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Post by tommym9 on Apr 24, 2018 15:12:18 GMT
I can see how that would be a problem, but its the same if you're sat in the stand. You can't go anywhere without someone else getting up to let you past. As far as I know the seats are locked in the 'up' position so that people cannot sit in the rail seating section. Thats how I've seen it explained anyway. Begs the question why have seats if they are " locked in the up position". Surely you can stand or sit down but as in the present seating situation, those seated can not see if people in front stand. And why go to the much greater expense of rail seats if they can not be used. An all seater stadium is what we want firstly, although even that is a pipe dream at present until the revival of the UWE is announced. The design of the rail seats is so that the seats can be up or down depending on domestic or European competitions. Admittedly that isn't going to affect us much now, but it will come in handy when we're hosting Barca
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Post by Blueside on Apr 24, 2018 15:41:59 GMT
We've got safe standing, it's called standing. If you want to sit happy days, if you're going to stand then you don't need a seat. It's only happy days of the person in front of you also wants to sit.
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Post by badengas on Apr 24, 2018 16:18:17 GMT
We've got safe standing, it's called standing. If you want to sit happy days, if you're going to stand then you don't need a seat. It's only happy days of the person in front of you also wants to sit. Agreed, could solve this problem and the H&S with seatbelts that only open for half time and full time or if there's a real reason to stand up such as a goal, abusing the ref or to sing " stand up if you hate the sh!t".
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Post by lulworthgas on Apr 25, 2018 15:43:48 GMT
Now past the 100000 mark.
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Apr 25, 2018 22:49:34 GMT
Now past the 100000 mark. I believe that means it has to be raised in the House of Commons?
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 25, 2018 22:59:29 GMT
Now past the 100000 mark. I believe that means it has to be raised in the House of Commons? Don't think so, has to be considered for debate. Could still be but not definite.
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Post by tommym9 on Apr 26, 2018 10:12:29 GMT
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Post by pirate on May 4, 2018 11:46:44 GMT
The Government has responded to the petition – “Allow Premier League and Championship football clubs to introduce safe standing”.
Government responded:
The Government believes that all-seater stadia are currently the best means to ensure the safety and security of fans at designated football matches in England and Wales.
The Government thanks all the football supporters who made their views known through this petition.
The Government believes that all-seater stadia are currently the best means to ensure the safety and security of fans at designated football matches in England and Wales, while continuing to work closely with the Sports Grounds Safety Authority and football authorities to consider advances in technology and data that may enhance the existing policy.
A debate in Parliament on this issue has been tabled for 25 June, when the nuances and complexities of sports ground safety will be covered in more detail.
Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport
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Post by scoobydoogas on May 4, 2018 11:56:33 GMT
Nothing's going to change then.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on May 24, 2018 13:37:38 GMT
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Post by lpgas on May 24, 2018 13:49:20 GMT
Rail seats will never be sat on. What safe standing does is give each person the same space as a seat. So no increase in capacity , which was one of the arguments for having safe standing.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2018 11:18:59 GMT
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Post by miamigas on Jun 9, 2018 15:28:46 GMT
I will never support any form of safe standing because its not safe Simple Any evidence to back this up? The Taylor report. UTG!
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Jun 9, 2018 15:38:32 GMT
Any evidence to back this up? The Taylor report. UTG! Standing isn’t unsafe though is it? If it is how come we can do it still at the Mem? Terraces weren’t to blame for Hillsborough. The fences at the front and diabolical policing were.
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Post by gaelgas on Jun 9, 2018 15:58:49 GMT
Small steps, get them to allow so called 'safe standing' once people get used to that in the premier league/championship again then push for normal terracing.
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Post by Gas-Ed on Jun 10, 2018 15:26:48 GMT
In my opinion, safe standing is the only option going forward. People will always stand at football, whether they are in a seated section or not. Safe standing areas are by far safer than standing in a seated area, where room is limited and you have the back of the chair in front half way up your shins. How often do we see people tumbling over seats due to standing in seated areas? Safe standing almost completely eliminates that risk.
For me it’s simple, supporters will stand no matter what, so why not make it safer for those who want to stand?
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Post by inee on Jun 10, 2018 15:40:12 GMT
We've got safe standing, it's called standing. If you want to sit happy days, if you're going to stand then you don't need a seat. It's only happy days of the person in front of you also wants to sit. Quite frankly if the person in front wants to sit turf em out of the standy bit and shove em in the seaty bit sorted
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Post by inee on Jun 10, 2018 15:41:39 GMT
It's only happy days of the person in front of you also wants to sit. Agreed, could solve this problem and the H&S with seatbelts that only open for half time and full time or if there's a real reason to stand up such as a goal, abusing the ref or to sing " stand up if you hate the sh!t". Whoo steady there fella supporting Rovers is the only rollercoaster ride in the country you don't need seatbelts for
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Post by inee on Jun 10, 2018 15:45:08 GMT
In my opinion, safe standing is the only option going forward. People will always stand at football, whether they are in a seated section or not. Safe standing areas are by far safer than standing in a seated area, where room is limited and you have the back of the chair in front half way up your shins. How often do we see people tumbling over seats due to standing in seated areas? Safe standing almost completely eliminates that risk. For me it’s simple, supporters will stand no matter what, so why not make it safer for those who want to stand? To be fair unless your disabled if you cant stand unaided or fall over the seat in front then sit somewhere ,personally i prefer it the way it is as if something happens theres always a way to go if your railed in then you have limited options, totally unsafe imo ,also give the biggest criminal gang in the country more chance of hitting or tasering someone innocently watching the football
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Post by mattgashead on Jun 10, 2018 20:47:34 GMT
In my opinion, safe standing is the only option going forward. People will always stand at football, whether they are in a seated section or not. Safe standing areas are by far safer than standing in a seated area, where room is limited and you have the back of the chair in front half way up your shins. How often do we see people tumbling over seats due to standing in seated areas? Safe standing almost completely eliminates that risk. For me it’s simple, supporters will stand no matter what, so why not make it safer for those who want to stand? Couldn’t agree more, anyone remember the last away game they went to wher people weren’t standing up in seated areas? And besides, I like standing anyway, massively contributes to the atmosphere. Fingers crossed it can be part of the mem redevelopment/UWE/whatever the f**k happens to our stadium as standing in the Thatchers end is one of the reasons why the atmosphere in there is so good, as admitted by rival fans.
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