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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2018 19:35:14 GMT
This season 3 teams have let more in. Last season 4 teams conceded more.
Pretty damning statistics and not one defender during our 2 seasons back in league one has been consistently good. Obviously the whole team defends when our opponents have the ball but our defenders have lost their one on one battles far too often imo.
I dont think tony craig has been here long enough to judge him and tom broadbent is in his 1st season so although i include them both in the defensive mess they have mitigating excuses imo.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2018 19:57:55 GMT
Broadbent has been consistently good. Cannot understand why he was dropped.
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Mar 17, 2018 19:59:54 GMT
This season 3 teams have let more in. Last season 4 teams conceded more. Pretty damning statistics and not one defender during our 2 seasons back in league one has been consistently good. Obviously the whole team defends when our opponents have the ball but our defenders have lost their one on one battles far too often imo. I dont think tony craig has been here long enough to judge him and tom broadbent is in his 1st season so although i include them both in the defensive mess they have mitigating excuses imo. Luckily we score goals too.
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Mar 17, 2018 20:08:27 GMT
This season 3 teams have let more in. Last season 4 teams conceded more. Pretty damning statistics and not one defender during our 2 seasons back in league one has been consistently good. Obviously the whole team defends when our opponents have the ball but our defenders have lost their one on one battles far too often imo. I dont think tony craig has been here long enough to judge him and tom broadbent is in his 1st season so although i include them both in the defensive mess they have mitigating excuses imo. I noticed you didn't post this after our previous 3 games.......? We lose and we're dooooooooomed!!! No doubt if we score less and so concede less, you'd be moaning about the lack of goals.
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Post by peterparker on Mar 17, 2018 20:10:49 GMT
This season 3 teams have let more in. Last season 4 teams conceded more. Pretty damning statistics and not one defender during our 2 seasons back in league one has been consistently good. Obviously the whole team defends when our opponents have the ball but our defenders have lost their one on one battles far too often imo. I dont think tony craig has been here long enough to judge him and tom broadbent is in his 1st season so although i include them both in the defensive mess they have mitigating excuses imo. Luckily we score goals too. Goals for dont count obviously
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Post by Somersetgas on Mar 17, 2018 20:17:47 GMT
This season 3 teams have let more in. Last season 4 teams conceded more. Pretty damning statistics and not one defender during our 2 seasons back in league one has been consistently good. Obviously the whole team defends when our opponents have the ball but our defenders have lost their one on one battles far too often imo. I dont think tony craig has been here long enough to judge him and tom broadbent is in his 1st season so although i include them both in the defensive mess they have mitigating excuses imo. Cheer up it might never happen....... we are mid table, with our crowds and spend that is where we should be at best,Stop chucking the dummy out!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2018 22:29:26 GMT
This season 3 teams have let more in. Last season 4 teams conceded more. Pretty damning statistics and not one defender during our 2 seasons back in league one has been consistently good. Obviously the whole team defends when our opponents have the ball but our defenders have lost their one on one battles far too often imo. I dont think tony craig has been here long enough to judge him and tom broadbent is in his 1st season so although i include them both in the defensive mess they have mitigating excuses imo. Cheer up it might never happen....... we are mid table, with our crowds and spend that is where we should be at best,Stop chucking the dummy out! We score goals but we let in loads and its blindingly obvious our defenders are not good enough at defending. Its not about spitting a dummy out,more about hoping the manager sees the obvious weakness in our team over an 83 game period in this division.
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Post by socrates on Mar 18, 2018 1:18:04 GMT
This season 3 teams have let more in. Last season 4 teams conceded more. Pretty damning statistics and not one defender during our 2 seasons back in league one has been consistently good. Obviously the whole team defends when our opponents have the ball but our defenders have lost their one on one battles far too often imo. I dont think tony craig has been here long enough to judge him and tom broadbent is in his 1st season so although i include them both in the defensive mess they have mitigating excuses imo. I noticed you didn't post this after our previous 3 games.......? We lose and we're dooooooooomed!!! No doubt if we score less and so concede less, you'd be moaning about the lack of goals. He’s only pointed out that we concede a lot of goals. the statistics don’t lie. We’ve scored a lot too , even having lost Bodin, Taylor next time we lose a scorer we might not be so lucky in terms of still scoring. I think our defence needs to be better if we!te going to finish top six next season. Perhaps the players are good enough but the defensive coaching isn’t , maybe Craig can finish his badges and improve what we’ve got I don’t know but our defence is way off where it needs to be if we’re to become a top six team. Have a go at me too if you like just telling it like it is. UTG
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Post by countygroundhotel on Mar 18, 2018 7:02:19 GMT
Eastville for Entertainment, Memorial for Mountain of Goals. Value for money watching Rovers
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Post by gashead1981 on Mar 18, 2018 8:06:11 GMT
I get B.Bs point though. This season we have scored 53 goals, Shrewsbury who are second and Plymouth who are 6th have scored 49 and 47 respectively, Plymouth are the only team in the top 6 who have a negative GD. Scunny who are 5th have scored 55.
Clearly we have no problems scoring but if only we could tighten up our defence a little then we would see a massive leap up the league. For example if we convert some of our 17 losses so far to 10 losses turning them to draws giving us 12 draws instead of 5 we have achieved so far we would currently be sitting 6th.
Looking at some of the soft goals that we have conceded this year that has cost us points I would say that is an achievable thing for DC to put right but also shows how well DC is doing with this group of players.
I still don’t think Craig is the right CB for us though!
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Mar 18, 2018 8:53:42 GMT
I enjoy watching the Gas more than any period I can remember, because we play attacking free scoring football. When we need a goal, we invariably get one. Can anyone remember another Rovers team who could do that?
You can't have that without letting in goals. Don't blame the defense, they're just doing what the manager tells them to do, which is bomb forward and support the attacking players.
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Post by markczgas on Mar 18, 2018 9:37:57 GMT
I enjoy watching the Gas more than any period I can remember, because we play attacking free scoring football. When we need a goal, we invariably get one. Can anyone remember another Rovers team who could do that?
You can't have that without letting in goals. Don't blame the defense, they're just doing what the manager tells them to do, which is bomb forward and support the attacking players. Ian Holloway's team. We don't have very solid fullbacks , have picked the wrong keeper for most of the season. And now DC plays to shortish CBs when he had Broadbent playing better than better. So you can say we haven't got the players but the manager should also take some blame. Going forwards we are a very attractive team to watch but DC needs to recruit better at the back and stick with his "best players ".
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Post by Windmill Hill Gas on Mar 18, 2018 9:42:01 GMT
To be fair we had a few capitulations in the first half of the season which is why our goals against column looks so bad. That has been stopped in 2018. I'd like to see our GD since new years
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Post by wilkimania on Mar 18, 2018 9:42:44 GMT
The one I can't explain is why when we're playing two short centre backs do we sit back on the wings and invite crosses into the box. I'd love to know how many of our goals have come from wide men being allowed to whip the ball in because the left/right back sat off the man and let them put the ball into the box.
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Post by rusho'gas on Mar 18, 2018 9:54:16 GMT
Good going forward, dodgy at the back (sometimes). Never a dull moment following the gas (well sometimes). Sooner have it this way than going 1 up and clamming up at the back a la Arsenal. We can't defend that's why we are a lower division team, along with numerous others.
We are improving year on year.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 18, 2018 9:55:47 GMT
Cheer up it might never happen....... we are mid table, with our crowds and spend that is where we should be at best,Stop chucking the dummy out! We score goals but we let in loads and its blindingly obvious our defenders are not good enough at defending. Its not about spitting a dummy out,more about hoping the manager sees the obvious weakness in our team over an 83 game period in this division. Surely the fact he brought Craig in suggests he did see the problem? Although why he brought in a 6 foot CB rather than a lump of a CH is a mystery, you can only assume it's the best he could get for the money the owners gave him to spend in January.
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Post by peterparker on Mar 18, 2018 11:37:01 GMT
We score goals but we let in loads and its blindingly obvious our defenders are not good enough at defending. Its not about spitting a dummy out,more about hoping the manager sees the obvious weakness in our team over an 83 game period in this division. Surely the fact he brought Craig in suggests he did see the problem? Although why he brought in a 6 foot CB rather than a lump of a CH is a mystery, you can only assume it's the best he could get for the money the owners gave him to spend in January. Because he got a bloke with 400 odd games and 3 or 4 promtions on his CV thats why. One that is potentially also being seen as a coach voing forward
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Post by stevek192 on Mar 18, 2018 11:39:07 GMT
Are our players really suited to constant changes in personnel and formations? How many goals conceded have actually been caused by inviting pressure and overcrowding the penalty area rather than stopping the crosses coming in. I often wonder what we actually do on the training field because we get so many basics wrong.
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Post by spiess1 on Mar 18, 2018 11:43:06 GMT
You're right Stevek. No other teams let crosses in or concede goals.
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Post by stevek192 on Mar 18, 2018 13:09:04 GMT
Not in the numbers we do Spiess1. The figures are shocking.
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