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Post by c4h10 on Jul 31, 2018 20:44:54 GMT
Read the post, you bang on about size and a more likely option have you met then both? And then you go on to say you have not seen much of him, My view is that he should have left Craig in the middle on Saturday as he got torn apart in the first half and instead put Broadbent at left back where he has the freedom to bring the ball out rather than just hump it. And with regards to Saturday do tell apart from Upson and Williams who did play well as you would appear to be the better judge than most on here and that's my view. Williams had a quiet game, I thought. Yep. Hardly noticed him.
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Post by berhill4 on Jul 31, 2018 20:51:55 GMT
Berhill4 is either Tom or his father. Look at his posting history and you'll see what I mean. OR his Brother , sister, mother , or grandparents let's just say I know him and his family where he's been and what he's done to get here !
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2018 20:54:10 GMT
You obviously were not at the game if you think that. Do you think dc will select broadbent on saturday? Oh I was at the game thanks for your concern and I stand by what i say, and No i don't think he will start this weekend but then again I thought he would start like most at Wimbledon away last season! If DC want's to continue with this wing back then sorry but he will have to play with 3 at the back as when continually get caught out at the back as we have no-one that can hold the ball up or put in a decent cross and if by chance we do there is no-one to get on the end of it. We dont play with wing-backs,we play with a back four and both full backs get forward quite a lot like most teams do these days. The manager hasnt played the 3-5-2 system for quite a long time and i hope he dosnt anytime soon. We dont have any outstanding centre-backs so i would prefer we just play 2 of them right now. Lockyer and craig are the best we have but i think the manager might have made a mistake not signing another centre-back.
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Post by pirate on Jul 31, 2018 20:58:42 GMT
Berhill4 is either Tom or his father. Look at his posting history and you'll see what I mean. OR his Brother , sister, mother , or grandparents let's just say I know him and his family where he's been and what he's done to get here ! Fair enough. I've said before It's a remarkable rise stepping up 5 divisions and he's not looked out of place either, regardless of any of the other stuff. If he keeps working hard and listens to his coaches he'll have a long career at this level and maybe even higher. Still think we need another quality option at CB though.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 31, 2018 21:00:24 GMT
The windows aren't closed yet! Having lost Burn and Sweeney if Rollin is going to be out for any length of time it'll be a risk only having 3 CB's particularly if TC as to cover at LB if Kelly's not to the task.
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Post by berhill4 on Jul 31, 2018 21:01:04 GMT
Oh I was at the game thanks for your concern and I stand by what i say, and No i don't think he will start this weekend but then again I thought he would start like most at Wimbledon away last season! If DC want's to continue with this wing back then sorry but he will have to play with 3 at the back as when continually get caught out at the back as we have no-one that can hold the ball up or put in a decent cross and if by chance we do there is no-one to get on the end of it. We dont play with wing-backs,we play with a back four and both full backs get forward quite a lot like most teams do these days. The manager hasnt played the 3-5-2 system for quite a long time and i hope he dosnt anytime soon. We dont have any outstanding centre-backs so i would prefer we just play 2 of them right now. Lockyer and craig are the best we have but i think the manager might have made a mistake not signing another centre-back. That's my point BB that they get forward a lot and when it breaks down we get caught out with one CB covering ! we have Mayo and he he continues to develop the way he has then there will be no need as we also have JC that can cover there, we didn't have that last year due to his injury ! I think the big one will be who comes in up top and can score the goals we are clearly lacking at this tome and have done foe a while now !
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Post by berhill4 on Jul 31, 2018 21:02:47 GMT
The windows aren't closed yet! Having lost Burn and Sweeney if Rollin is going to be out for any length of time it'll be a risk only having 3 CB's particularly if TC as to cover at LB if Kelly's not to the task. Topper I think James Clark would also be used as an option if needed !
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Post by berhill4 on Jul 31, 2018 21:06:59 GMT
OR his Brother , sister, mother , or grandparents let's just say I know him and his family where he's been and what he's done to get here ! Fair enough. I've said before It's a remarkable rise stepping up 5 divisions and he's not looked out of place either, regardless of any of the other stuff. If he keeps working hard and listens to his coaches he'll have a long career at this level and maybe even higher. Still think we need another quality option at CB though. I agree the best thing would be for him to go out on loan for 3 months get some good game time and then go from there ! it's the only way to gain experience as you know DC likes to chop and change you could get MOM and not be in the squad the following week ! as for another CB like I said below I feel JC could do a job if needed !
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jul 31, 2018 21:09:38 GMT
Berhill4 is either Tom or his father. Look at his posting history and you'll see what I mean. OR his Brother , sister, mother , or grandparents let's just say I know him and his family where he's been and what he's done to get here ! As you're not a genuine gashead, though, and admitted your agenda, you should probably think twice about slagging posters off who don't agree with you, or slagging DC off for not playing him, or slagging other players off.
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Post by pirate on Jul 31, 2018 21:13:24 GMT
Fair enough. I've said before It's a remarkable rise stepping up 5 divisions and he's not looked out of place either, regardless of any of the other stuff. If he keeps working hard and listens to his coaches he'll have a long career at this level and maybe even higher. Still think we need another quality option at CB though. I agree the best thing would be for him to go out on loan for 3 months get some good game time and then go from there ! it's the only way to gain experience as you know DC likes to chop and change you could get MOM and not be in the squad the following week ! as for another CB like I said below I feel JC could do a job if needed ! I would have sent Tom out on loan last season and is definitely worth considering this season. I like JC and what he offers with his versatility, but he isn't good enough for me if we want to push for the playoffs.
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Post by berhill4 on Jul 31, 2018 21:16:29 GMT
OR his Brother , sister, mother , or grandparents let's just say I know him and his family where he's been and what he's done to get here ! As you're not a genuine gashead, though, and admitted your agenda, you should probably think twice about slagging posters off who don't agree with you, or slagging DC off for not playing him, or slagging other players off. All about opinions Who have I slagged off maybe as a Mod you should worry about others, this is a healthy discussion where we all have views that vary and as a Paying fan I have just as much right as you do thanks.
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Post by berhill4 on Jul 31, 2018 21:17:48 GMT
I agree the best thing would be for him to go out on loan for 3 months get some good game time and then go from there ! it's the only way to gain experience as you know DC likes to chop and change you could get MOM and not be in the squad the following week ! as for another CB like I said below I feel JC could do a job if needed ! I would have sent Tom out on loan last season and is definitely worth considering this season. I like JC and what he offers with his versatility, but he isn't good enough for me if we want to push for the playoffs. I agree with regards to JC I was on about cover if needed due to an injury or call ups !
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jul 31, 2018 21:18:45 GMT
As you're not a genuine gashead, though, and admitted your agenda, you should probably think twice about slagging posters off who don't agree with you, or slagging DC off for not playing him, or slagging other players off. All about opinions Who have I slagged off maybe as a Mod you should worry about others, this is a healthy discussion where we all have views that vary and as a Paying fan I have just as much right as you do thanks. You've slagged off loads of people who have criticised Tom. I can't be arsed to look through your posts (and the posts on your other accounts) at the moment, though.
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Post by madgas on Jul 31, 2018 21:27:05 GMT
Loaning TB out isn’t an option. He’s got a year, max 2 left on his contract, we’re not giving half that period away.
He’s a good player. Second choice right now, but thats the challenge to him. A ropey friendly happens to us all. I have no worries over the defence or midfield.
We need a second type of player for attack and we’ll be ticking
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 31, 2018 21:38:56 GMT
Loaning TB out isn’t an option. He’s got a year, max 2 left on his contract, we’re not giving half that period away. He’s a good player. Second choice right now, but thats the challenge to him. A ropey friendly happens to us all. I have no worries over the defence or midfield. We need a second type of player for attack and we’ll be ticking He also let Doidge get behind him for the pen v FGR, if he doesn't get real game time/improve soon then he might well be off in January not next summer. I like TB but looking at his Insta posts over the summer you do wonder if he thinks he's made it before he's even really started in the pro game. I assume you're joking when you say you have no worries over defence?
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Post by berhill4 on Jul 31, 2018 21:45:55 GMT
Loaning TB out isn’t an option. He’s got a year, max 2 left on his contract, we’re not giving half that period away. He’s a good player. Second choice right now, but thats the challenge to him. A ropey friendly happens to us all. I have no worries over the defence or midfield. We need a second type of player for attack and we’ll be ticking He also let Doidge get behind him for the pen v FGR, if he doesn't get real game time/improve soon then he might well be off in January not next summer. I like TB but looking at his Insta posts over the summer you do wonder if he thinks he's made it before he's even really started in the pro game. I assume you're joking when you say you have no worries over defence? Was not at the FGR game but would have to agree with you on the rest Topper !
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Post by pirate on Jul 31, 2018 22:15:10 GMT
Loaning TB out isn’t an option. He’s got a year, max 2 left on his contract, we’re not giving half that period away. He’s a good player. Second choice right now, but thats the challenge to him. A ropey friendly happens to us all. I have no worries over the defence or midfield. We need a second type of player for attack and we’ll be ticking I would loan him out for 6 months whatever his contract situation, the game time will do him good and he can iron out the mistakes without it affecting us. If he impresses in the first couple of months we could always sit down and negotiate an extension to his contract. As for the defensive record over the last couple of seasons, last year we had the 7th worst defensive record in the division and the previous season we conceded the same amount or more than three relegated sides.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Aug 1, 2018 0:56:46 GMT
He also let Doidge get behind him for the pen v FGR, if he doesn't get real game time/improve soon then he might well be off in January not next summer. I like TB but looking at his Insta posts over the summer you do wonder if he thinks he's made it before he's even really started in the pro game. I assume you're joking when you say you have no worries over defence? Was not at the FGR game but would have to agree with you on the rest Topper ! Might this go some way to explaining why he didn’t Play at Wimbledon? I think he does need to keep his feet on the ground, but he has enormous potential and i’m surprised at how quickly people are to write him off based on a couple of dodgy performances. It’s bound to be a steep learning curve for one so inexperienced in league football but I hope he gets plenty of game time for us this season.
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Post by madgas on Aug 1, 2018 6:46:58 GMT
Loaning TB out isn’t an option. He’s got a year, max 2 left on his contract, we’re not giving half that period away. He’s a good player. Second choice right now, but thats the challenge to him. A ropey friendly happens to us all. I have no worries over the defence or midfield. We need a second type of player for attack and we’ll be ticking He also let Doidge get behind him for the pen v FGR, if he doesn't get real game time/improve soon then he might well be off in January not next summer. I like TB but looking at his Insta posts over the summer you do wonder if he thinks he's made it before he's even really started in the pro game. I assume you're joking when you say you have no worries over defence? Instagram is not relevant. They are given a summer off to take it off. I have no worries over the defence. I see Upson helping out a lot in this respect. I also saw steady improvement over the last few months. Scoring first is the issue, last season we had a very poor chance conversion rate. Took close to 10 attempts for each goal.
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Post by madgas on Aug 1, 2018 6:51:48 GMT
Loaning TB out isn’t an option. He’s got a year, max 2 left on his contract, we’re not giving half that period away. He’s a good player. Second choice right now, but thats the challenge to him. A ropey friendly happens to us all. I have no worries over the defence or midfield. We need a second type of player for attack and we’ll be ticking I would loan him out for 6 months whatever his contract situation, the game time will do him good and he can iron out the mistakes without it affecting us. If he impresses in the first couple of months we could always sit down and negotiate an extension to his contract. As for the defensive record over the last couple of seasons, last year we had the 7th worst defensive record in the division and the previous season we conceded the same amount or more than three relegated sides. We have a budget. We can’t loan a player out for 6 months because they’d need covering. Getting in a CB as good or better would use up resources. He’s decent, he’s getting better. The mistakes exist, but a loan isn’t necessarily going to magically iron those out.
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