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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 20:48:00 GMT
I refuse to believe any new stadium rumours this time around. Like many others have said in the past, “I will believe it when I’m sat in.......” No wait what was it? Ah yeh! “I will believe it when I’m sat in the clubhouse and there are artists impressions of it above the bar”
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Feb 26, 2018 22:17:52 GMT
Yes, you misheard them, or heard what you wanted to hear. They promised to put the infrastructure in place (training facilities, stadium and squad support staff) and grow the club by evolution. I don't know what you thought you'd heard? I know what I did hear and that was we’d get our new stadium built , words from Waels mouth not mine. I think we'll get a good result on the stadium front. I'm not in the know, but it sounded like things were moving in the right direction from Wael's last interview. I personally trust the Al-qadis to look after our club, we could've done a hell of a lot worse after NH left.
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Post by sallycinnamon on Feb 26, 2018 22:20:57 GMT
I know what I did hear and that was we’d get our new stadium built , words from Waels mouth not mine. I think we'll get a good result on the stadium front. I'm not in the know, but it sounded like things were moving in the right direction from Wael's last interview. I personally trust the Al-qadis to look after our club, we could've done a hell of a lot worse after NH left. Time will tell I suppose, one things for sure county league clubs were better run than what we were under Higgs
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Feb 26, 2018 22:58:27 GMT
I think we'll get a good result on the stadium front. I'm not in the know, but it sounded like things were moving in the right direction from Wael's last interview. I personally trust the Al-qadis to look after our club, we could've done a hell of a lot worse after NH left. Time will tell I suppose, one things for sure county league clubs were better run than what we were under Higgs I couldn't agree more. NH made some shocking decisions, which could've meant the end of our club.
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Post by warehamgas on Feb 26, 2018 23:13:44 GMT
Time will tell I suppose, one things for sure county league clubs were better run than what we were under Higgs I couldn't agree more. NH made some shocking decisions, which could've meant the end of our club. Yes you are both probably right about some very bad decisions which could have cost us. I’m not itk so not party to lots of the stuff on here about him but one redeeming feature of NH is that in our year in non league he did keep his nerve, supported DC and we got out of jail. When I see what’s happened to Hartlepool, Leyton Orient and how it looks like it’s about to get worse for them and Tranmere in their third year in the National League I almost shiver at the thought of what might have happened. I know it was DC and the team more but NH did provide the finances for the players that helped get us out. UTG!
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Feb 26, 2018 23:37:30 GMT
I couldn't agree more. NH made some shocking decisions, which could've meant the end of our club. Yes you are both probably right about some very bad decisions which could have cost us. I’m not itk so not party to lots of the stuff on here about him but one redeeming feature of NH is that in our year in non league he did keep his nerve, supported DC and we got out of jail. When I see what’s happened to Hartlepool, Leyton Orient and how it looks like it’s about to get worse for them and Tranmere in their third year in the National League I almost shiver at the thought of what might have happened. I know it was DC and the team more but NH did provide the finances for the players that helped get us out. UTG! Thanks Nick.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Feb 26, 2018 23:44:51 GMT
Yes you are both probably right about some very bad decisions which could have cost us. I’m not itk so not party to lots of the stuff on here about him but one redeeming feature of NH is that in our year in non league he did keep his nerve, supported DC and we got out of jail. When I see what’s happened to Hartlepool, Leyton Orient and how it looks like it’s about to get worse for them and Tranmere in their third year in the National League I almost shiver at the thought of what might have happened. I know it was DC and the team more but NH did provide the finances for the players that helped get us out. UTG! Thanks Nick. He's right, though. Signing Easter (which didn't initially pay off) and Lines (big factor in the run in) didn't come cheap. Whether by luck or by judgement, history shows he made some good calls in that season, which was possibly the most vital one in our history.
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Post by philbemmygas on Feb 27, 2018 7:51:06 GMT
I couldn't agree more. NH made some shocking decisions, which could've meant the end of our club. Yes you are both probably right about some very bad decisions which could have cost us. I’m not itk so not party to lots of the stuff on here about him but one redeeming feature of NH is that in our year in non league he did keep his nerve, supported DC and we got out of jail. When I see what’s happened to Hartlepool, Leyton Orient and how it looks like it’s about to get worse for them and Tranmere in their third year in the National League I almost shiver at the thought of what might have happened. I know it was DC and the team more but NH did provide the finances for the players that helped get us out. UTG! Cheltenham did exactly the same the following season (?) kept a high budget in a sh*t or bust attempt to gain promotion. As we all know it worked for them as well; as for the florist green business model - less said the better imo. UTG
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Feb 27, 2018 8:04:31 GMT
He's right, though. Signing Easter (which didn't initially pay off) and Lines (big factor in the run in) didn't come cheap. Whether by luck or by judgement, history shows he made some good calls in that season, which was possibly the most vital one in our history. I agree with you, and would give him full credit for that. However, he got us in that mess in the first place with some poor managerial appointments and signings. He also almost bankrupt the club with his obsession with the Sainsbury's court case.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 27, 2018 8:32:07 GMT
He's right, though. Signing Easter (which didn't initially pay off) and Lines (big factor in the run in) didn't come cheap. Whether by luck or by judgement, history shows he made some good calls in that season, which was possibly the most vital one in our history. I agree with you, and would give him full credit for that. However, he got us in that mess in the first place with some poor managerial appointments and signings. He also almost bankrupt the club with his obsession with the Sainsbury's court case. But he did say that was a means to an end as w/o the Sainsbury's case the UWE stadium would have died and most likely the ALQ's would have never even shown any interest in buying the club.
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Post by warehamgas on Feb 27, 2018 9:41:41 GMT
Yes you are both probably right about some very bad decisions which could have cost us. I’m not itk so not party to lots of the stuff on here about him but one redeeming feature of NH is that in our year in non league he did keep his nerve, supported DC and we got out of jail. When I see what’s happened to Hartlepool, Leyton Orient and how it looks like it’s about to get worse for them and Tranmere in their third year in the National League I almost shiver at the thought of what might have happened. I know it was DC and the team more but NH did provide the finances for the players that helped get us out. UTG! Cheltenham did exactly the same the following season (?) kept a high budget in a sh*t or bust attempt to gain promotion. As we all know it worked for them as well; as for the florist green business model - less said the better imo. UTG Probably best to do that because there’s a lot more than I know. My point was that in our year in non league he kept his nerve and provided the cash to buy players, as 2nd May said. Had he not who knows where we’d be. I’m not a supporter of his but I shiver at the thought of what might have happened! UTG!
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Feb 27, 2018 12:04:45 GMT
He's right, though. Signing Easter (which didn't initially pay off) and Lines (big factor in the run in) didn't come cheap. Whether by luck or by judgement, history shows he made some good calls in that season, which was possibly the most vital one in our history. I agree with you, and would give him full credit for that. However, he got us in that mess in the first place with some poor managerial appointments and signings. He also almost bankrupt the club with his obsession with the Sainsbury's court case. Oh, believe me. I am no Higgs apologist! He did an awful lot of harm to the club, but thank god there was a little good to come out amongst the bad! Ward appointing Clarke as his assistant is another example of this.
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Feb 27, 2018 12:32:20 GMT
I agree with you, and would give him full credit for that. However, he got us in that mess in the first place with some poor managerial appointments and signings. He also almost bankrupt the club with his obsession with the Sainsbury's court case. Oh, believe me. I am no Higgs apologist! He did an awful lot of harm to the club, but thank god there was a little good to come out amongst the bad! Ward appointing Clarke as his assistant is another example of this. As they say, if you chuck enough s*it at the fan, some of it is bound to stick!
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Post by LJG on Feb 27, 2018 12:37:35 GMT
I agree with you, and would give him full credit for that. However, he got us in that mess in the first place with some poor managerial appointments and signings. He also almost bankrupt the club with his obsession with the Sainsbury's court case. But he did say that was a means to an end as w/o the Sainsbury's case the UWE stadium would have died and most likely the ALQ's would have never even shown any interest in buying the club. The Al Qadis purchased before the conclusion of the Sainsbury's case and were largely uninterested (publicly) in the result.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 27, 2018 13:21:28 GMT
But he did say that was a means to an end as w/o the Sainsbury's case the UWE stadium would have died and most likely the ALQ's would have never even shown any interest in buying the club. The Al Qadis purchased before the conclusion of the Sainsbury's case and were largely uninterested (publicly) in the result. What di they think privately? However the point was if the Sainsbury's case was never pursued then most likely the UWE stadium would have been dead long before Wael had even heard of Bristol Rover, if it had been would he really have been interested in buying a near bankrupt club with no stadium plans. I guess the NH haters will say it made no difference.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 27, 2018 13:23:15 GMT
The Al Qadis purchased before the conclusion of the Sainsbury's case and were largely uninterested (publicly) in the result. What di they think privately? They pulled out of the appeal, so in actual deed they showed no interest in the result.
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Post by LJG on Feb 27, 2018 13:52:27 GMT
The Al Qadis purchased before the conclusion of the Sainsbury's case and were largely uninterested (publicly) in the result. What di they think privately? However the point was if the Sainsbury's case was never pursued then most likely the UWE stadium would have been dead long before Wael had even heard of Bristol Rover, if it had been would he really have been interested in buying a near bankrupt club with no stadium plans. I guess the NH haters will say it made no difference. It evidently made no difference since they didn't pursue it.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 27, 2018 16:37:38 GMT
The Al Qadis purchased before the conclusion of the Sainsbury's case and were largely uninterested (publicly) in the result. What di they think privately? However the point was if the Sainsbury's case was never pursued then most likely the UWE stadium would have been dead long before Wael had even heard of Bristol Rover, if it had been would he really have been interested in buying a near bankrupt club with no stadium plans. I guess the NH haters will say it made no difference. Home and away attendances and the massive following at Wembley were much bigger factors in making us a viable purchase than a rented stadium from a poorly negotiated deal.
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Post by lpgas on Feb 27, 2018 17:49:51 GMT
Just goes to show how Unis have become big business as the expense of the public and students. To me they should be places of learning, nothing else
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 27, 2018 17:57:54 GMT
What di they think privately? However the point was if the Sainsbury's case was never pursued then most likely the UWE stadium would have been dead long before Wael had even heard of Bristol Rover, if it had been would he really have been interested in buying a near bankrupt club with no stadium plans. I guess the NH haters will say it made no difference. Home and away attendances and the massive following at Wembley were much bigger factors in making us a viable purchase than a rented stadium from a poorly negotiated deal. Attendances in Div 2 when the ALQ's started talks were only around 6,000 I doubt that was the big attraction and given Wael's interview post the takeover it's pretty clear what was one of the biggest attraction: Football fans and local entities have been “very welcoming” to Al Qadi, and he is hoping to repay them by finally completing a long-mooted stadium relocation. “They want a new stadium, they need a new stadium,” he said. “The previous owners did a lot of good work in getting the planning permission and agreements in place for the stadium to go ahead.” Legal issue have hindered the move for a decade as the club continues to play at the Memorial Stadium. “We kind of inherited that,” he said. “So we have to wait until this is resolved and we have to study everything to make sure everything is aligned and in place before going ahead with the stadium because we don’t want any road bumps" Although that only has to be good news as if Wael still feels the same way hopefully he's still pressing ahead with getting the stadium situation resolved.
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