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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 9, 2018 5:34:29 GMT
Despite my best efforts I just can't get that enthused by this current England team nor the 'football's coming home' hullabaloo. Yes Southgate's done a good job and got them playing as a unit and for each other which is more than can be said for other England sides of the last 10 to 15 years but World Champions - really? I was around for the 66 World Cup and we had a team of true Champions - 3 genuine world class players Banks, Moore, and Bobby Charlton backed up by the likes of Jimmy Greaves Jimmy Armfield Alan Ball and Ray Wilson. We beat Argentine Portugal (who were with Eusebio were one of the tournament favorites) and of course West Germany. At the end we really were undisputed winners and world champions. This team has beaten Tunisia, Panama ( Rio Ferdinand described them of being non league standard) squeezed past Colombia (missing their best player)and defeated a one paced functional Swedish team. We have lost to the one quality side we've met so far who rested their 3 best players (yes I know we made 8 changes as well)and created only one chance. England could well get to the final (Croatia despite having Modric Perisic and Rakitic look flawed) and after all it is cup football, if France or Belgium don't perform to their potential we could actually win it. But if that actually happens could we really say England are the best team in the World? I always feel the best team playing the best football should win the World Cup and I just don't think this team can live up to that billing. Why should they? If they lose then how can they call themselves the best? At the end of the day with that logic, you are going to end up very miserable. This is the first time that I have seen us reach the semi final (bar 1990 but I was too young), so I'm going to bloody enjoy it. We had better players in the Eriksson era (IMO) but we didn't gel as a team and didn't have an identity. Why should the team playing the best football win it? It's a cup competition. How many times does the team playing the best football, win the fa cup? At the end of the day, IF, and it's a big if we do win it. Then how can anybody argue? Are you seriously going to sit there and mope that we didn't play the best football anyway whilst the rest of the country is celebrating? Lighten up and enjoy the moment! (but not to the extent where you feel you have to throw your pint over everyone or jump on an ambulance).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2018 7:02:50 GMT
Despite my best efforts I just can't get that enthused by this current England team nor the 'football's coming home' hullabaloo. Yes Southgate's done a good job and got them playing as a unit and for each other which is more than can be said for other England sides of the last 10 to 15 years but World Champions - really? I was around for the 66 World Cup and we had a team of true Champions - 3 genuine world class players Banks, Moore, and Bobby Charlton backed up by the likes of Jimmy Greaves Jimmy Armfield Alan Ball and Ray Wilson. We beat Argentine Portugal (who were with Eusebio were one of the tournament favorites) and of course West Germany. At the end we really were undisputed winners and world champions. This team has beaten Tunisia, Panama ( Rio Ferdinand described them of being non league standard) squeezed past Colombia (missing their best player)and defeated a one paced functional Swedish team. We have lost to the one quality side we've met so far who rested their 3 best players (yes I know we made 8 changes as well)and created only one chance. England could well get to the final (Croatia despite having Modric Perisic and Rakitic look flawed) and after all it is cup football, if France or Belgium don't perform to their potential we could actually win it. But if that actually happens could we really say England are the best team in the World? I always feel the best team playing the best football should win the World Cup and I just don't think this team can live up to that billing. Footballs coming home whether you like it or not walcotgas it’s coming home. UTG
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Post by stapletongas on Jul 9, 2018 7:12:36 GMT
Ridiculous op
A successful England WC will see more people getting out playing and watching the game. It can only be good for the game in this Country from grassroots and local park teams upwards.
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Jul 9, 2018 7:51:22 GMT
Well, yet again you assumed wrong. So what is your purpose you troll? To read & write about Rovers, you are the only self confessed troll on here my friend, or have you forgotten you admitted to openly winding up fellow Gasheads? Over to you.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 9, 2018 8:00:40 GMT
So what is your purpose you troll? To read & write about Rovers, you are the only self confessed troll on here my friend, or have you forgotten you admitted to openly winding up fellow Gasheads?
Over to you. And therein lies the difference. I have admitted to that in the past and it is partly in my nature. You, however, try doing it but don't have the balls to admit it or end up trying to backtrack.
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Post by gregsy on Jul 9, 2018 9:32:28 GMT
Troll or not a troll one thing I have observed over the years is GGMI's remarkable ability to make friends
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Jul 9, 2018 9:35:19 GMT
To read & write about Rovers, you are the only self confessed troll on here my friend, or have you forgotten you admitted to openly winding up fellow Gasheads?
Over to you. And therein lies the difference. I have admitted to that in the past and it is partly in my nature. You, however, try doing it but don't have the balls to admit it or end up trying to backtrack. There you go, I don't admit to anything I haven't done. Over to you friend.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2018 10:11:43 GMT
Despite my best efforts I just can't get that enthused by this current England team nor the 'football's coming home' hullabaloo. Yes Southgate's done a good job and got them playing as a unit and for each other which is more than can be said for other England sides of the last 10 to 15 years but World Champions - really? I was around for the 66 World Cup and we had a team of true Champions - 3 genuine world class players Banks, Moore, and Bobby Charlton backed up by the likes of Jimmy Greaves Jimmy Armfield Alan Ball and Ray Wilson. We beat Argentine Portugal (who were with Eusebio were one of the tournament favorites) and of course West Germany. At the end we really were undisputed winners and world champions. This team has beaten Tunisia, Panama ( Rio Ferdinand described them of being non league standard) squeezed past Colombia (missing their best player)and defeated a one paced functional Swedish team. We have lost to the one quality side we've met so far who rested their 3 best players (yes I know we made 8 changes as well)and created only one chance. England could well get to the final (Croatia despite having Modric Perisic and Rakitic look flawed) and after all it is cup football, if France or Belgium don't perform to their potential we could actually win it. But if that actually happens could we really say England are the best team in the World? I always feel the best team playing the best football should win the World Cup and I just don't think this team can live up to that billing. In 1966 we had home advantage in a 16 team tournament, were one of the big football nations in an era when there were far fewer decent national football sides, changed the semi final venue because the draw didn't suit us and also got booed off after our opening game. Jack Charlton did to Portugal exactly what Suarez did to Ghana, Charlton didn't get any flak for deliberately handling to deny a goal but Suarez was 'cheating scum'. I'm not putting down the 66 side, just pointing out that not everything was perfect. The current side cannot help how the draw has panned out and it's unfair to diminish their achievement IF they go on to win the cup. Why can't we as a nation just enjoy relative success rather than find negatives?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2018 16:19:06 GMT
Despite my best efforts I just can't get that enthused by this current England team nor the 'football's coming home' hullabaloo. Yes Southgate's done a good job and got them playing as a unit and for each other which is more than can be said for other England sides of the last 10 to 15 years but World Champions - really? I was around for the 66 World Cup and we had a team of true Champions - 3 genuine world class players Banks, Moore, and Bobby Charlton backed up by the likes of Jimmy Greaves Jimmy Armfield Alan Ball and Ray Wilson. We beat Argentine Portugal (who were with Eusebio were one of the tournament favorites) and of course West Germany. At the end we really were undisputed winners and world champions. This team has beaten Tunisia, Panama ( Rio Ferdinand described them of being non league standard) squeezed past Colombia (missing their best player)and defeated a one paced functional Swedish team. We have lost to the one quality side we've met so far who rested their 3 best players (yes I know we made 8 changes as well)and created only one chance. England could well get to the final (Croatia despite having Modric Perisic and Rakitic look flawed) and after all it is cup football, if France or Belgium don't perform to their potential we could actually win it. But if that actually happens could we really say England are the best team in the World? I always feel the best team playing the best football should win the World Cup and I just don't think this team can live up to that billing. I don't think you are cut out for this football supporting lark my friend. Judging by your post, you could have potential to be an excellent stamp collector or model train enthusiast.
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Jul 9, 2018 16:31:31 GMT
Why is this in allowed to be on here ?
If u want England to lose then f**k off you nasty little lady garden
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Post by spiess1 on Jul 9, 2018 16:45:07 GMT
Why is this in allowed to be on here ? If u want England to lose then f**k off you nasty little lady garden I trust the mods will act as requested by MM. Only,..on his own post.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Jul 9, 2018 18:53:45 GMT
I've really tried but I can't get my head around the reasoning given by the OP. I would get not supporting it, remaining neutral etc but willing failure I don't get. I don't know much about foreign football but I imagine it's must the same to our premier league set-up? Wouldn't you wish failure on them all?
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Post by gaelgas on Jul 9, 2018 19:14:20 GMT
Yeah, me too. I give the Welsh, Scots and Irish the same amount of love and support they give us. Yes, it’s well known that the Celts support two teams..... Yep, Wales and anyone playing Scotland for me :-)
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Post by Big Jock on Jul 9, 2018 19:37:12 GMT
Yes, it’s well known that the Celts support two teams..... Yep, Wales and anyone playing Scotland for me :-) lighten up, its the 12th July Thursday
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Post by walcotgas on Jul 9, 2018 22:36:51 GMT
Despite my best efforts I just can't get that enthused by this current England team nor the 'football's coming home' hullabaloo. Yes Southgate's done a good job and got them playing as a unit and for each other which is more than can be said for other England sides of the last 10 to 15 years but World Champions - really? I was around for the 66 World Cup and we had a team of true Champions - 3 genuine world class players Banks, Moore, and Bobby Charlton backed up by the likes of Jimmy Greaves Jimmy Armfield Alan Ball and Ray Wilson. We beat Argentine Portugal (who were with Eusebio were one of the tournament favorites) and of course West Germany. At the end we really were undisputed winners and world champions. This team has beaten Tunisia, Panama ( Rio Ferdinand described them of being non league standard) squeezed past Colombia (missing their best player)and defeated a one paced functional Swedish team. We have lost to the one quality side we've met so far who rested their 3 best players (yes I know we made 8 changes as well)and created only one chance. England could well get to the final (Croatia despite having Modric Perisic and Rakitic look flawed) and after all it is cup football, if France or Belgium don't perform to their potential we could actually win it. But if that actually happens could we really say England are the best team in the World? I always feel the best team playing the best football should win the World Cup and I just don't think this team can live up to that billing. Why should they? If they lose then how can they call themselves the best? At the end of the day with that logic, you are going to end up very miserable. This is the first time that I have seen us reach the semi final (bar 1990 but I was too young), so I'm going to bloody enjoy it. We had better players in the Eriksson era (IMO) but we didn't gel as a team and didn't have an identity. Why should the team playing the best football win it? It's a cup competition. How many times does the team playing the best football, win the fa cup? At the end of the day, IF, and it's a big if we do win it. Then how can anybody argue? Are you seriously going to sit there and mope that we didn't play the best football anyway whilst the rest of the country is celebrating? Lighten up and enjoy the moment! (but not to the extent where you feel you have to throw your pint over everyone or jump on an ambulance). That's fair enough. I guess for fans your age you've not seen a successful England side so I hope they win it for you and you savour the victory. I view the World Cup differently from when I was younger when I was as passionate about England as anyone. I lost interest in the National side after all the golden generation hype with the 2006 competition. Now I see it as a chance to see the Worlds best players performing at the highest level, whatever their nationality. So seeing Messi score his sublime finish against Nigeria, Belgium's perfectly executed 3rd goal against Japan and Couthho's outstanding chip to set up Augusto's goal against Belgium are the moments that I really enjoy from the competition. I' ve probably posted on the wrong thread as I don't wish to see England fail I'm just indifferent to whether they win or not.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 9, 2018 23:10:49 GMT
I had a good friend who couldn't take to Eriksson and boycotted England games because of it. We actually had the odd fallout because of it. He regained his passion just in time for the 5-1 win against Germany. Funny that.
I also worked with someone who didn't like the way the England rugby union team under Will Carling played and despite being a proud Englishman wanted them to lose.
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Post by socrates on Jul 10, 2018 0:02:12 GMT
A couple on here have definitely given me the impression that they want DC to fail at Rovers over the years too. I can’t my head around it either. I honestly wasn’t convinced Southgate was the right man for the job but I’m now 80% convinced he is and I’m happy that I appear to be proven wrong. I couldn’t stand Mark Mc ghee or those players he signed but I still turned up every week and supported them because Rovers are my club and I supported England under Coppelo because England are my nation even though I disliked him probably even more than Mc Ghee.
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