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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 26, 2018 8:54:46 GMT
Every single person who walks in the Men says we need a new stadium. Doesn't mean they're going to blow £50m building the thing. NH announced when the ALQ's took over the club it would mean the new stadium could proceed without Sainbury's money, then Wael in one of his first interviews said a new stadium was a must, who was going to pay for it if it wasn't the ALQ's or investors supporting them? Imo, I think Dwane wanted to blow £50M on a stadium that would generate a steady stream of decent revenue for the club. I think they didn't want to blow £50M on a stadium that would generate a steady stream of decent revenue for UWE. |
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Post by sallycinnamon on Feb 26, 2018 8:59:08 GMT
NH announced when the ALQ's took over the club it would mean the new stadium could proceed without Sainbury's money, then Wael in one of his first interviews said a new stadium was a must, who was going to pay for it if it wasn't the ALQ's or investors supporting them? Imo, I think Dwane wanted to blow £50M on a stadium that would generate a steady stream of decent revenue for the club. I think they didn't want to blow £50M on a stadium that would generate a steady stream of decent revenue for UWE. We don’t know the full facts though do we? I just don’t think they want to spend the money anymore for whatever the reason because otherwise what’s changed in regards to the downscaled plans for the Colony? |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 26, 2018 9:02:11 GMT
Imo, I think Dwane wanted to blow £50M on a stadium that would generate a steady stream of decent revenue for the club. I think they didn't want to blow £50M on a stadium that would generate a steady stream of decent revenue for UWE. We don’t know the full facts though do we? I just don’t think they want to spend the money anymore for whatever the reason because otherwise what’s changed in regards to the downscaled plans for the Colony? No. We don't know any facts. But just a few posts ago you said that we are not getting a new stadium. In all honesty I don't know how we can say we are not. Just as we can't say we definitely are. |
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Post by sallycinnamon on Feb 26, 2018 9:05:46 GMT
We don’t know the full facts though do we? I just don’t think they want to spend the money anymore for whatever the reason because otherwise what’s changed in regards to the downscaled plans for the Colony? No. We don't know any facts. But just a few posts ago you said that we are not getting a new stadium. In all honesty I don't know how we can say we are not. Just as we can't say we definitely are. Can you put hand on heart on say we are? Funny how the owners didn’t even have a plan b quite evidently after the fail of uwe yet contrary to what Steve Hamer has said previously. |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 26, 2018 9:08:55 GMT
Imo, I think Dwane wanted to blow £50M on a stadium that would generate a steady stream of decent revenue for the club. I think they didn't want to blow £50M on a stadium that would generate a steady stream of decent revenue for UWE. We don’t know the full facts though do we? I just don’t think they want to spend the money anymore for whatever the reason because otherwise what’s changed in regards to the downscaled plans for the Colony? Yeah, I think the interpretation is down to ones general view/trust of Dwane and the AQs. My interpretation fits the facts we know, but so does yours. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Feb 26, 2018 9:21:11 GMT
Imo, I think Dwane wanted to blow £50M on a stadium that would generate a steady stream of decent revenue for the club. I think they didn't want to blow £50M on a stadium that would generate a steady stream of decent revenue for UWE. We don’t know the full facts though do we? I just don’t think they want to spend the money anymore for whatever the reason because otherwise what’s changed in regards to the downscaled plans for the Colony? Timings. When they first took over the UWE was set to go once funding was in place. You'll recall from previous interviews shortly afterwards that Wael said there were "issues" to be resolved, then later it was said that Dwane/BRFC and UWE had agreed then "revisited" certain points thought previously settled. Anyway, that is now beside the point. If the UWE was started (on agreed terms) then the revenue streams would start from 2019 or thereabouts. However, we are starting again so the revenue streams won't be realised for a further 12 to 24 months at least. In my opinion what we are seeing is a calculated release of funds to start the Colony (seedcorn money if you like) until they are certain of the hows/whys/wherefores of where we go now. Which is better, £2m now on basic facilities ready in 18 months or wait or £7m in one go but not start it until 2021? (Figures and dates are purely illustrative). I've said it before, I don't think the targets have changed, just the way we get there. |
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Post by RD on Feb 26, 2018 9:26:03 GMT
No. We don't know any facts. But just a few posts ago you said that we are not getting a new stadium. In all honesty I don't know how we can say we are not. Just as we can't say we definitely are. Can you put hand on heart on say we are? Funny how the owners didn’t even have a plan b quite evidently after the fail of uwe yet contrary to what Steve Hamer has said previously. Maybe they have, but they don't want to go public, for fear of every single Gashead scrutinising every minuscule detail, as we have done and continue to do with absolutely everything they do/don't do. Not saying its' wrong that we do - I think it's only natural given we all love the club. Just pointing out that it is possible that they may be going about their business quietly in the background. There are far fewer leaks these days, so it certainly seems possible that things could be happening in the background that we wouldn't know about. |
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Post by pirate49 on Feb 26, 2018 9:29:05 GMT
Can you put hand on heart on say we are? Funny how the owners didn’t even have a plan b quite evidently after the fail of uwe yet contrary to what Steve Hamer has said previously. There are far fewer leaks these days, so it certainly seems possible that things could be happening in the background that we wouldn't know about. Or..............there's nothing to leak!? You pays your money and you makes your choice! |
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Post by sallycinnamon on Feb 26, 2018 9:40:47 GMT
We don’t know the full facts though do we? I just don’t think they want to spend the money anymore for whatever the reason because otherwise what’s changed in regards to the downscaled plans for the Colony? Timings. When they first took over the UWE was set to go once funding was in place. You'll recall from previous interviews shortly afterwards that Wael said there were "issues" to be resolved, then later it was said that Dwane/BRFC and UWE had agreed then "revisited" certain points thought previously settled. Anyway, that is now beside the point. If the UWE was started (on agreed terms) then the revenue streams would start from 2019 or thereabouts. However, we are starting again so the revenue streams won't be realised for a further 12 to 24 months at least. In my opinion what we are seeing is a calculated release of funds to start the Colony (seedcorn money if you like) until they are certain of the hows/whys/wherefores of where we go now. Which is better, £2m now on basic facilities ready in 18 months or wait or £7m in one go but not start it until 2021? (Figures and dates are purely illustrative). I've said it before, I don't think the targets have changed, just the way we get there. Quite possibly but after so many knocks from the past and the present owners it would be prudent/pessimistic to treat as much . |
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Post by sallycinnamon on Feb 26, 2018 9:45:17 GMT
Can you put hand on heart on say we are? Funny how the owners didn’t even have a plan b quite evidently after the fail of uwe yet contrary to what Steve Hamer has said previously. Maybe they have, but they don't want to go public, for fear of every single Gashead scrutinising every minuscule detail, as we have done and continue to do with absolutely everything they do/don't do. Not saying its' wrong that we do - I think it's only natural given we all love the club. Just pointing out that it is possible that they may be going about their business quietly in the background. There are far fewer leaks these days, so it certainly seems possible that things could be happening in the background that we wouldn't know about. Except being guilty of the biggest leak of all which was the collapse of the stadium deal when everything was agreed and the contract just had to be signed. They MAY have a plan b now but they didn’t have a plan b when the deal collapsed because as you will remember with Waels awkward interview in the aftermath. |
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Post by warehamgas on Feb 26, 2018 9:55:10 GMT
Can you put hand on heart on say we are? Funny how the owners didn’t even have a plan b quite evidently after the fail of uwe yet contrary to what Steve Hamer has said previously. Maybe they have, but they don't want to go public, for fear of every single Gashead scrutinising every minuscule detail, as we have done and continue to do with absolutely everything they do/don't do. Not saying its' wrong that we do - I think it's only natural given we all love the club. Just pointing out that it is possible that they may be going about their business quietly in the background. There are far fewer leaks these days, so it certainly seems possible that things could be happening in the background that we wouldn't know about. That fits with what Wael said last week. He gave a view of the future but was clear that we would only hear when ther was something to hear. And because there are fewer leaks there’s more conjecture and everyone could be right because no one really knows. UTG! |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 26, 2018 9:56:39 GMT
Maybe they have, but they don't want to go public, for fear of every single Gashead scrutinising every minuscule detail, as we have done and continue to do with absolutely everything they do/don't do. Not saying its' wrong that we do - I think it's only natural given we all love the club. Just pointing out that it is possible that they may be going about their business quietly in the background. There are far fewer leaks these days, so it certainly seems possible that things could be happening in the background that we wouldn't know about. Except being guilty of the biggest leak of all which was the collapse of the stadium deal when everything was agreed and the contract just had to be signed. They MAY have a plan b now but they didn’t have a plan b when the deal collapsed because as you will remember with Waels awkward interview in the aftermath. I don't think the person who leaked the UWE story is likely to know much about current operations any more. You asked me earlier about do I believe/trust them because we've been lied to so many times in the past. I guess I would say that I fully understand that but the AQs haven't lied to us. Yet. |
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Post by warehamgas on Feb 26, 2018 9:59:51 GMT
NH announced when the ALQ's took over the club it would mean the new stadium could proceed without Sainbury's money, then Wael in one of his first interviews said a new stadium was a must, who was going to pay for it if it wasn't the ALQ's or investors supporting them? Imo, I think Dwane wanted to blow £50M on a stadium that would generate a steady stream of decent revenue for the club. I think they didn't want to blow £50M on a stadium that would generate a steady stream of decent revenue for UWE. Well done AF, got it in one. All conjecture of course but it seems the most logical explanation. I don’t know but that is exactly why I thought the UWE went kaput. For Dwayne Sports read BRFC and they are not going to sign a scheme where they don’t get income streams from it and someone else does. It would be nonsense. UTG! |
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Post by sallycinnamon on Feb 26, 2018 10:01:50 GMT
Except being guilty of the biggest leak of all which was the collapse of the stadium deal when everything was agreed and the contract just had to be signed. They MAY have a plan b now but they didn’t have a plan b when the deal collapsed because as you will remember with Waels awkward interview in the aftermath. I don't think the person who leaked the UWE story is likely to know much about current operations any more. You asked me earlier about do I believe/trust them because we've been lied to so many times in the past. I guess I would say that I fully understand that but the AQs haven't lied to us. Yet. Fair enough point about them not telling us lies yet but the question was hand on heart can you see a Stadium ever getting built? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 10:02:48 GMT
misleading thread title - mods please edit with immediate effect
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Post by Henbury Gas on Feb 26, 2018 10:14:27 GMT
Who says anything has changed? Lack of the new stadium explains that. Its on its way |
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Post by sallycinnamon on Feb 26, 2018 10:19:54 GMT
Lack of the new stadium explains that. Its on its way Don’t start with your dreamworld again Henbury, you been on those fags again? |
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Post by sallycinnamon on Feb 26, 2018 10:20:47 GMT
misleading thread title - mods please edit with immediate effect Perhaps lack of news.... would be more apt |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 26, 2018 10:54:06 GMT
I don't think the person who leaked the UWE story is likely to know much about current operations any more. You asked me earlier about do I believe/trust them because we've been lied to so many times in the past. I guess I would say that I fully understand that but the AQs haven't lied to us. Yet. Fair enough point about them not telling us lies yet but the question was hand on heart can you see a Stadium ever getting built? It's such a difficult question to answer. If you want to push me, then yeah I think they will either build off site or redevelop the Mem. Nothing else really makes sense right now. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 26, 2018 10:58:51 GMT
Maybe they have, but they don't want to go public, for fear of every single Gashead scrutinising every minuscule detail, as we have done and continue to do with absolutely everything they do/don't do. Not saying its' wrong that we do - I think it's only natural given we all love the club. Just pointing out that it is possible that they may be going about their business quietly in the background. There are far fewer leaks these days, so it certainly seems possible that things could be happening in the background that we wouldn't know about. Except being guilty of the biggest leak of all which was the collapse of the stadium deal when everything was agreed and the contract just had to be signed. They MAY have a plan b now but they didn’t have a plan b when the deal collapsed because as you will remember with Waels awkward interview in the aftermath. But neither party has ever suggested that's true? I can't see the now ALQ's committing to spending vast sums of money aboard on just a sports project given what's happening in Jordan. |
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