1tpit of a stadium when they can go to Trashton every fortnight and sit and eat in comfort without getting wet and looking at a mouldy old green carpet whilst sipping on their half time thatchers, we need a stadium end of story and they’ll come , sooner rather than later because I don’t see many kids watching Rovers of late and our fans average age has got to be 40+ at least. Do you go with your eyes shut? Plenty of kids there, every game. There’s kids yes because they’ll be there with the parents who go all the time but not as many as what there could be if our facilities were more attractive .
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Post by sallycinnamon on Feb 7, 2018 19:07:47 GMT
Its interesting to see that Rovers compare quite well with other clubs that have come up. The important thing in the bigger picture is to make sure league 2 is somewhere the club never goes to again. For the club to be a strong league one club that has the occasional visit to the championship for a spell is what Rovers need to get back too. Its what all our predecessors as fans saw and grew up with. That was Bristol Rovers. To demand more than that is being arrogant. Sure if the club does get lucky enough to be promoted to the championship it would be good to try to cement the club as a strong championship club and im sure with the right work that can be obtained. One step at a time though. The club needs to be competing as a strong league one club and aiming at average seasonal crowds of 10,000+ Just rebuilding the East side of the stadium to a 6000 seater stand with all the facilities would set the club in the right direction. If the fans really wanted it ,they could mostly fund that themselves given time. Nice if they would build a 6000 seater stand but we both know it won’t happen because there are no revenue streams by rebuilding the Mem .
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 7, 2018 19:08:18 GMT
How can fans fund a new stand, firstly, the owners don't seem interested in seeking external assistance, secondly, how are fans going to raise £5m for a new stand, plus what do we get in return, shafted just like the SC were in the past where their 8% shareholding seems to count for nothing?
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