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Post by Henbury Gas on Feb 26, 2018 14:05:22 GMT
Watch the video Wael TOLD me in that video he will build a stadium, is that difficult to comprehend from what he said ? So you haven’t spoke to him thankyou for clearing up the confusion so you have been convinced by this last interview yet the 2 previous interviews were not exactly inspired were they ? So we move on to his last interview where he hasn’t got a solid plan in place otherwise he wouldn’t be talking about plans bcde.. etc so we aren’t anywhere near anything being off the floor with this in fact he hasn’t got any finance in place yet hence why he was in Boston the other week on the scrounge. So where on the grand scheme of things are we with this Henbury as you seem to be ITK more than most on this forum? Yes he has a plan B C D E But he cannot put it out to public because he did not want to compromise the other parties involved. You did watch the video and understand that bit ? BTW I have stated many times in here I KNOW NOTHING, you do read my posts do you ? IN YOUR OPINION DO YOU THINK WAEL IS LYING TO US ??
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Post by lavalamp on Feb 26, 2018 14:05:39 GMT
I've been a Rovers fan for 38 years, how many Stadiums have I seen fall though? Mangotsfield, Severnside, New Mem, UWE and more.
They were all gonna happen, I've seen the artist impressions!
Dont worry though we've probably spent enough money on plans and consultants to buy the Mem without the need for a mortgage.
However, let's ignore all the previous years of bad management but instead crucify the current owners after just 2 years.
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Post by sallycinnamon on Feb 26, 2018 14:06:19 GMT
So you haven’t spoke to him thankyou for clearing up the confusion so you have been convinced by this last interview yet the 2 previous interviews were not exactly inspired were they ? So we move on to his last interview where he hasn’t got a solid plan in place otherwise he wouldn’t be talking about plans bcde.. etc so we aren’t anywhere near anything being off the floor with this in fact he hasn’t got any finance in place yet hence why he was in Boston the other week on the scrounge. So where on the grand scheme of things are we with this Henbury as you seem to be ITK more than most on this forum? He knows absolutely sweet FA like the the rest of us - just a WUM with nothing better to do. Time he grew up!!! I don’t think he’s a wind up merchant to be fair I just think he’s a fantasist who believes the moon is made of cream cheese 😂
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Post by baggins on Feb 26, 2018 14:06:54 GMT
Watch the video Wael TOLD me in that video he will build a stadium, is that difficult to comprehend from what he said ? So you haven’t spoke to him thankyou for clearing up the confusion so you have been convinced by this last interview yet the 2 previous interviews were not exactly inspired were they ? So we move on to his last interview where he hasn’t got a solid plan in place otherwise he wouldn’t be talking about plans bcde.. etc so we aren’t anywhere near anything being off the floor with this in fact he hasn’t got any finance in place yet hence why he was in Boston the other week on the scrounge. So where on the grand scheme of things are we with this Henbury as you seem to be ITK more than most on this forum? Hasn't got a solid plan in place? In Boston on the scrounge? No finance in place? Where are you getting this from? I'm sorry but you've got something against the Al-Qadi ownership and are doing your best to turn everyone against them. No idea why but it won't work. Quite frankly, it's pathetic.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Feb 26, 2018 14:08:05 GMT
He knows absolutely sweet FA like the the rest of us - just a WUM with nothing better to do. Time he grew up!!! I don’t think he’s a wind up merchant to be fair I just think he’s a fantasist who believes the moon is made of cream cheese 😂 Blue and white Cheese please and we will build a stadium to take this club to the next level
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Post by baggins on Feb 26, 2018 14:09:04 GMT
I've been a Rovers fan for 38 years, how many Stadiums have I seen fall though? Mangotsfield, Severnside, New Mem, UWE and more. They were all gonna happen, I've seen the artist impressions! Dont worry though we've probably spent enough money on plans and consultants to buy the Mem without the need for a mortgage. However, let's ignore all the previous years of bad management but instead crucify the current owners after just 2 years. "We've spent"?
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Post by sallycinnamon on Feb 26, 2018 14:14:36 GMT
So you haven’t spoke to him thankyou for clearing up the confusion so you have been convinced by this last interview yet the 2 previous interviews were not exactly inspired were they ? So we move on to his last interview where he hasn’t got a solid plan in place otherwise he wouldn’t be talking about plans bcde.. etc so we aren’t anywhere near anything being off the floor with this in fact he hasn’t got any finance in place yet hence why he was in Boston the other week on the scrounge. So where on the grand scheme of things are we with this Henbury as you seem to be ITK more than most on this forum? Yes he has a plan B C D E But he cannot put it out to public because he did not want to compromise the other parties involved. You did watch the video and understand that bit ? BTW I have stated many times in here I KNOW NOTHING, you do read my posts do you ? IN YOUR OPINION DO YOU THINK WAEL IS LYING TO US ?? You obviously don’t read my posts do you because you’re asking the same question(s) yet again , yes I watched the interview and no I don’t think he’s telling lies but just being economical with the facts. I don’t doubt he has a vision of a new stadium but I think he is unsure on how to deliver it or if he can deliver it hence all his plans b, c, d,e etc etc nothing to do with compromising other parties . I think financially they’re unsure on how this can be delivered, that is my opinion and that may change if things start happening but only then I will believe it when I’m sat in it because nothing inspires me to think on the contrary.
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Post by sallycinnamon on Feb 26, 2018 14:15:17 GMT
So you haven’t spoke to him thankyou for clearing up the confusion so you have been convinced by this last interview yet the 2 previous interviews were not exactly inspired were they ? So we move on to his last interview where he hasn’t got a solid plan in place otherwise he wouldn’t be talking about plans bcde.. etc so we aren’t anywhere near anything being off the floor with this in fact he hasn’t got any finance in place yet hence why he was in Boston the other week on the scrounge. So where on the grand scheme of things are we with this Henbury as you seem to be ITK more than most on this forum? Hasn't got a solid plan in place? In Boston on the scrounge? No finance in place? Where are you getting this from? I'm sorry but you've got something against the Al-Qadi ownership and are doing your best to turn everyone against them. No idea why but it won't work. Quite frankly, it's pathetic. Okay
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 26, 2018 14:18:11 GMT
The UWE were giving valuable land on their campus virtually for free. It is entirely reasonable that they would want some regular cash income from it e.g. match day car parking fees. Seems more likely that the deal failed because the Al Qadis couldn't raise or wouldn't spend the money required to build the stadium knowing that they would not be able to recoup this money when inevitably they lose interest and want out. Wael's statement 'it wasn't right for the club' without proper explanation is an insult to the long suffering supporters who desperately need, deserve and were promised the modern facilities that the UWE would have provided. Would you consider 20% of all matchday /other events income was a fair deal for the club to pay? 100% of 9,000 gates = £2m annual debts at the Mem, so 80% of 15,000+ at the UWE maybe a better deal, plus don't we keep on being told it's non match day income anyway where the top 6 are earning the real money? W
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Post by Henbury Gas on Feb 26, 2018 14:23:54 GMT
Yes he has a plan B C D E But he cannot put it out to public because he did not want to compromise the other parties involved. You did watch the video and understand that bit ? BTW I have stated many times in here I KNOW NOTHING, you do read my posts do you ? IN YOUR OPINION DO YOU THINK WAEL IS LYING TO US ?? You obviously don’t read my posts do you because you’re asking the same question(s) yet again , yes I watched the interview and no I don’t think he’s telling lies but just being economical with the facts. I don’t doubt he has a vision of a new stadium but I think he is unsure on how to deliver it or if he can deliver it hence all his plans b, c, d,e etc etc nothing to do with compromising other parties . I think financially they’re unsure on how this can be delivered, that is my opinion and that may change if things start happening but only then I will believe it when I’m sat in it because nothing inspires me to think on the contrary. Like you i will only believe it when i'm sat in the stadium watching a game My (Large) Gut feeling based on nothing is that the funding will be provided by a 3rd party (as yet unknown)
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 26, 2018 14:24:25 GMT
I was told at a game recently that we were waiting on a decision regarding a new stadium.
I was unable to confirm if it was an internal or external decision but was left with the impression that it was external.
Could be land, planning or financial, but again the impression I was left with was that it was not the current site that will be developed.
All a bit wishy-washy for the non believers I'm afraid but it felt more like positive news to come rather than trying to hide something.
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Post by lavalamp on Feb 26, 2018 14:31:38 GMT
I've been a Rovers fan for 38 years, how many Stadiums have I seen fall though? Mangotsfield, Severnside, New Mem, UWE and more. They were all gonna happen, I've seen the artist impressions! Dont worry though we've probably spent enough money on plans and consultants to buy the Mem without the need for a mortgage. However, let's ignore all the previous years of bad management but instead crucify the current owners after just 2 years. "We've spent"? I obviously mean the club, I'm not sure how much of my season ticket cost has contributed towards pie in the sky schemes and dreams.
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Post by sallycinnamon on Feb 26, 2018 14:35:30 GMT
I was told at a game recently that we were waiting on a decision regarding a new stadium. I was unable to confirm if it was an internal or external decision but was left with the impression that it was external. Could be land, planning or financial, but again the impression I was left with was that it was not the current site that will be developed. All a bit wishy-washy for the non believers I'm afraid but it felt more like positive news to come rather than trying to hide something. We all like to cling to hope and believe it or not however Baggins likes to paint me with some anti board agenda . I have heard similar rumblings myself but at the moment that’s all they are , hopefully something positive will happen and on that day I’ll be more than happy to be left with egg on ones boat race. UTG
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Post by stuart1974 on Feb 26, 2018 14:39:12 GMT
The UWE were giving valuable land on their campus virtually for free. It is entirely reasonable that they would want some regular cash income from it e.g. match day car parking fees. Seems more likely that the deal failed because the Al Qadis couldn't raise or wouldn't spend the money required to build the stadium knowing that they would not be able to recoup this money when inevitably they lose interest and want out. Wael's statement 'it wasn't right for the club' without proper explanation is an insult to the long suffering supporters who desperately need, deserve and were promised the modern facilities that the UWE would have provided. Would you consider 20% of all matchday /other events income was a fair deal for the club to pay? From memory I recall you said that UWE wanted pretty much all non match day revenue, did I remember right? In which case, based on SH's reference last year to having a 15,000 break even figure, less existing non match day revenue, less 20% of match day revenue plus cost of Championship football, plus build cost and interest equates to what average attendance? Higher than planned capacity I reckon, or much higher gate prices.
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Feb 26, 2018 14:52:10 GMT
Hasn't got a solid plan in place? In Boston on the scrounge? No finance in place? Where are you getting this from? I'm sorry but you've got something against the Al-Qadi ownership and are doing your best to turn everyone against them. No idea why but it won't work. Quite frankly, it's pathetic. Okay I noticed you didn't answer his question, why not?
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Post by tommym9 on Feb 26, 2018 15:11:13 GMT
I was told at a game recently that we were waiting on a decision regarding a new stadium. I was unable to confirm if it was an internal or external decision but was left with the impression that it was external. Could be land, planning or financial, but again the impression I was left with was that it was not the current site that will be developed. All a bit wishy-washy for the non believers I'm afraid but it felt more like positive news to come rather than trying to hide something. Torn about this. I really like where the Mem is situated (although the stadium is rubbish), but if we have to move to grow then so be it. I'm not a fan of the out of town stadia (MK, Oxford, etc) as its just soulless. I like that we have a ground that is local to a lot of people and has some great pubs within a 5 minute walk.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 15:16:25 GMT
Would you consider 20% of all matchday /other events income was a fair deal for the club to pay? From memory I recall you said that UWE wanted pretty much all non match day revenue, did I remember right? In which case, based on SH's reference last year to having a 15,000 break even figure, less existing non match day revenue, less 20% of match day revenue plus cost of Championship football, plus build cost and interest equates to what average attendance? Higher than planned capacity I reckon, or much higher gate prices. No, I said UWE were wanting percentage of none matchday revenue. Since that time I have had it con firmed what that figure was.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 15:18:21 GMT
I was told at a game recently that we were waiting on a decision regarding a new stadium. I was unable to confirm if it was an internal or external decision but was left with the impression that it was external. Could be land, planning or financial, but again the impression I was left with was that it was not the current site that will be developed. All a bit wishy-washy for the non believers I'm afraid but it felt more like positive news to come rather than trying to hide something. Your a lot closer to the truth than the majority on here Hugo. We will all know before seasons end.
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Post by oldgas on Feb 26, 2018 16:05:08 GMT
I was told at a game recently that we were waiting on a decision regarding a new stadium. I was unable to confirm if it was an internal or external decision but was left with the impression that it was external. Could be land, planning or financial, but again the impression I was left with was that it was not the current site that will be developed. All a bit wishy-washy for the non believers I'm afraid but it felt more like positive news to come rather than trying to hide something. Go on then Hugo, I'll nibble on the bait: Who was it that wriggled under the blanket to whisper sweet nothings in your ear?
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Post by knowall on Feb 26, 2018 16:06:38 GMT
Very interesting thread and interesting comments. As a supporter of the Al-Qadi family and their intentions for Rovers I admit to being biased. The UWE/Rovers reference as far as I am concerned is the word GREED. In any matter in life where there are two participants if one side is too greedy the relationship will fail. As we continually hear these days (and it is true) to be successful an arrangement has to work for both sides.
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