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Post by warehamgas on Jul 27, 2018 14:42:05 GMT
Upson will improve us defensively and allow Sercombe to be more effective in supporting the attack. We have more midfield options than last season when, come the end, we had very few. With the wide options we have now we might surprise some teams in the way we play because it might be different to the last few seasons. We obviously need two strikers and if we get the right ones we could be competing for a play off place, in other words anyway between 10th to 4th. Without the strikers we will be lower mid table. I’m pretty sure we will get the strikers in and I just hope they will be good enough to improve us. If they are better goalscorers than Rory and Ellis we will do well, if not then much of the same from last season which would be disappointing but not a tragedy. We are slowly improving, not quick enough for some but gradually in an evolutionary way (cough!!). UTG!
ps. Having read all the thread now, as it stands we definitely need strikers and cj’s views about “struggling” without some additions could be accurate. He’s copping a lot of stick when he’s stating a fairly realistic point of view. I’m pretty optimistic but we do need additions in attack at the moment.
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Post by cj on Jul 27, 2018 15:02:12 GMT
Lets say we have no more arrivals or departures and the window shuts. So we just have 2 strikers. 1 who is injured and unknown when he will return and hasn't play at our level before or even in England before. The other cant score in a brothel. So basically, the squad as it is.... do you think we will manage mid table or above? This should be interesting, if you answer of course!
Mid table, and happy at that, like I said previously. Interesting enough for you? So you can judge the current squad then before the season starts! That wasn't hard was it. FFS
So you think based on what we have now that we will end mid table. You have got a hell of a lot of confidence in our only 2 strikers!
And I think 17th or below, because I actually recognise the issues of just having 2 strikers.
Hopefully 2 new strikers come in and can make this debate irrelevant!
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Post by baggins on Jul 27, 2018 15:10:40 GMT
Mid table, and happy at that, like I said previously. Interesting enough for you? So you can judge the current squad then before the season starts! That wasn't hard was it. FFS
So you think based on what we have now that we will end mid table. You have got a hell of a lot of confidence in our only 2 strikers!
And I think 17th or below, because I actually recognise the issues of just having 2 strikers.
Hopefully 2 new strikers come in and can make this debate irrelevant!
Well done, good for you. Have a biscuit.
Jeez.
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Post by cj on Jul 27, 2018 15:12:06 GMT
Ok, so because I posted a prediction that may seem negative to you, you say its a bit early to say it. But all the others who have predicted is not a bit early for them because its more positive looking? Strange that! Even stranger that I even said I wont give an actual predictions as its too early where there could be more departures and hopefully more in-comings, so I am unsure why you are telling me its a bit early (and not to anyone else) when I even said the same thing myself
If its the case of me saying based on current squad we will finish 17th or below that upsets you, I am interested in knowing why you disagree with this. I am basing it on the fact that we have just 2 strikers. You know, the very people who should get the majority of our goals! One being Nichols who scored 1 league goal last season and so far doesnt look like he has actually improved either (I really hope I am wrong) and Reilly who apparently is injured so may not be fit to start the season and has never played in England before. So, now be honest with yourself, does this strike you with confidence for a mid table or higher finish? We may have a solid defence and midfield but 46 0-0 draws will not make us end mid table or higher. No chance. Hence my comment 17th or below based on what we currently have.
According to the Rovers web site even allowing for Gaffney, Telford and Harrison leaving the squad still has 7 strikers. Gaffney and Harrison being already replaced by Rodman and Reilly. Clarke has stated he is looking to strengthen the number of strikers even further. You thus appear to be basing you thoughts on incorrect data. Perhaps a half empty fan rather than half full. No, I am basing it on us having 2 actual strikers. Nichols and Reilly. Rodman is not a striker. Nor is Bennett or anyone else who plays in attacking midfielder roles either. Yes they may be able to fill in as a striker now and then but that is not their actual position. If DC plays them as strikers all season, he will get a lot of criticism by a lot of fans. And playing attacking midfielders as strikers will probably cement a 17th or lower place. Of course we have another 2 strikers in the development squad, Ebbutt and Kavanagh but they are not ready for consistent 1st team football. Perhaps a unrealistic fan rather than a realistic fan.
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Post by 1986gas on Jul 27, 2018 15:15:27 GMT
Pretty sure that one of our promotion seasons was off the back of goals coming from all over the team and having no stand out striker scoring the lions share of the goals for the season, complete faith in the most successful manager ever at BRFC to deliver an entertaining and positive season, just hope he doesn't read this forum, if you do DC remember many people back you, ignore the doom mongers and whingers showing no faith in besides your track record.
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Post by cj on Jul 27, 2018 15:16:04 GMT
So you can judge the current squad then before the season starts! That wasn't hard was it. FFS
So you think based on what we have now that we will end mid table. You have got a hell of a lot of confidence in our only 2 strikers!
And I think 17th or below, because I actually recognise the issues of just having 2 strikers.
Hopefully 2 new strikers come in and can make this debate irrelevant!
Well done, good for you. Have a biscuit.
Jeez.
Thanks, I will princess
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Post by Okebournegas on Jul 27, 2018 15:23:36 GMT
So you can judge the current squad then before the season starts! That wasn't hard was it. FFS
So you think based on what we have now that we will end mid table. You have got a hell of a lot of confidence in our only 2 strikers!
And I think 17th or below, because I actually recognise the issues of just having 2 strikers.
Hopefully 2 new strikers come in and can make this debate irrelevant!
Well done, good for you. Have a biscuit.
Jeez.
Didn’t offer me one you stingy barsteward !
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Post by baggins on Jul 27, 2018 15:27:20 GMT
Well done, good for you. Have a biscuit.
Jeez.
Didn’t offer me one you stingy barsteward ! Oh go on then, bourbon, custard cream, hob nob, one of those vile pink things?
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Post by cj on Jul 27, 2018 15:34:00 GMT
Pretty sure that one of our promotion seasons was off the back of goals coming from all over the team and having no stand out striker scoring the lions share of the goals for the season, complete faith in the most successful manager ever at BRFC to deliver an entertaining and positive season, just hope he doesn't read this forum, if you do DC remember many people back you, ignore the doom mongers and whingers showing no faith in besides your track record. Not sure I get your point to be honest.
2014/15 promotion season - Taylor scored 20.
2015/16 promotion season - Taylor scored 27.
Not sure either that anyone is doom mongers and whingers either and showing no faith, unless you are talking about 0.00001% of the forum, who for some dumb reason, wants DC gone! Otherwise, don't confuse those including me who think we will struggle this season (based on the current squad) as us being doom and gloom with no faith. Its just being realistic with what we got. However, if we improve our striking options, which I believe and I am sure many other will believe too, that DC will improve our striking options, that will change the predictions to a better season and possibly a great season.
Anyway, I am off to buy some more biscuits
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 27, 2018 15:37:05 GMT
I love a bourbon, me.
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Post by poorblue on Jul 27, 2018 15:37:17 GMT
According to the Rovers web site even allowing for Gaffney, Telford and Harrison leaving the squad still has 7 strikers. Gaffney and Harrison being already replaced by Rodman and Reilly. Clarke has stated he is looking to strengthen the number of strikers even further. You thus appear to be basing you thoughts on incorrect data. Perhaps a half empty fan rather than half full. No, I am basing it on us having 2 actual strikers. Nichols and Reilly. Rodman is not a striker. Nor is Bennett or anyone else who plays in attacking midfielder roles either. Yes they may be able to fill in as a striker now and then but that is not their actual position. If DC plays them as strikers all season, he will get a lot of criticism by a lot of fans. And playing attacking midfielders as strikers will probably cement a 17th or lower place. Of course we have another 2 strikers in the development squad, Ebbutt and Kavanagh but they are not ready for consistent 1st team football. Perhaps a unrealistic fan rather than a realistic fan. Your quote not mine. I am basing it on the fact that we have just 2 strikers. "Actual" strikers quoted by Rovers management team on the web site is 7 with press statement that they are looking to increase that. Midfielders are quoted elsewhere as midfielders. Think I will follow the official management team for now when they are fully trained and qualified football coaches and seem to know a bit or two about team selection. Yes there are attacking midfielders as there are attacking fullbacks. Even defensive strikers as in the case of Harrison and Gaffney. Older fans from Twerton days will remember we signed a full back who became one of the best strikers "Carl Saunders" and a winger who became one of our best full backs "Jocky". The game is all about who scores more than the other team whoever scores them. Even goalkeepers score goals, doesn't make them strikers
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Post by gonzales on Jul 27, 2018 15:38:01 GMT
Top six.
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Post by cj on Jul 27, 2018 15:38:33 GMT
ps. Having read all the thread now, as it stands we definitely need strikers and cj’s views about “struggling” without some additions could be accurate. He’s copping a lot of stick when he’s stating a fairly realistic point of view. I’m pretty optimistic but we do need additions in attack at the moment. Thank you. It really aint that difficult. You can share my biscuits with me
I am slightly different to you. I am very optimistic (not pretty optimistic) that we will have a good season but as long as we get more additions in attack as you say. I believe in DC to do this.
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Post by cj on Jul 27, 2018 15:42:27 GMT
No, I am basing it on us having 2 actual strikers. Nichols and Reilly. Rodman is not a striker. Nor is Bennett or anyone else who plays in attacking midfielder roles either. Yes they may be able to fill in as a striker now and then but that is not their actual position. If DC plays them as strikers all season, he will get a lot of criticism by a lot of fans. And playing attacking midfielders as strikers will probably cement a 17th or lower place. Of course we have another 2 strikers in the development squad, Ebbutt and Kavanagh but they are not ready for consistent 1st team football. Perhaps a unrealistic fan rather than a realistic fan. Your quote not mine. I am basing it on the fact that we have just 2 strikers. "Actual" strikers quoted by Rovers management team on the web site is 7 with press statement that they are looking to increase that. Midfielders are quoted elsewhere as midfielders. Think I will follow the official management team for now when they are fully trained and qualified football coaches and seem to know a bit or two about team selection. Yes there are attacking midfielders as there are attacking fullbacks. Even defensive strikers as in the case of Harrison and Gaffney. Older fans from Twerton days will remember we signed a full back who became one of the best strikers "Carl Saunders" and a winger who became one of our best full backs "Jocky". The game is all about who scores more than the other team whoever scores them. Even goalkeepers score goals, doesn't make them strikers Can you name the 7 strikers for me please that we currently have in our 1st team squad. Those who are ACTUAL strikers and not those who can fill in when desperate for a goal. So their profile actually says striker. Thanks. If you can name 7 actual strikers and not wingers or attacking midfielders, I will shut the F up for a week
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Post by Gas-Ed on Jul 27, 2018 15:46:52 GMT
All depends on our business over the coming weeks. Couple of good strikers and we could finish 10+ but if we sign another dud we will be in a relegation scrap. You’re only as good as your strikers.
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Post by cj on Jul 27, 2018 15:52:10 GMT
All depends on our business over the coming weeks. Couple of good strikers and we could finish 10+ but if we sign another dud we will be in a relegation scrap. You’re only as good as your strikers. Oh no. We have another doom and gloomer who has no faith in DC blah blah blah. Dont you know we dont need any more strikers because our OS says we have 7 strikers so it must be true!
Spot on though Gas-Ed. 100% agree with you. But because I said it, I am the one getting all the stick while those who also said it gets no response at all. Pleasures of being a realist hey! DC has made some very good signings and I feel we have improved the squad from last season apart from up front. If we can sort this out, which I expect DC will do, I think a top 8 finish and a pretty exciting season.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 27, 2018 15:59:02 GMT
Our Strikers are:
Reilly Nichols Trialist Trialist Trialist Trialist Trialist
Now will you shut up?
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Post by mjhgas on Jul 27, 2018 16:08:36 GMT
Top six - same as DC.
We create chances, someone will stick away a few of them as they have in the last three seasons!
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Post by warehamgas on Jul 27, 2018 16:26:55 GMT
ps. Having read all the thread now, as it stands we definitely need strikers and cj’s views about “struggling” without some additions could be accurate. He’s copping a lot of stick when he’s stating a fairly realistic point of view. I’m pretty optimistic but we do need additions in attack at the moment. Thank you. It really aint that difficult. You can share my biscuits with me
I am slightly different to you. I am very optimistic (not pretty optimistic) that we will have a good season but as long as we get more additions in attack as you say. I believe in DC to do this.
Me, I’m a cheap date good old Tesco value Rich Tea always does it for me! 😉 UTG!
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Post by Okebournegas on Jul 27, 2018 16:48:13 GMT
Didn’t offer me one you stingy barsteward ! Oh go on then, bourbon, custard cream, hob nob, one of those vile pink things? Chocolate hob nobs !!!!
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