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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 30, 2018 20:53:33 GMT
I know a few weeks ago we close to getting a young lad from Man City on loan who is very highly rated. Sorry don’t know his name . Just thought I’d say..... no more info in case anyone asks. I heard we were in for a lad called Rabbi Matondo from them back in January. Highly-rated winger. Well DC does like to pull rabbits out of hats! |
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Post by Rovers 12th Man on Jul 30, 2018 20:55:15 GMT
Regarding Harrison, DC said he only had a year left on his deal and he wanted to test himself in the Championship so let him go whilst we could still get some money for him.
Regarding Telford, DC said he is a natural finisher but not a hard worker, fitness levels weren’t quite there and he can only play in a front 2 so doesn’t fit in with our formations. Felt Reilly was an all round better player.
And regarding Nichols, DC said he has to start proving himself or he’ll be looking to get rid.
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Post by aforce on Jul 30, 2018 20:56:28 GMT
If all he says is true then those figures are crazy. No way is Doidge or Stockley worth that nor Bogle worth £10k. B***** me the football world is a crazy place. With only a few strikers at the moment it’s probably not the right time to say this but I’m glad that Rovers aren’t going to pay silly money or wages to destroy the squad ethos. Loans sound a bit more hopeful again if true. But if all this is so go to the lower leagues and get some younger, hungry players who to quote DC (tonight) “have the desire and are fit”. UTG! Absolutely right. Whether we like it or not, we cannot go spending stupid money like that when we're losing so much each year. It would also destroy everything DC has built up to smash a wage structure if these figures are correct. DC knows this - it's not a 'him against the board' thing here. I'd be perfectly happy if we didn't buy anyone but got two decent season long loans in. In fact, until there is a better and realistic option, it makes sense. All we seem to hear though is that Wael (or the family) should put the money in himself. Why should he? Christ, there's some here moaning about paying £4 or whatever it is for a beer but expecting the Al Qadis to donate £750k for one player! We are not bankrolled by a Stephen Lansdown so must cut our cloth accordingly. Hardly donating you fool it’s what we have just received for a player |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2018 20:57:38 GMT
Absolutely right. Whether we like it or not, we cannot go spending stupid money like that when we're losing so much each year. It would also destroy everything DC has built up to smash a wage structure if these figures are correct. DC knows this - it's not a 'him against the board' thing here. I'd be perfectly happy if we didn't buy anyone but got two decent season long loans in. In fact, until there is a better and realistic option, it makes sense. All we seem to hear though is that Wael (or the family) should put the money in himself. Why should he? Christ, there's some here moaning about paying £4 or whatever it is for a beer but expecting the Al Qadis to donate £750k for one player! We are not bankrolled by a Stephen Lansdown so must cut our cloth accordingly. What's so strange about asking a wealthy football club owner to spend some money? Nothing at all, but there has to be a limit. I have no idea what the limit is or should be. None of us have. But it's true that in the last few months they habe provided funds. A new pitch, coaching and backroom staff (not just suits, but staff DC probably wants too) as well as Mensah, Craig, Bennett, Rodman, all of which either involved a fee or relatively decent wages you would think. Yes, we've pocketed money for Billy and Ellis too, but bottom line is we are still losing big money every year. I wish we could spend more but then again I wish I could afford a Porsche. I can't, so I drive what I can afford. |
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Post by Rovers 12th Man on Jul 30, 2018 20:57:42 GMT
DC also challenged me to name a number 9 and he will tell me about him hence the players I mentioned in the first post.
Interestingly, Nuttall was the only name he bought up himself which makes me think he maybe closer.
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Post by warehamgas on Jul 30, 2018 20:58:02 GMT
If all he says is true then those figures are crazy. No way is Doidge or Stockley worth that nor Bogle worth £10k. B***** me the football world is a crazy place. With only a few strikers at the moment it’s probably not the right time to say this but I’m glad that Rovers aren’t going to pay silly money or wages to destroy the squad ethos. Loans sound a bit more hopeful again if true. But if all this is so go to the lower leagues and get some younger, hungry players who to quote DC (tonight) “have the desire and are fit”. UTG! Absolutely right. Whether we like it or not, we cannot go spending stupid money like that when we're losing so much each year. It would also destroy everything DC has built up to smash a wage structure if these figures are correct. DC knows this - it's not a 'him against the board' thing here. I'd be perfectly happy if we didn't buy anyone but got two decent season long loans in. In fact, until there is a better and realistic option, it makes sense. All we seem to hear though is that Wael (or the family) should put the money in himself. Why should he? Christ, there's some here moaning about paying £4 or whatever it is for a beer but expecting the Al Qadis to donate £750k for one player!
We are not bankrolled by a Stephen Lansdown so must cut our cloth accordingly. Spot on 1970. Yes, hadn’t made that comparison myself but it’s a good one to make. UTG! |
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Post by RD on Jul 30, 2018 20:58:48 GMT
Regarding Harrison, DC said he only had a year left on his deal and he wanted to test himself in the Championship so let him go whilst we could still get some money for him. Regarding Telford, DC said he is a natural finisher but not a hard worker, fitness levels weren’t quite there and he can only play in a front 2 so doesn’t fit in with our formations. Felt Reilly was an all round better player. And regarding Nichols, DC said he has to start proving himself or he’ll be looking to get rid. #ITK |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 30, 2018 20:58:55 GMT
Regarding Harrison, DC said he only had a year left on his deal and he wanted to test himself in the Championship so let him go whilst we could still get some money for him. Regarding Telford, DC said he is a natural finisher but not a hard worker, fitness levels weren’t quite there and he can only play in a front 2 so doesn’t fit in with our formations. Felt Reilly was an all round better player. And regarding Nichols, DC said he has to start proving himself or he’ll be looking to get rid. I like Telford but that makes sense and I said in another thread, he probably doesn't suit the modern game with most formations as they are. Telford is your typical big man, little man striker and I feel he will revel in that but didn't seem very adaptable. I liked the look of Reilly on Saturday. With DC's tight budget I can understand. My worry is Telford will do well and Bury will make a bit of money. |
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Post by pirate on Jul 30, 2018 21:01:10 GMT
The game is crazy. Look at Salford paying a couple of players £4,000 per week in the National League. I was personally speaking to a manager in the National League South during the past week who was frustrated about not being able to compete for players at that level because some are being offered £900 a week and claimed there are even some already earning over £1,000. £900 or £1,000 per week for playing part-time football in the 6th tier! Blimey pirate those figures are even more crazy. So are these clubs trying to do a “Salford”, or Fleetwood, or even rich wannabes like the guy at Billericay? There are only 92 league places so are these clubs trying to buy the dream? I wonder how many of these are sustainable “professional” clubs or whether they will not be able to sustain it or even want to. The examples of Colne FC from the 90s, Telford from the early 00s or even Rushden and D spring to my mind. They were in smaller places which weren’t able to sustain the club. Salford, I suspect, might be able to sustain it. High profile owners who are looking to develop other income streams in a rapidly growing, economically vibrant area mean they have a good chance of making it a success. Thanks for posting that. UTG! Even crazier was roughly about 4 or 5 years ago I was told that Stefan Moore (ex Aston Villa) was being paid close to £2,000 per week at a Southern League club and even pocketed a small fraction of the gate receipts. His goal record at that level was outstanding, but bloody hell. Bonkers! |
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Post by pirate on Jul 30, 2018 21:02:24 GMT
DC also challenged me to name a number 9 and he will tell me about him hence the players I mentioned in the first post. Interestingly, Nuttall was the only name he bought up himself which makes me think he maybe closer. He mentioned Nuttall when we played Blackburn last season and it was obvious he likes him. |
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Post by gaelgas on Jul 30, 2018 21:05:42 GMT
Blimey pirate those figures are even more crazy. So are these clubs trying to do a “Salford”, or Fleetwood, or even rich wannabes like the guy at Billericay? There are only 92 league places so are these clubs trying to buy the dream? I wonder how many of these are sustainable “professional” clubs or whether they will not be able to sustain it or even want to. The examples of Colne FC from the 90s, Telford from the early 00s or even Rushden and D spring to my mind. They were in smaller places which weren’t able to sustain the club. Salford, I suspect, might be able to sustain it. High profile owners who are looking to develop other income streams in a rapidly growing, economically vibrant area mean they have a good chance of making it a success. Thanks for posting that. UTG! Even crazier was roughly about 4 or 5 years ago I was told that Stefan Moore (ex Aston Villa) was being paid close to £2,000 per week at a Southern League club and even pocketed a small fraction of the gate receipts. He goal record at that level was outstanding, but bloody hell. Bonkers! So much for FFP, I'm sure all of this is 'legal' in the eyes of the authorities but it sounds like something needs to be done for the good of football, at every level wages should be capped at a percentage of gate income or something similar. |
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Post by gonzales on Jul 30, 2018 21:05:59 GMT
Even crazier was roughly about 4 or 5 years ago I was told that Stefan Moore (ex Aston Villa) was being paid close to £2,000 per week at a Southern League club and even pocketed a small fraction of the gate receipts. His goal record at that level was outstanding, but bloody hell. Bonkers! The new definition of Mercenary in the next edition of the Oxford dictionary. Crikey, taking a percentage of gate receipts from a southern league club is pretty grim. |
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Post by tylerdunnell03 on Jul 30, 2018 21:07:36 GMT
DC also challenged me to name a number 9 and he will tell me about him hence the players I mentioned in the first post. Interestingly, Nuttall was the only name he bought up himself which makes me think he maybe closer. Did he say anything about getting a striker in before Saturday? |
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Post by yattongas on Jul 30, 2018 21:08:50 GMT
I know a few weeks ago we close to getting a young lad from Man City on loan who is very highly rated. Sorry don’t know his name . Just thought I’d say..... no more info in case anyone asks. I heard we were in for a lad called Rabbi Matondo from them back in January. Highly-rated winger. Yes that’s the guy ..... he’s from Cardiff I think . |
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Post by gashead1981 on Jul 30, 2018 21:09:29 GMT
Good work! Devante Cole and Joe Nuttall would certainly be big upgrades to our attack, but I can only imagine the (understandable) anger if we sell our best striker for £750k+ and then bring in two loans... Depends, could be loan contract with a view to a permanent signing at the end so no matter how good a season he has he is going to be our player. Just get the boys in the front door and sort out the permanents in Jan or at the end of the season. Might be all we can do at this late stage. Personally I don't see why Wael can't show his hand and use the Harrison money and top it up to get in 2 strikers. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2018 21:09:55 GMT
Absolutely right. Whether we like it or not, we cannot go spending stupid money like that when we're losing so much each year. It would also destroy everything DC has built up to smash a wage structure if these figures are correct. DC knows this - it's not a 'him against the board' thing here. I'd be perfectly happy if we didn't buy anyone but got two decent season long loans in. In fact, until there is a better and realistic option, it makes sense. All we seem to hear though is that Wael (or the family) should put the money in himself. Why should he? Christ, there's some here moaning about paying £4 or whatever it is for a beer but expecting the Al Qadis to donate £750k for one player! We are not bankrolled by a Stephen Lansdown so must cut our cloth accordingly. Hardly donating you fool it’s what we have just received for a player Ok, poor choice of word. But the principle remains that when we are losing so much every year, it's unrealistic to expect that all transfer money received will be spent. It never has been and probably never will be. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Jul 30, 2018 21:12:25 GMT
Even crazier was roughly about 4 or 5 years ago I was told that Stefan Moore (ex Aston Villa) was being paid close to £2,000 per week at a Southern League club and even pocketed a small fraction of the gate receipts. He goal record at that level was outstanding, but bloody hell. Bonkers! So much for FFP, I'm sure all of this is 'legal' in the eyes of the authorities but it sounds like something needs to be done for the good of football, at every level wages should be capped at a percentage of gate income or something similar. A good few years back when the english ice hockey "Superleague" was introduced it came with a salary cap. To get the best Canadian and Russian talent in the wives and partners were employed as secretaries and cleaners on big money paid for by the ice rinks and not the club. It quickly became one of the best leagues in Europe for all of 3 seasons when about every club and rink went bankrupt. There are ways around FFP if you are willing to loophole I suppose. |
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Post by Forestgas7 on Jul 30, 2018 21:12:45 GMT
Will be very disappointed with loans as we have had plenty time to replace Gaffney. If the 2 loan players have good spell then we will have no chance to sign them on a permanent. Back to square 1 again for next season. wael needs to back dc now
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Post by pirate on Jul 30, 2018 21:13:39 GMT
I heard we were in for a lad called Rabbi Matondo from them back in January. Highly-rated winger. Yes that’s the guy ..... he’s from Cardiff I think . They signed him from Cardiff. A very good prospect. Only 17 still I think, but already played for the Wales U21s. |
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Post by gaelgas on Jul 30, 2018 21:15:47 GMT
So much for FFP, I'm sure all of this is 'legal' in the eyes of the authorities but it sounds like something needs to be done for the good of football, at every level wages should be capped at a percentage of gate income or something similar. A good few years back when the english ice hockey "Superleague" was introduced it came with a salary cap. To get the best Canadian and Russian talent in the wives and partners were employed as secretaries and cleaners on big money paid for by the ice rinks and not the club. It quickly became one of the best leagues in Europe for all of 3 seasons when about every club and rink went bankrupt. There are ways around FFP if you are willing to loophole I suppose. Yep I guess the challenge is to try and close those loopholes. |
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