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Post by midlandgas213 on May 30, 2018 7:44:21 GMT
Oh sh** not another 4 years of him in charge Yeah, that would be terrible if we had another four years like the last four. I get that you don't warm to him. I don't share your opinion, but I understand it. What I can't understand though is the implied criticism of his record. It's a fact that he's gained two promotions. If that's not good enough, then is it not possible that you may be setting the bar a little bit high... His record of promotions is great no problem with that but my gripe is that he only has experience of lower league football and for us to move forward we need a more experienced manager. the inconsistency last season showed it just look at November and December and probably the last 8 or so games it all fell apart. I did did not think that I set the bar too high last season my bar was set at a top 10 finish and a positive goal difference something we should have been able to achieve , I did not ask for top 2 or even top 6 , under DC we are not ready for that
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Post by alvestongas on May 30, 2018 8:25:04 GMT
Yeah, that would be terrible if we had another four years like the last four. I get that you don't warm to him. I don't share your opinion, but I understand it. What I can't understand though is the implied criticism of his record. It's a fact that he's gained two promotions. If that's not good enough, then is it not possible that you may be setting the bar a little bit high... His record of promotions is great no problem with that but my gripe is that he only has experience of lower league football and for us to move forward we need a more experienced manager. the inconsistency last season showed it just look at November and December and probably the last 8 or so games it all fell apart. I did did not think that I set the bar too high last season my bar was set at a top 10 finish and a positive goal difference something we should have been able to achieve , I did not ask for top 2 or even top 6 , under DC we are not ready for that Pretty difficult to please then, personally I would rather have DC than almost anyone else realistically within reach of our club. Keep on doing what you do Darrell. UTG
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Post by pirate49 on May 30, 2018 8:29:53 GMT
I think that DC needs to have success with another lower division club before a Championship side takes a punt on him. For all that Ward takes some criticism he eased DC into Bristol Rovers and since then his success has been with us. Paul Hirst has done well with Shrewsbury and Grimsby.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on May 30, 2018 9:01:45 GMT
www.bbc.com/sport/football/44272857Paul Hurst confirmed as Ipswich manager. This seemed likely since seeing Hurst's interview post match on the weekend. It sounded like it was almost sewn up before the game. DC's mate Cook already in championship with Wigan and now Hurst. I do worry that if DC sees them going onto much greater things whilst we relatively stagnate that he might have enough and take the plunge, given the opportunity to do so.
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Post by oldgas on May 30, 2018 9:03:26 GMT
Yeah, that would be terrible if we had another four years like the last four. I get that you don't warm to him. I don't share your opinion, but I understand it. What I can't understand though is the implied criticism of his record. It's a fact that he's gained two promotions. If that's not good enough, then is it not possible that you may be setting the bar a little bit high... His record of promotions is great no problem with that but my gripe is that he only has experience of lower league football and for us to move forward we need a more experienced manager. the inconsistency last season showed it just look at November and December and probably the last 8 or so games it all fell apart. I did did not think that I set the bar too high last season my bar was set at a top 10 finish and a positive goal difference something we should have been able to achieve , I did not ask for top 2 or even top 6 , under DC we are not ready for that The consensus is that we a 2 or 3 players short of a play-off or promotion push. With that in mind, which manager that we could realistically employ would have managed us to a better finish than 13th? I think we have suffered the usual 2nd season syndrome, and as such it wasn't too traumatic and was managed very well by DC. Provided we don't lose any key players this window, and DC is allowed to bring in the 2 or 3 players needed, next season should be a belter. I will watch with interest how Plymouth, Portsmouth and the other 2nd season promotion teams fair this season. And as for Shrewsbury, I fear they may bomb. What at do others think?
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Post by Marshy on May 30, 2018 9:09:35 GMT
His record of promotions is great no problem with that but my gripe is that he only has experience of lower league football and for us to move forward we need a more experienced manager. the inconsistency last season showed it just look at November and December and probably the last 8 or so games it all fell apart. I did did not think that I set the bar too high last season my bar was set at a top 10 finish and a positive goal difference something we should have been able to achieve , I did not ask for top 2 or even top 6 , under DC we are not ready for that The consensus is that we a 2 or 3 players short of a play-off or promotion push. With that in mind, which manager that we could realistically employ would have managed us to a better finish than 13th? I think we have suffered the usual 2nd season syndrome, and as such it wasn't too traumatic and was managed very well by DC. Provided we don't lose any key players this window, and DC is allowed to bring in the 2 or 3 players needed, next season should be a belter. I will watch with interest how Plymouth, Portsmouth and the other 2nd season promotion teams fair this season. And as for Shrewsbury, I fear they may bomb. What at do others think? I think that we will be 10 points clear at the top of the league at Christmas and then fail to make the playoffs. Everyone will be gutted apart from Midlandgas.
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Post by midlandgas213 on May 30, 2018 9:15:50 GMT
I will be gutted as well I want success for the club as much as everyone else but imho I don't think DC is the right person to carry us forward time will tell but how much time to we have
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Post by poorblue on May 30, 2018 9:20:37 GMT
His record of promotions is great no problem with that but my gripe is that he only has experience of lower league football and for us to move forward we need a more experienced manager. the inconsistency last season showed it just look at November and December and probably the last 8 or so games it all fell apart. I did did not think that I set the bar too high last season my bar was set at a top 10 finish and a positive goal difference something we should have been able to achieve , I did not ask for top 2 or even top 6 , under DC we are not ready for that The consensus is that we a 2 or 3 players short of a play-off or promotion push. With that in mind, which manager that we could realistically employ would have managed us to a better finish than 13th? I think we have suffered the usual 2nd season syndrome, and as such it wasn't too traumatic and was managed very well by DC. Provided we don't lose any key players this window, and DC is allowed to bring in the 2 or 3 players needed, next season should be a belter. I will watch with interest how Plymouth, Portsmouth and the other 2nd season promotion teams fair this season. And as for Shrewsbury, I fear they may bomb. What at do others think? The good news is that we have signed a good midfielder. The bad news is still to come and the reason we have not signed other players just yet. DC stated that apart from the players he released that some other players under contract would likely leave. i.e. either pushed or poached. But who? Sercombe, Harrison or Lines poached or Gaffney and Nichols pushed. I think DC is waiting to sort out these issues before any new signings. Beginning to panic now??? only 6 weeks window left to sort it out.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on May 30, 2018 9:26:02 GMT
The consensus is that we a 2 or 3 players short of a play-off or promotion push. With that in mind, which manager that we could realistically employ would have managed us to a better finish than 13th? I think we have suffered the usual 2nd season syndrome, and as such it wasn't too traumatic and was managed very well by DC. Provided we don't lose any key players this window, and DC is allowed to bring in the 2 or 3 players needed, next season should be a belter. I will watch with interest how Plymouth, Portsmouth and the other 2nd season promotion teams fair this season. And as for Shrewsbury, I fear they may bomb. What at do others think? The good news is that we have signed a good midfielder. The bad news is still to come and the reason we have not signed other players just yet. DC stated that apart from the players he released that some other players under contract would likely leave. i.e. either pushed or poached. But who? Sercombe, Harrison or Lines poached or Gaffney and Nichols pushed. I think DC is waiting to sort out these issues before any new signings. Beginning to panic now??? only 6 weeks window left to sort it out. Maths not your strong point, is it?
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2018 9:58:10 GMT
We should expect significant progress every single season. DC led us to consecutive promotions and then consolidated with back to back mid table positions in league one for two years. This "stagnation" is not good enough. We should be in the prem by now and looking to dominate Europe in the next two seasons before eventually overtaking Real Madrid as the continents most decorated side. DC clearly isn't the man to do this. We shouldn't settle for second best and should be more ambitious with our future choice of Manager. We should go for Ancelotti as Director of Football and Allegri as Manager with a young up and coming coach alongside him so we have succession planning to enable our worldwide domination to continue.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2018 10:02:42 GMT
www.bbc.com/sport/football/44272857Paul Hurst confirmed as Ipswich manager. This seemed likely since seeing Hurst's interview post match on the weekend. It sounded like it was almost sewn up before the game. DC's mate Cook already in championship with Wigan and now Hurst. I do worry that if DC sees them going onto much greater things whilst we relatively stagnate that he might have enough and take the plunge, given the opportunity to do so. Or.... he could go to Shrewsbury. Even they are light years ahead of us.
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Post by Gas_Quarters on May 30, 2018 10:15:34 GMT
The consensus is that we a 2 or 3 players short of a play-off or promotion push. With that in mind, which manager that we could realistically employ would have managed us to a better finish than 13th? I think we have suffered the usual 2nd season syndrome, and as such it wasn't too traumatic and was managed very well by DC. Provided we don't lose any key players this window, and DC is allowed to bring in the 2 or 3 players needed, next season should be a belter. I will watch with interest how Plymouth, Portsmouth and the other 2nd season promotion teams fair this season. And as for Shrewsbury, I fear they may bomb. What at do others think? I think that we will be 10 points clear at the top of the league at Christmas and then fail to make the playoffs. Everyone will be gutted apart from Midlandgas. Imagine looking set for promotion at Christmas and then not making the playoffs...👀💩
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Post by socrates on May 30, 2018 10:17:37 GMT
I will be gutted as well I want success for the club as much as everyone else but imho I don't think DC is the right person to carry us forward time will tell but how much time to we have How much time do we have for what ?
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Post by Slide away on May 30, 2018 10:29:28 GMT
I think the fact that DC has 4 years of his contract left would have left us in a strong position regarding compensation etc... Oh sh** not another 4 years of him in charge Hopefully! Really don't understand your agenda against the guy that dragged us back from the brink of extinction and has now established us back where we have ultimately always existed- maybe it's the want for attention?
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2018 10:57:23 GMT
Lol you lot love biting.
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Post by Marshy on May 30, 2018 11:12:05 GMT
Scott, Bolders is home early. Now the biting makes sense!
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Post by Topper Gas on May 30, 2018 11:51:21 GMT
I will be gutted as well I want success for the club as much as everyone else but imho I don't think DC is the right person to carry us forward time will tell but how much time to we have How much time do we have for what ? Given we've been plodding along since 1883 I sense we've plenty of time left? Although realistically I sense this might be crunch time for DC, as if we don't make any progress this season, league position wise, you do wonder whether DC will still be here this time next summer.
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Post by curlywurly on May 30, 2018 11:53:54 GMT
I will be gutted as well I want success for the club as much as everyone else but imho I don't think DC is the right person to carry us forward time will tell but how much time to we have Genuine question; who is the right person to carry us forward?
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Post by midlandgas213 on May 30, 2018 11:59:14 GMT
I will be gutted as well I want success for the club as much as everyone else but imho I don't think DC is the right person to carry us forward time will tell but how much time to we have How much time do we have for what ? With all the big money about for getting promotion and the development of the a quad by bringing in players of higher caliber we are being left behind sky money is not going to last forever I give them another 5 seasons and then the pot will run dry if we have not made it by then there will be those who have and will continue to grow and those who will be left behind with little or no money coming in.
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Post by midlandgas213 on May 30, 2018 12:02:25 GMT
I will be gutted as well I want success for the club as much as everyone else but imho I don't think DC is the right person to carry us forward time will tell but how much time to we have Genuine question; who is the right person to carry us forward? I don't know but we need someone with championship experience and contacts, there are a number of managers around at the moment looking for a new club and we ought to be in a position to attract one and therefore better players it was some time ago but we have attracted some of the best players around Alan Ball , Mick Channon and look were we were then we had no magical money or super stadium
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