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Post by socrates on Feb 19, 2018 15:16:03 GMT
I like DC overall, but think it was a massive clanger not picking TB on Saturday (weird don't you think he wasn't even on the bench as he was fit ?) and then just as bad ,watching the game, by subbing our 2 highest goalscorers with 20 to go. I guess if the ref had blown a minute earlier nobody would have questioned TB not starting on Saturday? Perhaps expecting him to play 3 games in a week was a tall order, although personally I'd have played RS. The big question now is what will DC do on Saturday now that TL, TB & TC are all fit? Perhaps play one in midfield to replace OC. I’m not sure Rod Stewart would have won that header if Tony Craig couldn’t.
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Post by spiess1 on Feb 19, 2018 15:52:09 GMT
Rovers' problems for a few years have stemmed from the Bristolians - OC, and CL (as before when Stuart Campbell 'carried him'). There! I've said it.
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Post by clearblue on Feb 19, 2018 16:24:22 GMT
I think you were amazed too. ? Woosh !!
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Post by peterhooper57 on Feb 19, 2018 16:38:23 GMT
DC needed to have a look at Lockyer and Craig together; I am sure Broadbent will get more game time, I guess this now puts Sweeney under a bit of pressure as well.
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Post by poorblue on Feb 19, 2018 17:52:54 GMT
DC needed to have a look at Lockyer and Craig together; I am sure Broadbent will get more game time, I guess this now puts Sweeney under a bit of pressure as well. Craig, Lockyear and Broadbent are all permanent signings. I presume also they will be here next season. Sweeny is on loan and likely to be gone next season. Meyenese is permanent, will he wont he be in contention next season time will tell. I think therefore next season we will have 4 first team central defenders. The development squad will have younger player coming up on the fringe to compete as well. J Clarke and Partington are in the mix for this CM position. As far as Craig is concerned, and this is not as yet a criticism, it appears to me in the games he has played thus far 2 headed goals have been conceded with him in front of the opposing scoring attacker and his feet not leaving the ground. I saw no holding down or shirt pulling in either goal. He is not the tallest of players especially as Lockyer is of a similar height. It is alleged his best position is either CM or LB. Perhaps Brown ought to be more concerned with playing time. UTG
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Post by stevek192 on Feb 19, 2018 20:32:30 GMT
Berhill4 I wasn't picking out anybody! I don't doubt that Tom Broadbent has won more headers what I was saying was that he hasn't won a lot in the six yard box and I agree lots of others have been guilty of that too and I must say I agree with you that perhaps the keeper should be claiming more however Smith is not that sort of keeper and the players know he is not going to leave his line. No doubt DC does too. The only thing I did say was that the defence were better on Saturday than last Tuesday and IMO the goal conceded was a great goal after a foul on Byron Moore. The players to blame for Saturdays defeat were the players in front of the defence.
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Post by midlandgas213 on Feb 19, 2018 21:08:27 GMT
DC needed to have a look at Lockyer and Craig together; I am sure Broadbent will get more game time, I guess this now puts Sweeney under a bit of pressure as well. That's what reserve games and friendlies are for not first team games
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Post by midlandgas213 on Feb 19, 2018 21:09:35 GMT
We should not be surprised of any changes DC makes he is so unpredictable
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 19, 2018 21:15:25 GMT
Berhill4 I wasn't picking out anybody! I don't doubt that Tom Broadbent has won more headers what I was saying was that he hasn't won a lot in the six yard box and I agree lots of others have been guilty of that too and I must say I agree with you that perhaps the keeper should be claiming more however Smith is not that sort of keeper and the players know he is not going to leave his line. No doubt DC does too. The only thing I did say was that the defence were better on Saturday than last Tuesday and IMO the goal conceded was a great goal after a foul on Byron Moore. The players to blame for Saturdays defeat were the players in front of the defence. "Great goal" what did Wimbledon players do that was great bar put cross into the box we failed to deal with? I suggest you watch the highlights again as I can't see where Moore is fouled, unless you consider a player just falling over when trying to tackle is now considered a foul?
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Post by berhill4 on Feb 19, 2018 21:17:17 GMT
Berhill4 I wasn't picking out anybody! I don't doubt that Tom Broadbent has won more headers what I was saying was that he hasn't won a lot in the six yard box and I agree lots of others have been guilty of that too and I must say I agree with you that perhaps the keeper should be claiming more however Smith is not that sort of keeper and the players know he is not going to leave his line. No doubt DC does too. The only thing I did say was that the defence were better on Saturday than last Tuesday and IMO the goal conceded was a great goal after a foul on Byron Moore. The players to blame for Saturdays defeat were the players in front of the defence. Well maybe that's where the problem is maybe Craig was expecting to be smashed by Smith hence why he didn't challenge for the ball but to dig someone that was not playing and then assume that they would would have done no better is a bit much, and I admire how you are able to predict things !! PS Can I have tomorrows euro millions numbers please ?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2018 0:37:27 GMT
It wasn't surprising for me to see us lose to a headed goal. When you think both Lockyer and Craig are hardly big dominant centre halves. That is an obvious weakness for any opposition team to target. They are good centre halves in their own right but not sure it will work as a partnership. Defence was not a big issue for us Saturday but we did miss Broadbent. He has been a revelation recently. If he wasn't going to play though then why not start with Sweeney, who is a dominant centre half and would have complimented one of the other 2 better. Also I'm sure he would have been fired up against his home town team.Good point, even more maddening he didn't start then as he would have also been useful at the other end of the pitch. I Wownder what Stoke think about neither RS nor DT ever playing and DC suggesting he hopes to get DT on the cheap? Why should we give a stuff what stoke think? Telford has made about 11 appearances for us,his first league games since 2015. If telford or sweeney are released stoke will have no influence on where they end up.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2018 0:43:45 GMT
Its his first league season so he must be thrilled to have made so many appearances. He had a shaky game v rochdale imo. He had his worst game of the season against lyle taylor in the home match v wimbledon. The manager picks his team on a match to match basis and always has done,all the players must know that. So you don't think he's been one of our best players this season ? Do you think your best players should play in every game, if fit ? No i dont think hes been one of our best players this season. The manager believes in the squad ethic and has always left out our best players at times,thats how he operates and i respect that. Broadbent looks a good prospect and has mostly done well considering this is his 1st season as a pro.
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Post by markczgas on Feb 20, 2018 10:08:40 GMT
So you don't think he's been one of our best players this season ? Do you think your best players should play in every game, if fit ? No i dont think hes been one of our best players this season. The manager believes in the squad ethic and has always left out our best players at times,thats how he operates and i respect that. Broadbent looks a good prospect and has mostly done well considering this is his 1st season as a pro. Cheers bud
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Post by twertonboy on Feb 20, 2018 10:12:10 GMT
The only reason Broadbent didn’t play is Tom Lockyer is undroppable and Tony Craig has been promised game time...craig is awful in the air and there’s no way Broadbent would have missed that header
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Post by markczgas on Feb 20, 2018 10:17:49 GMT
The only reason Broadbent didn’t play is Tom Lockyer is unstoppable and Tony Craig has been promised game time...craig is awful in the air and there’s no way Broadbent would have missed that header Agree, but it's more about why not play your best players if they are fit ? One of the oddest things DC has done for me. I would've been happy to see Lockyer partner Broadbent ( they were forging a good partnership before Tom's unfortunate injury) and moved Craig to left back. I thought this was where Craig was going to play when he came in - so surprised about that. Wimbledon also pumped high balls straight down the pitch all game so to put in 2 smallish centre halves didn't seem like smart tactics.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Feb 20, 2018 10:37:58 GMT
The only reason Broadbent didn’t play is Tom Lockyer is unstoppable and Tony Craig has been promised game time...craig is awful in the air and there’s no way Broadbent would have missed that header Agree, but it's more about why not play your best players if they are fit ? One of the oddest things DC has done for me. I would've been happy to see Lockyer partner Broadbent ( they were forging a good partnership before Tom's unfortunate injury) and moved Craig to left back. I thought this was where Craig was going to play when he came in - so surprised about that. Wimbledon also pumped high balls straight down the pitch all game so to put in 2 smallish centre halves didn't seem like smart tactics. I don't get why you would rest Broadbent and not Craig when Broadbent would have complimented Lockyer better. Craig is 32 and has hardly played any games this season and it was his 3rd game in a week. Of course Wimbledon were going to pump balls forward with those 2 at CB's. They were very poor at it though but it was no surprise to see us lose to a headed goal. Ellis wasn't at his best but he was rested in the week so I would have kept him on. Also Sercombe probably looked our best chance of something happening. I know it was his 3rd game in a week but he didn't look particularly tired. I don't think we can afford to have the likes of Nichols, Moore and Bennett all on the pitch together in a tight away game.
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Post by warehamgas on Feb 20, 2018 12:49:56 GMT
The only reason Broadbent didn’t play is Tom Lockyer is unstoppable and Tony Craig has been promised game time...craig is awful in the air and there’s no way Broadbent would have missed that header Agree, but it's more about why not play your best players if they are fit ? One of the oddest things DC has done for me. I would've been happy to see Lockyer partner Broadbent ( they were forging a good partnership before Tom's unfortunate injury) and moved Craig to left back. I thought this was where Craig was going to play when he came in - so surprised about that. Wimbledon also pumped high balls straight down the pitch all game so to put in 2 smallish centre halves didn't seem like smart tactics.Although surprised at both CHs being less tall than others they dealt with the Wimbledon tactics really well. Their size, or lack of it, didn’t stop them from playing well. It was just that one cross which obviously resulted in the goal. And in the end the goal given away was not just Tony Craig was it, it was cross coming in due to JoeP being, for that few seconds, outnumbered on the wing, Craig not clearing and perhaps keeper not coming for it. I was right at othere end and that was the one corner which was difficult to see. But we move on now and concentrate on the Scunthorpe match and plan for three points. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Feb 20, 2018 12:56:52 GMT
Agree, but it's more about why not play your best players if they are fit ? One of the oddest things DC has done for me. I would've been happy to see Lockyer partner Broadbent ( they were forging a good partnership before Tom's unfortunate injury) and moved Craig to left back. I thought this was where Craig was going to play when he came in - so surprised about that. Wimbledon also pumped high balls straight down the pitch all game so to put in 2 smallish centre halves didn't seem like smart tactics. I don't get why you would rest Broadbent and not Craig when Broadbent would have complimented Lockyer better. Craig is 32 and has hardly played any games this season and it was his 3rd game in a week. Of course Wimbledon were going to pump balls forward with those 2 at CB's. They were very poor at it though but it was no surprise to see us lose to a headed goal. Ellis wasn't at his best but he was rested in the week so I would have kept him on. Also Sercombe probably looked our best chance of something happening. I know it was his 3rd game in a week but he didn't look particularly tired. I don't think we can afford to have the likes of Nichols, Moore and Bennett all on the pitch together in a tight away game.That was true, for the last 15 minutes when we were struggling to hold onto possession none of those three looked as if they could hold the ball up and wait to play others in at the right end. Despite the goal, Moore looked the more likely to be able to do it. But we know this is what DC does, he will gamble to try and win a match even if it costs us the one point we could have kept. It’s part of him and sometimes it works and sometimes we have Saturday afternoon! UTG!
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Post by markczgas on Feb 24, 2018 20:28:49 GMT
No Tom again. What's going on ?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 24, 2018 20:31:06 GMT
Can't see how Craig is keeping him out of the team at all.
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