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Post by Okebournegas on Jul 19, 2018 11:33:14 GMT
There is no such thing as a free transfer. Most players want a £25k signing on fee for a starter, then the wages, tax, Ni, insurance, house move, bonus for appearances, goals, assists. To be honest I blame the Premier League for a lot of the ills in football, and the level of wages, which even DC thinks are high These school teachers sure know their stuff! Be careful what you say to lpgas, if he takes offence, he will go all chuck Norris on your ass as he’s proper ard’
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Post by blueridge on Jul 19, 2018 11:37:50 GMT
This has to be a risky signing - a gamble surely if true. One competitve match in 12 months before a serious injury - don't understand this personally. I wished he'd never signed Bodin either. Bodin was initially signed on a very short term contract to prove himself - don't understand the relevance - so what you are suggesting is, that there is no risk signing a player who suffered a serious injury twelve months ago and hasn't played a league game since?
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Post by optogas on Jul 19, 2018 11:51:10 GMT
Surely any player you sign, could be injured within days and be out all season anyway, so I personally can't see how it is anymore risky then signing any other player. If they pass the medical than what's to worry about?
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 19, 2018 11:52:41 GMT
I wished he'd never signed Bodin either. Bodin was initially signed on a very short term contract to prove himself - don't understand the relevance - so what you are suggesting is, that there is no risk signing a player who suffered a serious injury twelve months ago and hasn't played a league game since? No he hasn't suggested that at all. Where did you get that impression from?
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jul 19, 2018 11:58:43 GMT
Surely any player you sign, could be injured within days and be out all season anyway, so I personally can't see how it is anymore risky then signing any other player. If they pass the medical than what's to worry about?
Its true any player can get injured but there are players who are more prone to it and many who are not the same after an injury (mentally and physically).
It like insurance, if you have poor health or lots of car accidents then you are more risk to the insurer.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 19, 2018 12:11:36 GMT
Surely any player you sign, could be injured within days and be out all season anyway, so I personally can't see how it is anymore risky then signing any other player. If they pass the medical than what's to worry about?
Its true any player can get injured but there are players who are more prone to it and many who are not the same after an injury (mentally and physically).
It like insurance, if you have poor health or lots of car accidents then you are more risk to the insurer.
Yep. The other way of looking at it though is that if we had signed him at the peak of his career 2 years ago. We would have been looking at paying £500k for him whereas now he might be coming here for next to nothing!
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Post by faggotygas on Jul 19, 2018 12:44:50 GMT
Fact - he has played less than one whole competitive match in the last 12 months before injury finished his season in August of last year. I take from what you wrote initially that he played one competitive match in the year before his injury? Have I got that right or am I misinterpreting what you said? Do you actually mean that he only played the full 90 minutes once in the year before he had his injury? Or do you mean that he got injured and he hasn’t played in the 12 months since, so in the 12 months after his injury, rather than before? I’m a bit confused. The lad was 20, an emerging prospect in a good championship squad that ended up getting promotion. Do you know if he had any underlying injury concerns before he got injured? Or was he being eased in, getting useful experience as many youngsters are? Starting 7 games is no mean feat in a high end Championship team. I get that there is an element of risk but might be worth taking? Presumably not on a long term contract.... Commas rock.
"he has played less than one whole competitive match in the last 12 months before injury finished his season in August of last year."
Is not the same as:
"he has played less than one whole competitive match in the last 12 months, before injury finished his season in August of last year."
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jul 19, 2018 12:48:29 GMT
All a bit irrelevant until he signs
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Post by axegas on Jul 19, 2018 12:55:36 GMT
Its true any player can get injured but there are players who are more prone to it and many who are not the same after an injury (mentally and physically).
It like insurance, if you have poor health or lots of car accidents then you are more risk to the insurer.
Yep. The other way of looking at it though is that if we had signed him at the peak of his career 2 years ago. We would have been looking at paying £500k for him whereas now he might be coming here for next to nothing! He's only 22 so it would be harsh to say the peak of his career was at 20 because he's got a lot of years ahead of him. He fits DC's bill of having a point to prove and being young hopefully he's got the potential to perform at the championship level. I'd say we would still be looking at paying something like £200k or more for him though as he is young, still in contract and played a number of games in the championship just over a year ago.
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Post by mehewmagic on Jul 19, 2018 12:58:53 GMT
Is football coming holmes?
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 19, 2018 13:07:30 GMT
Surely any player you sign, could be injured within days and be out all season anyway, so I personally can't see how it is anymore risky then signing any other player. If they pass the medical than what's to worry about? Like oxlade chamberlain for Liverpool.... Played a few games now out for the season
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 19, 2018 13:08:41 GMT
Yep. The other way of looking at it though is that if we had signed him at the peak of his career 2 years ago. We would have been looking at paying £500k for him whereas now he might be coming here for next to nothing! He's only 22 so it would be harsh to say the peak of his career was at 20 because he's got a lot of years ahead of him. He fits DC's bill of having a point to prove and being young hopefully he's got the potential to perform at the championship level. I'd say we would still be looking at paying something like £200k or more for him though as he is young, still in contract and played a number of games in the championship just over a year ago. Maybe didn't word that the best axegas. What I meant was the peak of his career so far.
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Post by axegas on Jul 19, 2018 13:11:18 GMT
He's only 22 so it would be harsh to say the peak of his career was at 20 because he's got a lot of years ahead of him. He fits DC's bill of having a point to prove and being young hopefully he's got the potential to perform at the championship level. I'd say we would still be looking at paying something like £200k or more for him though as he is young, still in contract and played a number of games in the championship just over a year ago. Maybe didn't word that the best axegas . What I meant was the peak of his career so far. Ok, fair enough. I think we both agree that this would be a good signing though?
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jul 19, 2018 13:18:15 GMT
I'm not so sure we should be signing double-barrelled surnames!
Clarke-Salter wasn't brilliant. Nor was Nichols-Missesagain.
I suppose Paul Paul-Randall was ok..
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Post by seanclevedongas on Jul 19, 2018 13:26:42 GMT
I take from what you wrote initially that he played one competitive match in the year before his injury? Have I got that right or am I misinterpreting what you said? Do you actually mean that he only played the full 90 minutes once in the year before he had his injury? Or do you mean that he got injured and he hasn’t played in the 12 months since, so in the 12 months after his injury, rather than before? I’m a bit confused. The lad was 20, an emerging prospect in a good championship squad that ended up getting promotion. Do you know if he had any underlying injury concerns before he got injured? Or was he being eased in, getting useful experience as many youngsters are? Starting 7 games is no mean feat in a high end Championship team. I get that there is an element of risk but might be worth taking? Presumably not on a long term contract.... Cosmos rock.
"he has played less than one whole competitive match in the last 12 months before injury finished his season in August of last year."
Is not the same as:
"he has played less than one whole competitive match in the last 12 months, before injury finished his season in August of last year."
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 19, 2018 13:40:24 GMT
Maybe didn't word that the best axegas . What I meant was the peak of his career so far. Ok, fair enough. I think we both agree that this would be a good signing though? Appears to be, yes.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2018 13:41:11 GMT
I'm not so sure we should be signing double-barrelled surnames! Clarke-Salter wasn't brilliant. Nor was Nichols-Missesagain. I suppose Paul Paul-Randall was ok.. Or Al-Qadi?
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Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on Jul 19, 2018 14:17:29 GMT
I'm not so sure we should be signing double-barrelled surnames! Clarke-Salter wasn't brilliant. Nor was Nichols-Missesagain. I suppose Paul Paul-Randall was ok.. Or Al-Qadi? Brian-Brian Parkin
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jul 19, 2018 14:38:09 GMT
Tom Nichols-Missed
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Jul 19, 2018 14:42:21 GMT
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