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Post by alvestongas on May 30, 2018 12:08:13 GMT
The consensus is that we a 2 or 3 players short of a play-off or promotion push. With that in mind, which manager that we could realistically employ would have managed us to a better finish than 13th? I think we have suffered the usual 2nd season syndrome, and as such it wasn't too traumatic and was managed very well by DC. Provided we don't lose any key players this window, and DC is allowed to bring in the 2 or 3 players needed, next season should be a belter. I will watch with interest how Plymouth, Portsmouth and the other 2nd season promotion teams fair this season. And as for Shrewsbury, I fear they may bomb. What at do others think? The good news is that we have signed a good midfielder. The bad news is still to come and the reason we have not signed other players just yet. DC stated that apart from the players he released that some other players under contract would likely leave. i.e. either pushed or poached. But who? Sercombe, Harrison or Lines poached or Gaffney and Nichols pushed. I think DC is waiting to sort out these issues before any new signings. Beginning to panic now??? only 6 weeks window left to sort it out. Wild guesswork!
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Post by Charlton Hayes Gas on May 30, 2018 12:10:20 GMT
I will be gutted as well I want success for the club as much as everyone else but imho I don't think DC is the right person to carry us forward time will tell but how much time to we have This has got to be a parody account surely? haha
We're pretty much where we were 8 years ago under Trollope. Thought we deserved bigger and better, said he wasn't the right man to carry us forward few seasons after promotion. Then we upgraded to Dave Penny.....who was then replaced with the gold package of Paul Buckle (the glory years) who we then upgraded again for the deluxe packages of Mcghee and Ward.
What decent or in-form manager in their right mind would wanna join our shambles? I've seen our boys training at the Bawa club before, THE BAWA CLUB!
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2018 12:24:27 GMT
Genuine question; who is the right person to carry us forward? I don't know but we need someone with championship experience and contacts, there are a number of managers around at the moment looking for a new club and we ought to be in a position to attract one and therefore better players it was some time ago but we have attracted some of the best players around Alan Ball , Mick Channon and look were we were then we had no magical money or super stadium Surely you can name some of the "number of managers around at the moment looking for a new club"?
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Post by Marshy on May 30, 2018 12:26:45 GMT
I don't know but we need someone with championship experience and contacts, there are a number of managers around at the moment looking for a new club and we ought to be in a position to attract one and therefore better players it was some time ago but we have attracted some of the best players around Alan Ball , Mick Channon and look were we were then we had no magical money or super stadium Surely you can name some of the "number of managers around at the moment looking for a new club"? Mark McGhee? 😂
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Post by CornishPasty_Gas on May 30, 2018 12:36:43 GMT
His record of promotions is great no problem with that but my gripe is that he only has experience of lower league football and for us to move forward we need a more experienced manager. the inconsistency last season showed it just look at November and December and probably the last 8 or so games it all fell apart. I did did not think that I set the bar too high last season my bar was set at a top 10 finish and a positive goal difference something we should have been able to achieve , I did not ask for top 2 or even top 6 , under DC we are not ready for that The consensus is that we a 2 or 3 players short of a play-off or promotion push. With that in mind, which manager that we could realistically employ would have managed us to a better finish than 13th? I think we have suffered the usual 2nd season syndrome, and as such it wasn't too traumatic and was managed very well by DC. Provided we don't lose any key players this window, and DC is allowed to bring in the 2 or 3 players needed, next season should be a belter. I will watch with interest how Plymouth, Portsmouth and the other 2nd season promotion teams fair this season. And as for Shrewsbury, I fear they may bomb. What at do others think?I think we are more further away from Play Offs than 2 or 3 players. If you go through our team, you have to think that too. Goalkeepers - Okay, but good enough for play offs? Right backs - Leadbitter is exciting but cant defend, Partington, visa versa. Dont think he has the speed to get forward effectively enough. Centre backs, think we are OK here, with decent back up in TB and RM. Left back, well, we dont have any... Midfielders - Ollie Clarke, Linesy, I dont think are good enough for L1 Play offs. Upson I dont know about, Sercombe is up to it, definitely. Still think we need another quality midfielder. Wingers, Bennett is good enough, but we do need another winger. Then we have the strikers... I am not convinced any of them are good enough to be honest. EH had a great middle of the season, but tailed off towards the end... Not sure I can count on him to get us in top 6. Gaffers are Nicholls don't have enough... So i think going on that, we are looking at around 4-6 players. All about opinions though
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Post by pirate on May 30, 2018 12:38:41 GMT
I think 4-6 players too.
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Post by Okebournegas on May 30, 2018 12:49:55 GMT
I don't know but we need someone with championship experience and contacts, there are a number of managers around at the moment looking for a new club and we ought to be in a position to attract one and therefore better players it was some time ago but we have attracted some of the best players around Alan Ball , Mick Channon and look were we were then we had no magical money or super stadium Surely you can name some of the "number of managers around at the moment looking for a new club"? I'm glad I read this as I was going to ask the same thing.
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 30, 2018 13:01:39 GMT
I will be gutted as well I want success for the club as much as everyone else but imho I don't think DC is the right person to carry us forward time will tell but how much time to we have This has got to be a parody account surely? haha
We're pretty much where we were 8 years ago under Trollope. Thought we deserved bigger and better, said he wasn't the right man to carry us forward few seasons after promotion. Then we upgraded to Dave Penny.....who was then replaced with the gold package of Paul Buckle (the glory years) who we then upgraded again for the deluxe packages of Mcghee and Ward.
What decent or in-form manager in their right mind would wanna join our shambles? I've seen our boys training at the Bawa club before, THE BAWA CLUB!
To be fair when Trollope went in Dec 2010 we were already heading towards probable relegation in a season which had already saw us let in 6 twice. The name Carl Regan still send shudders down my spine...
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Post by Topper Gas on May 30, 2018 13:17:08 GMT
The consensus is that we a 2 or 3 players short of a play-off or promotion push. With that in mind, which manager that we could realistically employ would have managed us to a better finish than 13th? I think we have suffered the usual 2nd season syndrome, and as such it wasn't too traumatic and was managed very well by DC. Provided we don't lose any key players this window, and DC is allowed to bring in the 2 or 3 players needed, next season should be a belter. I will watch with interest how Plymouth, Portsmouth and the other 2nd season promotion teams fair this season. And as for Shrewsbury, I fear they may bomb. What at do others think?I think we are more further away from Play Offs than 2 or 3 players. If you go through our team, you have to think that too. Goalkeepers - Okay, but good enough for play offs? Right backs - Leadbitter is exciting but cant defend, Partington, visa versa. Dont think he has the speed to get forward effectively enough. Centre backs, think we are OK here, with decent back up in TB and RM. Left back, well, we dont have any... Midfielders - Ollie Clarke, Linesy, I dont think are good enough for L1 Play offs. Upson I dont know about, Sercombe is up to it, definitely. Still think we need another quality midfielder. Wingers, Bennett is good enough, but we do need another winger. Then we have the strikers... I am not convinced any of them are good enough to be honest. EH had a great middle of the season, but tailed off towards the end... Not sure I can count on him to get us in top 6. Gaffers are Nicholls don't have enough... So i think going on that, we are looking at around 4-6 players. All about opinions though Clearly we have to sign LB and you can only assume DC's looking for an improvement on Brown otherwise he would have offered him a new contract regardless as to whether he wanted to move south or not, unless he sees Craig in that role? Leads & Parts will do at RB as long as they are both fully fit plus Upson seems a good signing on paper. So we need a decent RW to replace Moore, plus another winger as cover for both wings. Upfront we need a goal scorer then either Gaffers or Nichols as back up or better if either or both can be moved on. So 3 more 1st team starters, LB, RW, No 10, plus a few additions to the squad generally, LB or Kelly?, RW/LW & striker could be good enough unless the likes of Pompey go on a spending spree.
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Post by poorblue on May 30, 2018 13:21:17 GMT
The good news is that we have signed a good midfielder. The bad news is still to come and the reason we have not signed other players just yet. DC stated that apart from the players he released that some other players under contract would likely leave. i.e. either pushed or poached. But who? Sercombe, Harrison or Lines poached or Gaffney and Nichols pushed. I think DC is waiting to sort out these issues before any new signings. Beginning to panic now??? only 5 weeks window left to sort it out. Wild guesswork! Wild statement without reading what is written. Actual DC quote not guesswork. The players named were quoted by me as a question based on the quote.
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Post by Marshy on May 30, 2018 13:22:47 GMT
This has got to be a parody account surely? haha
We're pretty much where we were 8 years ago under Trollope. Thought we deserved bigger and better, said he wasn't the right man to carry us forward few seasons after promotion. Then we upgraded to Dave Penny.....who was then replaced with the gold package of Paul Buckle (the glory years) who we then upgraded again for the deluxe packages of Mcghee and Ward.
What decent or in-form manager in their right mind would wanna join our shambles? I've seen our boys training at the Bawa club before, THE BAWA CLUB!
To be fair when Trollope went in Dec 2010 we were already heading towards probable relegation in a season which had already saw us let in 6 twice. The name Carl Regan still send shudders down my spine...
I feel your pain brother, i’m the same with George Carter.
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Post by midlandgas213 on May 30, 2018 15:41:05 GMT
I don't know but we need someone with championship experience and contacts, there are a number of managers around at the moment looking for a new club and we ought to be in a position to attract one and therefore better players it was some time ago but we have attracted some of the best players around Alan Ball , Mick Channon and look were we were then we had no magical money or super stadium Surely you can name some of the "number of managers around at the moment looking for a new club"? I would welcome Olly with open arms but someone at the club has upset him so how about Chris Coleman
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Post by peterparker on May 30, 2018 16:09:45 GMT
Surely you can name some of the "number of managers around at the moment looking for a new club"? I would welcome Olly with open arms but someone at the club has upset him so how about Chris Coleman Despite Chris Coleman being woeful at Sunderland, I would expect his stock is still relatively higher than BRFC at this moment in time
maybe you fancy Steve Cotterill?
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Post by BrightonGas on May 30, 2018 16:10:09 GMT
Hey mods, a question about ProBoards. We have like and dislike buttons, is it possible to have one that says "Attention Seeker?"
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2018 17:10:28 GMT
Yeah, that would be terrible if we had another four years like the last four. I get that you don't warm to him. I don't share your opinion, but I understand it. What I can't understand though is the implied criticism of his record. It's a fact that he's gained two promotions. If that's not good enough, then is it not possible that you may be setting the bar a little bit high... His record of promotions is great no problem with that but my gripe is that he only has experience of lower league football and for us to move forward we need a more experienced manager. the inconsistency last season showed it just look at November and December and probably the last 8 or so games it all fell apart. I did did not think that I set the bar too high last season my bar was set at a top 10 finish and a positive goal difference something we should have been able to achieve , I did not ask for top 2 or even top 6 , under DC we are not ready for that Forget our allegiance to Rovers for a moment and consider say, Tranmere, who have just been promoted from the National League. A club similar to where we were back then in some ways, traditional 3rd tier club who had fallen upon hard times and are turning the corner... Would you expect them to gain another promotion next season and then secure two top ten finishes? It's not impossible, but it's a big ask. There's inevitably a levelling out following such quick progress, and it's not as if we ever really flirted with relegation last season. I would think that after selling our best player in each of the last two seasons, finishing 10th and 13th represents pretty solid performances. I'd happily take more of the same next season. And as for the wheels falling off, I honestly felt that whilst we didn't pick up masses of points at the end of the season, at times we played some of the best football I've seen in years. The Wigan game particularly springs to mind. Bearing in mind the injury list and quality of opposition in the run in, I hardly feel the wheels fell off.
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Post by Okebournegas on May 30, 2018 18:13:35 GMT
His record of promotions is great no problem with that but my gripe is that he only has experience of lower league football and for us to move forward we need a more experienced manager. the inconsistency last season showed it just look at November and December and probably the last 8 or so games it all fell apart. I did did not think that I set the bar too high last season my bar was set at a top 10 finish and a positive goal difference something we should have been able to achieve , I did not ask for top 2 or even top 6 , under DC we are not ready for that Forget our allegiance to Rovers for a moment and consider say, Tranmere, who have just been promoted from the National League. A club similar to where we were back then in some ways, traditional 3rd tier club who had fallen upon hard times and are turning the corner... Would you expect them to gain another promotion next season and then secure two top ten finishes? It's not impossible, but it's a big ask. There's inevitably a levelling out following such quick progress, and it's not as if we ever really flirted with relegation last season. I would think that after selling our best player in each of the last two seasons, finishing 10th and 13th represents pretty solid performances. I'd happily take more of the same next season. And as for the wheels falling off, I honestly felt that whilst we didn't pick up masses of points at the end of the season, at times we played some of the best football I've seen in years. The Wigan game particularly springs to mind. Bearing in mind the injury list and quality of opposition in the run in, I hardly feel the wheels fell off. 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
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Post by Okebournegas on May 30, 2018 18:17:08 GMT
His record of promotions is great no problem with that but my gripe is that he only has experience of lower league football and for us to move forward we need a more experienced manager. the inconsistency last season showed it just look at November and December and probably the last 8 or so games it all fell apart. I did did not think that I set the bar too high last season my bar was set at a top 10 finish and a positive goal difference something we should have been able to achieve , I did not ask for top 2 or even top 6 , under DC we are not ready for that Forget our allegiance to Rovers for a moment and consider say, Tranmere, who have just been promoted from the National League. A club similar to where we were back then in some ways, traditional 3rd tier club who had fallen upon hard times and are turning the corner... Would you expect them to gain another promotion next season and then secure two top ten finishes? It's not impossible, but it's a big ask. There's inevitably a levelling out following such quick progress, and it's not as if we ever really flirted with relegation last season. I would think that after selling our best player in each of the last two seasons, finishing 10th and 13th represents pretty solid performances. I'd happily take more of the same next season. And as for the wheels falling off, I honestly felt that whilst we didn't pick up masses of points at the end of the season, at times we played some of the best football I've seen in years. The Wigan game particularly springs to mind. Bearing in mind the injury list and quality of opposition in the run in, I hardly feel the wheels fell off. Surely by now you must of realised that the locals on here are only happy when their moaning ! If it ain't moaning about the kiosks at the club only selling cheese and onion crisps their moaning about how long it's taking for an announcement about an announcement!!!!
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Post by Topper Gas on May 30, 2018 18:28:15 GMT
Wild statement without reading what is written. Actual DC quote not guesswork. The players named were quoted by me as a question based on the quote. Pretty sure DC was implying that players shouldn't think they would be here next season as they had a contract not we'd be selling our best players! He even went as far as saying that Smith needed to buck his ideas up. If you look at the BBC website there's very few transfers at any level at present. Probably just 1 or 2 at most for the vast majority of clubs.
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Post by socrates on May 30, 2018 20:32:49 GMT
Surely you can name some of the "number of managers around at the moment looking for a new club"? I would welcome Olly with open arms but someone at the club has upset him so how about Chris Coleman Yeah let’s get rid of the best manager we’ve had since Gerry Francis and bring in Chris Coleman. Belter post of the year.
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Post by Slide away on May 30, 2018 21:57:49 GMT
Surely you can name some of the "number of managers around at the moment looking for a new club"? I would welcome Olly with open arms but someone at the club has upset him so how about Chris Coleman This is becoming absolute comedy gold!!!!
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