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Post by warehamgas on Jul 30, 2018 17:46:15 GMT
Yes, disappointing result but it was a friendly and I wasn’t there so it’s hard to say but from what lots have said we made some howlers defensively and played ok apart from the goals. Keep our nerve, get the strikers signed up and if nothing else DC will have decided upon his central defenders at least for Saturday after that match! UTG!
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Post by pirate on Jul 30, 2018 17:56:57 GMT
I don’t think craig was the answer...we need a big presence in the back line that chips in with goals... Hartley done that for us but defensively not good enough...but takes the pressure off the rest of team if we can be a handful at set pieces ourselves... Flint made a big difference to sh**ty and their struggle without him because of that Hartley was useless in defence, Flint cost a fortune, so Craig must have been seen as the best option, I assume DC also felt Broadbent would progress to become a Flint type CH but for some reason that's not turned out to be the case so far. I tipped off the club about Flint when he was at Alfreton. I would've liked the 6ft 4in centre back Ben Heneghan from Sheffield United and said so back in January, but he's now joined Blackpool on a season loan. Cian Bolger would be a good option, but I can't see him leaving Fleetwood for us. I liked the 6ft 5in lad Josh Heaton at Darlington and said back in January he would be one to watch. He's now joined St Mirren unfortunately. There are a couple of centre back options abroad I've seen several times that look really good that would suit English football. 6ft 2in Israel Puerto and 6ft 5in Luka Bogdan. Both good on the ball and dominant in the air.
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Post by paulpirate on Jul 30, 2018 18:00:01 GMT
Hartley was useless in defence, Flint cost a fortune, so Craig must have been seen as the best option, I assume DC also felt Broadbent would progress to become a Flint type CH but for some reason that's not turned out to be the case so far. I tipped off the club about Flint when he was at Alfreton. I would've liked the 6ft 4in centre back Ben Heneghan from Sheffield United and said so back in January, but he's now joined Blackpool on a season loan. Cian Bolger would be a good option, but I can't see him leaving Fleetwood for us. I liked the 6ft 5in lad Josh Heaton at Darlington and said back in January he would be one to watch. He's now joined St Mirren unfortunately. There are a couple of centre back options abroad I've seen several times that look really good that would suit English football. 6ft 2in Israel Puerto and 6ft 5in Luka Bogdan. Both good on the ball and dominant in the air. teaser
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Post by aghast on Jul 30, 2018 20:25:16 GMT
We need a specialist Defensive Coach. I think we've got more than enough staff now.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2018 22:19:41 GMT
Back four saturday.
Leadbitter loockyer craig j clarke[left-back]
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2018 3:33:27 GMT
Back four saturday. Leadbitter loockyer craig j clarke[left-back] yikes!
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Post by stevek192 on Jul 31, 2018 8:09:49 GMT
The goals conceded were terrible and the goalkeepers glued to the line do not help but it is clear that Broadbent is never going to become a central defender who attacks high balls coming in from wide positions and Craig and Lockyer do not have the height between them to combat every high ball. As long as Darrell persists with wing backs we are likely to struggle with the other option which is to stop the source coming in. Ellis Harrison probably cut out quite a few "goals" with his presence but for me why have your centre forward back all the time when the obvious answer is to get a centre back who can deal with it. In the long term personally I would be writing off Broadbent and concentrating on Mayanese (excuse spelling) but in the short term signing a commanding centre half would help at both ends of the pitch. We must be one of the shortest teams in the League at the moment!!
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 31, 2018 8:34:10 GMT
The goals conceded were terrible and the goalkeepers glued to the line do not help but it is clear that Broadbent is never going to become a central defender who attacks high balls coming in from wide positions and Craig and Lockyer do not have the height between them to combat every high ball. As long as Darrell persists with wing backs we are likely to struggle with the other option which is to stop the source coming in. Ellis Harrison probably cut out quite a few "goals" with his presence but for me why have your centre forward back all the time when the obvious answer is to get a centre back who can deal with it. In the long term personally I would be writing off Broadbent and concentrating on Mayanese (excuse spelling) but in the short term signing a commanding centre half would help at both ends of the pitch. We must be one of the shortest teams in the League at the moment!! What's the betting you posted something similar after Harrison's shocker v P'boro this time last season? As far as Mayanese who many times have you seen him in 1st team action?
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Post by stevek192 on Jul 31, 2018 8:49:14 GMT
Topper Gas , Don't see the love in with Broadbent as the commanding centre half, haven't seen much of Mayanese but his sheer size would, for me, make him a more likely option in the long term. Ideally we would sign a new commanding centre half and have Craig and Lockyer fighting for the other place. Can't remember Harrisons shocker v Peterborough but would never have written him off though might have suggested playing him on the wing! What do you think we should be doing ,Topper?
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Post by berhill4 on Jul 31, 2018 8:54:24 GMT
Topper Gas , Don't see the love in with Broadbent as the commanding centre half, haven't seen much of Mayanese but his sheer size would, for me, make him a more likely option in the long term. Ideally we would sign a new commanding centre half and have Craig and Lockyer fighting for the other place. Can't remember Harrisons shocker v Peterborough but would never have written him off though might have suggested playing him on the wing! What do you think we should be doing ,Topper? You do talk some rubbish at times, your clearly on something !! oh well each to his own !!
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Post by stevek192 on Jul 31, 2018 14:08:01 GMT
berhill4, Why should Mayanese not be a better option in the long term, I have seen Broadbent many times and whenever he comes up against a good player he is torn apart and doesn't dominate on crosses. Craig dominates but isn't tall enough which shows up when alongside Lockyer but they are our best partnership with what we have at present. Nothing rubbish there. How about putting forward your ideas instead of stating mine as rubbish and then telling me I am entitled to my view.
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Post by berhill4 on Jul 31, 2018 15:20:40 GMT
berhill4, Why should Mayanese not be a better option in the long term, I have seen Broadbent many times and whenever he comes up against a good player he is torn apart and doesn't dominate on crosses. Craig dominates but isn't tall enough which shows up when alongside Lockyer but they are our best partnership with what we have at present. Nothing rubbish there. How about putting forward your ideas instead of stating mine as rubbish and then telling me I am entitled to my view. Read the post, you bang on about size and a more likely option have you met then both? And then you go on to say you have not seen much of him, My view is that he should have left Craig in the middle on Saturday as he got torn apart in the first half and instead put Broadbent at left back where he has the freedom to bring the ball out rather than just hump it. And with regards to Saturday do tell apart from Upson and Williams who did play well as you would appear to be the better judge than most on here and that's my view.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 31, 2018 15:32:22 GMT
Topper Gas , Don't see the love in with Broadbent as the commanding centre half, haven't seen much of Mayanese but his sheer size would, for me, make him a more likely option in the long term. Ideally we would sign a new commanding centre half and have Craig and Lockyer fighting for the other place. Can't remember Harrisons shocker v Peterborough but would never have written him off though might have suggested playing him on the wing! What do you think we should be doing ,Topper? If I was DC I'd decide whether or not TB is the long term solution based on what he does on the training ground etc, if so, then I would give him a run of games not just 45 mins once in a while. If I felt he wasn't up to starting I'd send him out on loan to get some 1st team experience as he did with Rollin last season. TC's left footed so I can't he can fight Locks for the right sided CB role. One solution could be 3 at the back, TL, TB, TC but DC's not tried that at all in pre-season.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2018 15:32:43 GMT
berhill4, Why should Mayanese not be a better option in the long term, I have seen Broadbent many times and whenever he comes up against a good player he is torn apart and doesn't dominate on crosses. Craig dominates but isn't tall enough which shows up when alongside Lockyer but they are our best partnership with what we have at present. Nothing rubbish there. How about putting forward your ideas instead of stating mine as rubbish and then telling me I am entitled to my view. I believe menayese got a very nasty injury in his last game on loan at swindon. Could well still be unfit though with dc"s policy on injuries its hard to be certain. I think dc will be reluctant to select broadbent again after saturdays disaster.
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Post by spiess1 on Jul 31, 2018 15:47:34 GMT
berhill4, Why should Mayanese not be a better option in the long term, I have seen Broadbent many times and whenever he comes up against a good player he is torn apart and doesn't dominate on crosses. Craig dominates but isn't tall enough which shows up when alongside Lockyer but they are our best partnership with what we have at present. Nothing rubbish there. How about putting forward your ideas instead of stating mine as rubbish and then telling me I am entitled to my view. Read the post, you bang on about size and a more likely option have you met then both? And then you go on to say you have not seen much of him, My view is that he should have left Craig in the middle on Saturday as he got torn apart in the first half and instead put Broadbent at left back where he has the freedom to bring the ball out rather than just hump it. And with regards to Saturday do tell apart from Upson and Williams who did play well as you would appear to be the better judge than most on here and that's my view. Williams had a quiet game, I thought.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jul 31, 2018 16:41:20 GMT
I've been trying to get my neighbours' kids to the football for a while, as they support Arsenal and Chelsea. They went on Saturday, and I thought that would finally kill any chance of them becoming Gas. But I spoke to the 7 year old today, and he said, 'we lost four nil, but that's ok coz now I know that City stinks.'
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Post by berhill4 on Jul 31, 2018 16:43:26 GMT
berhill4, Why should Mayanese not be a better option in the long term, I have seen Broadbent many times and whenever he comes up against a good player he is torn apart and doesn't dominate on crosses. Craig dominates but isn't tall enough which shows up when alongside Lockyer but they are our best partnership with what we have at present. Nothing rubbish there. How about putting forward your ideas instead of stating mine as rubbish and then telling me I am entitled to my view. I believe menayese got a very nasty injury in his last game on loan at swindon. Could well still be unfit though with dc"s policy on injuries its hard to be certain. I think dc will be reluctant to select broadbent again after saturdays disaster. If that's the case expect to see around 9 changes to the team that started on Saturday because they were all as bad as each other !
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2018 19:45:54 GMT
I believe menayese got a very nasty injury in his last game on loan at swindon. Could well still be unfit though with dc"s policy on injuries its hard to be certain. I think dc will be reluctant to select broadbent again after saturdays disaster. If that's the case expect to see around 9 changes to the team that started on Saturday because they were all as bad as each other ! You obviously were not at the game if you think that. Do you think dc will select broadbent on saturday?
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Post by berhill4 on Jul 31, 2018 20:32:08 GMT
If that's the case expect to see around 9 changes to the team that started on Saturday because they were all as bad as each other ! You obviously were not at the game if you think that. Do you think dc will select broadbent on saturday? Oh I was at the game thanks for your concern and I stand by what i say, and No i don't think he will start this weekend but then again I thought he would start like most at Wimbledon away last season! If DC want's to continue with this wing back then sorry but he will have to play with 3 at the back as when continually get caught out at the back as we have no-one that can hold the ball up or put in a decent cross and if by chance we do there is no-one to get on the end of it.
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Post by pirate on Jul 31, 2018 20:36:33 GMT
Berhill4 is either Tom or his father. Look at his posting history and you'll see what I mean.
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