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Post by lastminutewinner on Feb 25, 2018 4:19:54 GMT
IMO Broadbent isn't playing as he brings the ball out of defence too much. Judging by today's performance, DC wants his defenders to defend, and just lump the ball forward for the front 2. The last defender that did that was Andy Tillson, and he didnt do too badly....
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Post by peterhooper57 on Feb 25, 2018 5:56:17 GMT
IMO Broadbent isn't playing as he brings the ball out of defence too much. Judging by today's performance, DC wants his defenders to defend, and just lump the ball forward for the front 2. The last defender that did that was Andy Tillson, and he didnt do too badly.... Totally agree, Tilly was a tremendous reader of the game, Tom Broadbent is of similar stock, IMO .did not deserve to be dropped against Wimbledon. Craig and Lockyer are too similar, short and lump the ball, pick one, l don’t mind which and put Tom back in.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 25, 2018 7:17:50 GMT
I'm Sorry First get your facts right Mr Broadbent lol ! Secondly I've not turned on anyone I'll think you find the only person who is trying to defend themselves for turning on players is you absolute clueless !!! look how many times in this thread you've had to try and defend what you've said !! A common thread with my posting is giving bristol rovers players a fair chance. it strikes me that the best argument you can come up with for dc to play broadbent is to slag off craig. Im not keen on the scapegoating thing that you and others are so fond of so more than happy to defend what i say thanks. I don't think people are scapegoating. It's natural to judge new signings based on who they replace in the team isn't it? I'm not on the Craig is crap band wagon but I just can't see how he is any better than what we already have in any way at all. Hope I'm wrong and he goes on to flourish. If he doesn't he is a wasted signing. We are safe now. As others have said, I would rather we develop TB than prop up an aging pros career for the rest of the season. If TC goes on to become a Macca type player then fair enough but so far he doesn't look that commanding and doesn't appear to be organising the defence any better than we were before he joined.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 25, 2018 7:58:40 GMT
Let's do this thread without insulting other posters, please.
It's only a judgement call regarding two players, after all.
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Post by gashead1981 on Feb 25, 2018 8:02:59 GMT
Butterfly I agree with you half the time but that's because you are so skitzso its unreal. I didnt say James Clarke was the answer I said he was a better option than Craig. f**king read posts properly you fool Touched a nerve did i? You seriously think j clarke is better than tony craig? Craig made one error which ended in a goal,last week at wimbledon otherwise hes been very good. Tony Craig has cost us at least 3 goals since coming into the team, he had 2 get out of jail free cards with us equalising or scoring the winner in 2 of those games and he cost a point against Wimbledon. IMO he has looked half the player of Broadbent in most of the games. As a side note, Berhil, Bluebutterfly and lastminutewinner: please keep it civil, you can make your points without calling each other names and being aggressive. It’s not the school playground.
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Post by gashead1981 on Feb 25, 2018 8:04:12 GMT
Edit: AF and I must have been thinking the same at the same time.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 9:45:21 GMT
The Craig signing was different to the other two you mention, firstly because we were in the conference then and league 1 is quicker, secondly Craig is reluctant to move home to the West Country, thirdly Craig is probably on double the wages compared with the two you mention. Add to that as you said yourself he's not really a central defender, he's a full-back who has lost what speed he had and IMO is too short for a central defender playing alongside TL. He's also holding up Broadbent's progress which is the biggest problem I have with the signing. What do you do with him next season? If you keep playing him then Broadbent is wasted and if you drop him you are paying a big wage which could be spent on the midfielder we really need. Well pirate kindly pointed out that he played 25 times at centre back and 31 at left back last season. Craig is 6ft tall the same as sergio ramas.The only decent point your making is that craig could be blocking broadbents progress by denying him league experience. Thats the managers call at the end of the day and im sure hes made it with a cool head designed to make sure we stay up in league one and more. Its not tony craigs fault that dc has made that call. 'Ramos is a physically strong player who excels in the air, due to his elevation and heading accuracy, making him a goal threat on set-pieces; he is also a competent, aggressive tackler. He is gifted with pace,good technical ability, as well as good distribution and crossing ability.' Don't think Craig has these capabilities. A false comparison to say the least.
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Post by bluegas on Feb 25, 2018 10:21:11 GMT
Thing that amuses me here is that if we checked back, I'll bet there was a fair bit of criticism of signing TB - "Why do we need another ex-Conference player", etc.. Whatever - I don't think DC is so dim as to impede TB's career.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 12:34:59 GMT
The disrespect is fully mutual i can assure you.Embittered would be scouts dont cut it it with me. Good, I take that as a compliment coming from a schizophrenic simpleton Schizo maybe? But better that than never saying anything positive ever. When things are good your simply not on here.
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Post by singupgas on Feb 25, 2018 12:42:26 GMT
Broadbent and Craig best centre back pairing. Craig offers in knowhow what Broadbent makes up with his youthfulness and fitness.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 12:50:14 GMT
A common thread with my posting is giving bristol rovers players a fair chance. it strikes me that the best argument you can come up with for dc to play broadbent is to slag off craig. Im not keen on the scapegoating thing that you and others are so fond of so more than happy to defend what i say thanks. I don't think people are scapegoating. It's natural to judge new signings based on who they replace in the team isn't it? I'm not on the Craig is crap band wagon but I just can't see how he is any better than what we already have in any way at all. Hope I'm wrong and he goes on to flourish. If he doesn't he is a wasted signing. We are safe now. As others have said, I would rather we develop TB than prop up an aging pros career for the rest of the season. If TC goes on to become a Macca type player then fair enough but so far he doesn't look that commanding and doesn't appear to be organising the defence any better than we were before he joined. We will just have to see how craig pans out this season and next. Broadbent suddenly has a massive fan club but not so long ago he was getting hammer for being inadequate etc[bradford,wimbledon]. As far as i can tell we could still go up or down as the leagues so tight.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 12:57:42 GMT
Touched a nerve did i? You seriously think j clarke is better than tony craig? Craig made one error which ended in a goal,last week at wimbledon otherwise hes been very good. Tony Craig has cost us at least 3 goals since coming into the team, he had 2 get out of jail free cards with us equalising or scoring the winner in 2 of those games and he cost a point against Wimbledon. IMO he has looked half the player of Broadbent in most of the games. As a side note, Berhil, Bluebutterfly and lastminutewinner: please keep it civil, you can make your points without calling each other names and being aggressive. It’s not the school playground. I think 3 goals is nonsense,,for example the shrewsbury goal was a lovely flat cross into the perfect area which is the type that makes defenders of any quality struggle. Just picking the nearest player to a goalscorer and blaming him for a goal is naive imo.
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Post by berhill4 on Feb 25, 2018 13:09:56 GMT
I don't think people are scapegoating. It's natural to judge new signings based on who they replace in the team isn't it? I'm not on the Craig is crap band wagon but I just can't see how he is any better than what we already have in any way at all. Hope I'm wrong and he goes on to flourish. If he doesn't he is a wasted signing. We are safe now. As others have said, I would rather we develop TB than prop up an aging pros career for the rest of the season. If TC goes on to become a Macca type player then fair enough but so far he doesn't look that commanding and doesn't appear to be organising the defence any better than we were before he joined. We will just have to see how craig pans out this season and next. Broadbent suddenly has a massive fan club but not so long ago he was getting hammer for being inadequate etc[bradford,wimbledon]. As far as i can tell we could still go up or down as the leagues so tight. LOL You just can't let it go you keep going back to Bradford and Wimbledon if that the best you can do ! don't think anyone apart from you has said he was inadequate your like the Andy Jacobs of Gas chat full of crap !! I feel you have a real issue here is it jealousy because he achieved something with his life and to think he defended his country for people like you !! very sad !!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 13:18:58 GMT
We will just have to see how craig pans out this season and next. Broadbent suddenly has a massive fan club but not so long ago he was getting hammer for being inadequate etc[bradford,wimbledon]. As far as i can tell we could still go up or down as the leagues so tight. LOL You just can't let it go you keep going back to Bradford and Wimbledon if that the best you can do ! don't think anyone apart from you has said he was inadequate your like the Andy Jacobs of Gas chat full of crap !! I feel you have a real issue here is it jealousy because he achieved something with his life and to think he defended his country for people like you !! very sad !! If you go back through the threads you will find that im very pro tom broadbent all im saying with craig is i understand why he signed him. DC decided he needed experience over inexperience. The weird anti-army stuff your levelling at me is way off the mark especially as my son is a serving soldier.
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Post by baggins on Feb 25, 2018 13:22:38 GMT
We will just have to see how craig pans out this season and next. Broadbent suddenly has a massive fan club but not so long ago he was getting hammer for being inadequate etc[bradford,wimbledon]. As far as i can tell we could still go up or down as the leagues so tight. LOL You just can't let it go you keep going back to Bradford and Wimbledon if that the best you can do ! don't think anyone apart from you has said he was inadequate your like the Andy Jacobs of Gas chat full of crap !! I feel you have a real issue here is it jealousy because he achieved something with his life and to think he defended his country for people like you !! very sad !! No need for your last comment, bit off.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 25, 2018 13:27:14 GMT
We will just have to see how craig pans out this season and next. Broadbent suddenly has a massive fan club but not so long ago he was getting hammer for being inadequate etc[bradford,wimbledon]. As far as i can tell we could still go up or down as the leagues so tight. LOL You just can't let it go you keep going back to Bradford and Wimbledon if that the best you can do ! don't think anyone apart from you has said he was inadequate your like the Andy Jacobs of Gas chat full of crap !! I feel you have a real issue here is it jealousy because he achieved something with his life and to think he defended his country for people like you !! very sad !! Try to keep the discussion to the actual football, please. This sort of comment is below the belt.
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Post by berhill4 on Feb 25, 2018 13:41:38 GMT
LOL You just can't let it go you keep going back to Bradford and Wimbledon if that the best you can do ! don't think anyone apart from you has said he was inadequate your like the Andy Jacobs of Gas chat full of crap !! I feel you have a real issue here is it jealousy because he achieved something with his life and to think he defended his country for people like you !! very sad !! Try to keep the discussion to the actual football, please. This sort of comment is below the belt.But true ! Rather than some of the made up rubbish posted on here !
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Feb 25, 2018 14:51:06 GMT
IMO Broadbent isn't playing as he brings the ball out of defence too much. Judging by today's performance, DC wants his defenders to defend, and just lump the ball forward for the front 2. The last defender that did that was Andy Tillson, and he didnt do too badly.... He didn't play for DC though, did he?
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Post by baggins on Feb 25, 2018 14:53:31 GMT
Try to keep the discussion to the actual football, please. This sort of comment is below the belt. But true ! Rather than some of the made up rubbish posted on here ! You're new here huh?
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Post by stevek192 on Feb 25, 2018 14:55:29 GMT
Tom Broadbent is growing into a good player in his first season in League Football but Tony Craig has been brought in for his experience and I feel that DC has been justified as we have defensively played very well in the last couple of games but lets be honest that Craig is going to struggle with high crosses into the six yard box as is any defender unless they are 6ft 5 or over and then they are probably going to struggler on the ground.
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