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Post by newmarketgas on Jul 31, 2018 19:57:02 GMT
Not connected with law enforcement in any way and never have been and don’t intend to be neither. You? Nope, just curious, as you have a strange one on your forum.
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Post by mehewmagic on Jul 31, 2018 20:00:33 GMT
Yes, but reading the rest of the article makes you think he wants to stay and fight. Also wants champ football. Even if we got him it would be a risk as he's not getting what he really wants and is miles from home.
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Post by c4h10 on Jul 31, 2018 20:05:06 GMT
It was said earlier in this thread that there was no reason to expect the owners to put their own money into the signing of players. I feel that there is a moral right - no, that's a bit strong - a justifiable expectation, that the money received for a player who was already contracted to the club when they bought it should be re-invested in a replacement(s). Otherwise, we have quite the reverse of Evolution. Some of it maybe, but monies received has to go back into the club to benefit it all round and distributed according
it may be a different scale, but it applies at all levels. How many times/years did you hear at Arsenal that they couldn't match Man U or Chelsea as they had to pay for the stadium? The magic fairies didn't build it for free and Usmanov and Kroenke didn't pony up there own personal cash.
Man U have to service debt, Spurs, Liverpool whatever the ridiculous sums of revenue they generate or receive
So, thank goodness we sold Ellis! How long does that give us before the bailiffs arrive, and who shall we flog next in order to keep going? I was disappointed to see Ellis go, but expected the money received to be re-invested in a replacement. Or, did we go out of our way to advertise his availability in order to raise necessary funds? I could follow your argument better if you can tell me how clubs with crowds of three or four thousand manage to survive.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2018 20:18:18 GMT
The position is that the ALQs never said that they were going to spend large sums on players, Lansdown on the other hand, did. Not sure I’ve ever read or heard Lansdown state he / City were going to spend large sums on players In fact, I think City’s record signing is £5m. Pretty small amount in this day For Championship players Mr lansdown has written off at least £100m of debt during his tenure. The comedy waste of money during the steve coppell reign and the huge outlay on the ground is hardly modest spending. Bristol city and brentford for example are no different to plymouth,luton or portsmouth except for their sugar daddy owners.
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Post by neighbour on Jul 31, 2018 20:21:52 GMT
Not connected with law enforcement in any way and never have been and don’t intend to be neither. You? Nope, just curious, as you have a strange one on your forum. No comment on that one Anyhow, I’m off to bed now as am leaving for the airport at 3am for an early flight for my hols. Shame to miss our opener against Forest but plenty more games after that Enjoy Saturday. At least up until kick off anyway
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2018 20:23:32 GMT
Not sure I’ve ever read or heard Lansdown state he / City were going to spend large sums on players In fact, I think City’s record signing is £5m. Pretty small amount in this day For Championship players Mr lansdown has written off at least £100m of debt during his tenure. The comedy waste of money during the steve coppell reign and the huge outlay on the ground is hardly modest spending. Bristol city and brentford for example are no different to plymouth,luton or portsmouth except for their sugar daddy owners. Jealousy BB gets you nowhere,give us a SL any day.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 31, 2018 20:26:11 GMT
Mr lansdown has written off at least £100m of debt during his tenure. The comedy waste of money during the steve coppell reign and the huge outlay on the ground is hardly modest spending. Bristol city and brentford for example are no different to plymouth,luton or portsmouth except for their sugar daddy owners. Jealousy BB gets you nowhere,give us a SL any day. The rosy faced twat is every football fans wet dream. Jizzed away millions on his play thing. Most clubs outside the Prem (and some in it) would love him as an owner.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2018 20:28:54 GMT
Jealousy BB gets you nowhere,give us a SL any day. The rosy faced twat is every football fans wet dream. Jizzed away millions on his play thing. Most clubs outside the Prem (and some in it) would love him as an owner. I don’t like him just his money 💴💰
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2018 20:30:03 GMT
Mr lansdown has written off at least £100m of debt during his tenure. The comedy waste of money during the steve coppell reign and the huge outlay on the ground is hardly modest spending. Bristol city and brentford for example are no different to plymouth,luton or portsmouth except for their sugar daddy owners. Jealousy BB gets you nowhere,give us a SL any day. Yes because at the end of the day hes delivered a good modern stadium and a championship football team. But nobody should pretend hes done it with modest spending because thats not true.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 31, 2018 20:32:23 GMT
Jealousy BB gets you nowhere,give us a SL any day. Yes because at the end of the day hes delivered a good modern stadium and a championship football team. But nobody should pretend hes done it with modest spending because thats not true. He didn't deliver a Championship team, they were there when he took over.
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Post by axegas on Jul 31, 2018 20:32:40 GMT
Yes, but reading the rest of the article makes you think he wants to stay and fight. Also wants champ football. Even if we got him it would be a risk as he's not getting what he really wants and is miles from home. Most transfers are a risk, perhaps Nutall will be persuaded that his best chance of nailing down a spot in the first team is to get game time under his belt on loan, that's how it seems to work with most youngsters. Sounds like he is not in Mowbrays immediate plans if he is advocating a loan move for him, so he is probably best looking at the bigger picture and try to get into his managers thoughts by impressig out on loan with us.
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Post by peterparker on Jul 31, 2018 20:33:25 GMT
Some of it maybe, but monies received has to go back into the club to benefit it all round and distributed according
it may be a different scale, but it applies at all levels. How many times/years did you hear at Arsenal that they couldn't match Man U or Chelsea as they had to pay for the stadium? The magic fairies didn't build it for free and Usmanov and Kroenke didn't pony up there own personal cash.
Man U have to service debt, Spurs, Liverpool whatever the ridiculous sums of revenue they generate or receive
So, thank goodness we sold Ellis! How long does that give us before the bailiffs arrive, and who shall we flog next in order to keep going? I was disappointed to see Ellis go, but expected the money received to be re-invested in a replacement. Or, did we go out of our way to advertise his availability in order to raise necessary funds? I could follow your argument better if you can tell me how clubs with crowds of three or four thousand manage to survive. Every club is different. Different overheads, different owners, different wage structures. Fleetwood have an owner who rents and runs one of his companies from tbe stadium thus increasing turnover. As DC has said other clubs have owners make ad hoc cash injections Im Just saying the club loses money for whatever reason, and this is covered by a mixture of owners funds and extraordinary income. Just becuase you sell a player for x doesnt mean x will or has to go back into the team lincoln.vitalfootball.co.uk/football-finances-and-infrastructure-whither-lincoln-city/
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Post by c4h10 on Jul 31, 2018 20:34:09 GMT
Yes because at the end of the day hes delivered a good modern stadium and a championship football team. But nobody should pretend hes done it with modest spending because thats not true. He didn't deliver a Championship team, they were there when he took over. Ah! Plus ca change.
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Post by neighbour on Jul 31, 2018 20:37:43 GMT
Not sure I’ve ever read or heard Lansdown state he / City were going to spend large sums on players In fact, I think City’s record signing is £5m. Pretty small amount in this day For Championship players Mr lansdown has written off at least £100m of debt during his tenure. The comedy waste of money during the steve coppell reign and the huge outlay on the ground is hardly modest spending. Bristol city and brentford for example are no different to plymouth,luton or portsmouth except for their sugar daddy owners. Yet when WAQ first arrived on the seen, social media was awash with many (not all) Rovers fans rubbing their hands at the arrival of their own sugar daddy Remember the video “unlucky the sh1t, premier league in 5 years”. “6th richest club in England” I understood the excitement but don’t slate SL when he’s exactly the kind of owner you’d love to have
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2018 20:40:12 GMT
Jealousy BB gets you nowhere,give us a SL any day. Yes because at the end of the day hes delivered a good modern stadium and a championship football team. But nobody should pretend hes done it with modest spending because thats not true. They had a good return on transfers and lots of clubs in the championship have spent bigger than them. Its modest for the championship
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2018 20:41:31 GMT
Yes because at the end of the day hes delivered a good modern stadium and a championship football team. But nobody should pretend hes done it with modest spending because thats not true. He didn't deliver a Championship team, they were there when he took over. I should have said hes delivered a championship club with the potential to stay there and a realistic prospect to get into the premier league in the near future. Hopefully that will turn to crap despite his money and they will get relegated instead.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2018 20:42:35 GMT
Mr lansdown has written off at least £100m of debt during his tenure. The comedy waste of money during the steve coppell reign and the huge outlay on the ground is hardly modest spending. Bristol city and brentford for example are no different to plymouth,luton or portsmouth except for their sugar daddy owners. Yet when WAQ first arrived on the seen, social media was awash with many (not all) Rovers fans rubbing their hands at the arrival of their own sugar daddy Remember the video “unlucky the sh1t, premier league in 5 years”. “6th richest club in England” I understood the excitement but don’t slate SL when he’s exactly the kind of owner you’d love to have Thought you were going to bed? Have a nice holiday 😎
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2018 20:44:09 GMT
Yes because at the end of the day hes delivered a good modern stadium and a championship football team. But nobody should pretend hes done it with modest spending because thats not true. They had a good return on transfers and lots of clubs in the championship have spent bigger than them. Its modest for the championship Its not just about transfers though is it? its a club that loses large amounts of money every season artificially propped up by their owner. Same as many want for rovers of course.
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Post by brightonpirate on Jul 31, 2018 20:45:28 GMT
Just read DC's comments on infrastructure and budget. My God - is he covering his tail or what??? I was a bit optimistic with the new signings already made (notwithstanding the dire need for a striker of quality). But he seems so down and pessimistic. What a way for a manager to start a new season. Very sad - such a great metropolis, but a poor state of affairs as far as the Rovers are concerned. Hope I'm wrong
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2018 20:48:19 GMT
They had a good return on transfers and lots of clubs in the championship have spent bigger than them. Its modest for the championship Its not just about transfers though is it? its a club that loses large amounts of money every season artificially propped up by their owner. Same as many want for rovers of course. I always wonder what would happen if he popped his clogs would the family still want to fund the club.
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