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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 19:00:00 GMT
Well pirate kindly pointed out that he played 25 times at centre back and 31 at left back last season. Craig is 6ft tall the same as sergio ramas.The only decent point your making is that craig could be blocking broadbents progress by denying him league experience. Thats the managers call at the end of the day and im sure hes made it with a cool head designed to make sure we stay up in league one and more. Its not tony craigs fault that dc has made that call. 'Ramos is a physically strong player who excels in the air, due to his elevation and heading accuracy, making him a goal threat on set-pieces; he is also a competent, aggressive tackler. He is gifted with pace,good technical ability, as well as good distribution and crossing ability.' Don't think Craig has these capabilities. A false comparison to say the least. craig and lockyer are barely 6ft tall but both are good in the air. I think they are the 2 best central defenders at the club right now,you and others disagree,fine.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 19:11:48 GMT
'Ramos is a physically strong player who excels in the air, due to his elevation and heading accuracy, making him a goal threat on set-pieces; he is also a competent, aggressive tackler. He is gifted with pace,good technical ability, as well as good distribution and crossing ability.' Don't think Craig has these capabilities. A false comparison to say the least. craig and lockyer are barely 6ft tall but both are good in the air. I think they are the 2 best central defenders at the club right now,you and others disagree,fine. Yes, Craig does divide opinions and it was that same at Millwall, about this time last year, one Millwall fan wrote 'Craig is woeful at CB, his ability in the air, positional sense, understanding that pivotal central role and general poor distribution put Webster (his centre back partner) under more pressure. His move to left back was initially not much better, again playing decent passes and joining in with the attack seemed beyond him'. Still, I accept that you and others see something in him that I don't and as you say it's DC's decision but it would not be mine. But the Ramos of league 1 ? I don't think so, and I don't think you do really.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 25, 2018 19:17:05 GMT
'Ramos is a physically strong player who excels in the air, due to his elevation and heading accuracy, making him a goal threat on set-pieces; he is also a competent, aggressive tackler. He is gifted with pace,good technical ability, as well as good distribution and crossing ability.' Don't think Craig has these capabilities. A false comparison to say the least. craig and lockyer are barely 6ft tall but both are good in the air. I think they are the 2 best central defenders at the club right now,you and others disagree,fine. What's the betting if Locks & TB or RS are picked on Tuesday and play well you'll be posting later this week TL & TB/RS are the "2 best central defenders at the club right now" at least other posters stick to their views not just come across as a total WUM. Pre TC in the whole of January we let in 3 goals in 4 games, post TC in Feb we've let in 8 goals in 5 games so far. The stats don't back up TL/TC are the best pairing, but as DC's shown with James and Nichols he's a stubborn when it comes to keep on picking certain new signings.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 19:20:50 GMT
craig and lockyer are barely 6ft tall but both are good in the air. I think they are the 2 best central defenders at the club right now,you and others disagree,fine. Yes, Craig does divide opinions and it was that same at Millwall, about this time last year, one Millwall fan wrote 'Craig is woeful at CB, his ability in the air, positional sense, understanding that pivotal central role and general poor distribution put Webster (his centre back partner) under more pressure. His move to left back was initially not much better, again playing decent passes and joining in with the attack seemed beyond him'. Still, I accept that you and others see something in him that I don't and as you say it's DC's decision but it would not be mine. But the Ramos of league 1 ? I don't think so, and I don't think you do really. Point i was making is that its not all about height even at centre-back and on any forum about any player i could show you a negative comment. What i think some people have missed is that dc had tough decisions to make and he decided to bring in an experienced central defender and play him. I get his thinking on this.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 19:26:09 GMT
craig and lockyer are barely 6ft tall but both are good in the air. I think they are the 2 best central defenders at the club right now,you and others disagree,fine. What's the betting if Locks & TB or RS are picked on Tuesday and play well you'll be posting later this week TL & TB/RS are the "2 best central defenders at the club right now" at least other posters stick to their views not just come across as a total WUM. Pre TC in the whole of January we let in 3 goals in 4 games, post TC in Feb we've let in 8 goals in 5 games so far. The stats don't back up TL/TC are the best pairing, but as DC's shown with James and Nichols he's a stubborn when it comes to keep on picking certain new signings. Yes, DC certainly can be stubborn but I guess he would not survive long in management without that stubborn streak. Like you I have recognized the inconsistency in the views put forward by Bluebutterfly but in fairness he's giving up heaping praise on Nichols.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 19:48:03 GMT
craig and lockyer are barely 6ft tall but both are good in the air. I think they are the 2 best central defenders at the club right now,you and others disagree,fine. What's the betting if Locks & TB or RS are picked on Tuesday and play well you'll be posting later this week TL & TB/RS are the "2 best central defenders at the club right now" at least other posters stick to their views not just come across as a total WUM. Pre TC in the whole of January we let in 3 goals in 4 games, post TC in Feb we've let in 8 goals in 5 games so far. The stats don't back up TL/TC are the best pairing, but as DC's shown with James and Nichols he's a stubborn when it comes to keep on picking certain new signings. As you have clearly pointed out,it would be better if you were picking the team then your centre-backs could play and we would win more matches.
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Post by twertonboy on Feb 25, 2018 20:12:11 GMT
craig and lockyer are barely 6ft tall but both are good in the air. I think they are the 2 best central defenders at the club right now,you and others disagree,fine. Yes, Craig does divide opinions and it was that same at Millwall, about this time last year, one Millwall fan wrote 'Craig is woeful at CB, his ability in the air, positional sense, understanding that pivotal central role and general poor distribution put Webster (his centre back partner) under more pressure. His move to left back was initially not much better, again playing decent passes and joining in with the attack seemed beyond him'. Still, I accept that you and others see something in him that I don't and as you say it's DC's decision but it would not be mine. But the Ramos of league 1 ? I don't think so, and I don't think you do really. It’s obvious with anyone with a football brain what Craig does wrong in a game...I.e positional play is awful/distribution is very basic and if it’s not going the left back it’s thumped back to the opposition/hides away from general play/not great in the air. He’s not a full back to dc’s liking as he’s not got it in him to run up and down the wing and no skill set... Another duff signing and it’s always more frustrating as we Don’t make many... The thing is with Dc he knows he’s not gonna get the sack and has time on his side to be stubborn with bad players he’s bought to hopefully get a miracle turn around... Nichols is another waste of money, He did the same with Luke James... If dc was at another club without any history behind him the fans would be kicking off and not turning up!
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 25, 2018 21:52:19 GMT
"If dc was at another club without any history behind him the fans would be kicking off and not turning up"
Perhaps the 70% home win rate is something to do with why we turn up each week? Although even your own post contradicts itself as you suggest DC doesn't make many duff signings but then you want us to kick off/stay at home as he's signed one or two?
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Post by markczgas on Feb 25, 2018 21:52:54 GMT
You'd think after three and a bit years we'd have learnt to trust DC with team selection and not guess what's going on behind the scenes with players..... Anyone and everyone makes mistake in life whatever their job
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Post by markczgas on Feb 25, 2018 21:56:39 GMT
I repeat what I posted 21 hours ago! 'I thought TB went through some fitness work on the pitch before the teams came out for warm-up today. In the past other players like James Clarke have done this. DC would never tell us if he was injured!' DC answered a question from Radio Bris interviewer that he was fit to play v Wimbledon but was not considered for selection.
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Post by markczgas on Feb 25, 2018 21:58:40 GMT
"If dc was at another club without any history behind him the fans would be kicking off and not turning up" Perhaps the 70% home win rate is something to do with why we turn up each week? Although even your own post contradicts itself as you suggest DC doesn't make many duff signings but then you want us to kick off/stay at home as he's signed one or two? Topper you're trying to stir things - he's only giving his opinion.
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Post by pirate49 on Feb 25, 2018 22:43:22 GMT
I repeat what I posted 21 hours ago! 'I thought TB went through some fitness work on the pitch before the teams came out for warm-up today. In the past other players like James Clarke have done this. DC would never tell us if he was injured!' DC answered a question from Radio Bris interviewer that he was fit to play v Wimbledon but was not considered for selection. .....and then did not feature in the midweek Development squad game v Cheltenham ??
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Post by daniel300380 on Feb 26, 2018 0:41:48 GMT
Yes, Craig does divide opinions and it was that same at Millwall, about this time last year, one Millwall fan wrote 'Craig is woeful at CB, his ability in the air, positional sense, understanding that pivotal central role and general poor distribution put Webster (his centre back partner) under more pressure. His move to left back was initially not much better, again playing decent passes and joining in with the attack seemed beyond him'. Still, I accept that you and others see something in him that I don't and as you say it's DC's decision but it would not be mine. But the Ramos of league 1 ? I don't think so, and I don't think you do really. It’s obvious with anyone with a football brain what Craig does wrong in a game...I.e positional play is awful/distribution is very basic and if it’s not going the left back it’s thumped back to the opposition/hides away from general play/not great in the air. He’s not a full back to dc’s liking as he’s not got it in him to run up and down the wing and no skill set... Another duff signing and it’s always more frustrating as we Don’t make many... The thing is with Dc he knows he’s not gonna get the sack and has time on his side to be stubborn with bad players he’s bought to hopefully get a miracle turn around... Nichols is another waste of money, He did the same with Luke James... If dc was at another club without any history behind him the fans would be kicking off and not turning up! James was signed on loan, so no risk. Nichols had been a bad signing so far, but he could still turn it around. Craig was brought in for his leadership qualities and experience more than anything else. The majority of players have improved under DC. The majority played at a lower level, before signing for us. Easy to highlight some bad signings, every manager makes bad signings!
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Post by hollyhillgas on Feb 26, 2018 11:55:39 GMT
Overheard at the Rochdale game that Tom will be off in the summer because they won't pay the money. Could be Lockyer or Broadbent or Nichols. There again it could have been his sat nav update.
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Post by daniel300380 on Feb 26, 2018 11:59:48 GMT
Overheard at the Rochdale game that Tom will be off in the summer because they won't pay the money. Could be Lockyer or Broadbent or Nichols. There again it could have been his sat nav update. Broadbent just signed a contract extension. Nichols will still be under contract. Not sure on Lockyer's contact, but if we were planning on selling him, why put him straight back in the team, when we were doing OK without him?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 26, 2018 12:06:41 GMT
Overheard at the Rochdale game that Tom will be off in the summer because they won't pay the money. Could be Lockyer or Broadbent or Nichols. There again it could have been his sat nav update. Broadbent just signed a contract extension. Nichols will still be under contract. Not sure on Lockyer's contact, but if we were planning on selling him, why put him straight back in the team, when we were doing OK without him? Wasn't it announced that Lockyer signed a new deal in January??
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Post by Henbury Gas on Feb 26, 2018 12:10:04 GMT
Yes, Craig does divide opinions and it was that same at Millwall, about this time last year, one Millwall fan wrote 'Craig is woeful at CB, his ability in the air, positional sense, understanding that pivotal central role and general poor distribution put Webster (his centre back partner) under more pressure. His move to left back was initially not much better, again playing decent passes and joining in with the attack seemed beyond him'. Still, I accept that you and others see something in him that I don't and as you say it's DC's decision but it would not be mine. But the Ramos of league 1 ? I don't think so, and I don't think you do really. It’s obvious with anyone with a football brain what Craig does wrong in a game...I.e positional play is awful/distribution is very basic and if it’s not going the left back it’s thumped back to the opposition/hides away from general play/not great in the air. He’s not a full back to dc’s liking as he’s not got it in him to run up and down the wing and no skill set... Another duff signing and it’s always more frustrating as we Don’t make many... The thing is with Dc he knows he’s not gonna get the sack and has time on his side to be stubborn with bad players he’s bought to hopefully get a miracle turn around... Nichols is another waste of money, He did the same with Luke James... If dc was at another club without any history behind him the fans would be kicking off and not turning up! Thank you little Lee
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Post by axegas on Feb 26, 2018 12:14:29 GMT
Broadbent just signed a contract extension. Nichols will still be under contract. Not sure on Lockyer's contact, but if we were planning on selling him, why put him straight back in the team, when we were doing OK without him? Wasn't it announced that Lockyer signed a new deal in January?? Yep just more useless terrace gossip. The only Tom at the club who could be leaving in the summer is Nichols but even that is unlikely given DC's approach to giving players a chance.
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Post by daniel300380 on Feb 26, 2018 12:29:18 GMT
Broadbent just signed a contract extension. Nichols will still be under contract. Not sure on Lockyer's contact, but if we were planning on selling him, why put him straight back in the team, when we were doing OK without him? Wasn't it announced that Lockyer signed a new deal in January?? Yes think we might let him go though, if a Championship team, put in a decent offer for him.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 26, 2018 12:43:24 GMT
Wasn't it announced that Lockyer signed a new deal in January?? Yes think we might let him go though, if a Championship team, put in a decent offer for him. Of course, but that doesn't equate to a terrace rumour that we can't afford him. I'm just tired of people's readiness to slate the owners without knowing any facts. A mate told me the other week that in the pub a group of Rovers fans were slating the club because they dont provide the kids teams with kit and the kids have to pay for it themselves. The club is broke, there is no money. The actual truth is that in the past the club provided kit to youth teams and it wasn't looked after. Kit was being left behind and kids were not taking any responsibility for their stuff. The decision was made to ask the kids to buy their own kit in order to teach them some responsibility and some self discipline. It was absolutely not a cosy savings exercise because the club turned down the offer for the kids kit to be paid for. (Source: Steve Hamer) Sadly, the truth of the situation was not something these fans either knew or seemed to care about finding out for themselves. All that matters is that some people felt they had something to moan about. It's very sad that this is what some Rovers fans have become.
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