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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 11:51:02 GMT
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Post by baggins on Aug 13, 2018 11:55:04 GMT
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Post by geddongas on Aug 13, 2018 12:01:55 GMT
This all sounds like really depressing news, if i’m honest. Wael selling up to a consortium that are probably in it purely for business, building a stadium that would almost certainly remain (for the majority) property of UWE and the moneygrabbers at the top of that food chain. The kind of people who charge 9 grand a year for a course you have to then pay to attend your own graduation.
I’ve never liked the idea of building a stadium we’d not fully own. Always at the mercy of someone else. This is what a lot of people on this forum definitely don’t want, but demand the money be thrown around.
I wouldn’t trust any of it. And I fear that the historically spirited, fanbase-centric club we support could turn into another corporate mess.
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Post by station on Aug 13, 2018 12:17:03 GMT
Depressing No!! - and probably if true, the only chance this club has of ever moving forward. When Wael & Co. took over we all believed [at first] that the golden age of Bristol Rovers had at long last arrived - and THUMP!! Ugh, not what we expected.
To stay as we are - chirpy Chappie local club, great - but it will not breed or bring success, serious money is required - even if Wael remains, he needs serious outside investment because the family purse strings are firmly closed.
There is the Dyson theory, the Asian theory and the who knows what theory, and as always, ill believe it when I see it, and sat in it.
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Post by geddongas on Aug 13, 2018 12:25:34 GMT
Depressing No!! - and probably if true, the only chance this club has of ever moving forward. When Wael & Co. took over we all believed [at first] that the golden age of Bristol Rovers had at long last arrived - and THUMP!! Ugh, not what we expected. To stay as we are - chirpy Chappie local club, great - but it will not breed or bring success, serious money is required - even if Wael remains, he needs serious outside investment because the family purse strings are firmly closed. There is the Dyson theory, the Asian theory and the who knows what theory, and as always, ill believe it when I see it, and sat in it. The price of success I suppose. Just wish the investment was supposed to be coming from someone genuinely interested in football.
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Post by baggins on Aug 13, 2018 12:30:41 GMT
This all sounds like really depressing news, if i’m honest. Wael selling up to a consortium that are probably in it purely for business, building a stadium that would almost certainly remain (for the majority) property of UWE and the moneygrabbers at the top of that food chain. The kind of people who charge 9 grand a year for a course you have to then pay to attend your own graduation. I’ve never liked the idea of building a stadium we’d not fully own. Always at the mercy of someone else. This is what a lot of people on this forum definitely don’t want, but demand the money be thrown around. I wouldn’t trust any of it. And I fear that the historically spirited, fanbase-centric club we support could turn into another corporate mess. It's not news, it's a rumour. Another sodding rumour. Put about by a journalist.
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Post by baggins on Aug 13, 2018 12:32:22 GMT
Depressing No!! - and probably if true, the only chance this club has of ever moving forward. When Wael & Co. took over we all believed [at first] that the golden age of Bristol Rovers had at long last arrived - and THUMP!! Ugh, not what we expected. To stay as we are - chirpy Chappie local club, great - but it will not breed or bring success, serious money is required - even if Wael remains, he needs serious outside investment because the family purse strings are firmly closed. There is the Dyson theory, the Asian theory and the who knows what theory, and as always, ill believe it when I see it, and sat in it. Where are you getting 'purse strings are firmly closed' from?
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Post by dinsdale on Aug 13, 2018 12:39:21 GMT
Im not an insider and my source is a gashead (ex work colleague) connected to a football club where an ex director is heavilly involved. I used to hear everything that was going on under the last regime as certain board members were loose with their information. Until the weekend i had not heard a peep out of him for two years.
Anyway he is adamant UWE is potentially back on. Mixed feelings from him as we wont fully own it but will be peppercorn rent. This info has been leaked by people at uwe to ex directors.
No idea where the chinese consortium thing has come from.
I have also heard for 12 months from another source (less reliable as about 3rd hand) that Duane have wanted out for some time. Thats pretty bloody obvious to be fair.
I believe there may be some discussions over UWE based on the Ware/Jelf model of selling the mem for housing to finance a scaled down UWE with peppercorn ground rent.
Lets see what happens and not assume a change will have to be a bad thing. There is no future at the mem
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Post by geddongas on Aug 13, 2018 12:41:06 GMT
Depressing No!! - and probably if true, the only chance this club has of ever moving forward. When Wael & Co. took over we all believed [at first] that the golden age of Bristol Rovers had at long last arrived - and THUMP!! Ugh, not what we expected. To stay as we are - chirpy Chappie local club, great - but it will not breed or bring success, serious money is required - even if Wael remains, he needs serious outside investment because the family purse strings are firmly closed. There is the Dyson theory, the Asian theory and the who knows what theory, and as always, ill believe it when I see it, and sat in it. Where are you getting 'purse strings are firmly closed' from? Aye, the pitch resurfacing cost £300k apparently. People wonder where the money from our transfers went, but we spent a fair amount of it when you look at everything not just transfers
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 13, 2018 12:42:06 GMT
Or...someone is getting 'Chinese' mixed up with 'Malaysian'.......YTL, the company that own Wessex Water, the Bath Hotel & Spa, and the ones behind the building of the Bristol Arena at Filton? They seem to like it in the Bristol area? Ahh that would account for Wael's flight coming in from Kuala Lumpur.... Queen Alia International Airport
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Post by baggins on Aug 13, 2018 12:45:23 GMT
Where are you getting 'purse strings are firmly closed' from? Aye, the pitch resurfacing cost £300k apparently. People wonder where the money from our transfers went, but we spent a fair amount of it when you look at everything not just transfers Exactly. Plus wages for what, 4, 5 new players? How much did the new ticket system cost? The bar re-vamp? There's Ellis's fee gone right there.
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Post by CheshireGas on Aug 13, 2018 12:48:03 GMT
I guess that will be the final nail in the coffin of the "club" we knew if that happens. We end up being just the plaything of a real estate tycoon who probably hardly knows where Bristol is. The price of "progress" I guess. I must admit listening to some of the ranting and raving that goes on on this forum by the fans who moan about 'plastic' clubs, and Lansdown's millions failing to get Premiersh!t football down BS3, and then moaning that we haven't got an owner that er throws millions around like Lansdown...... I sometimes wish we could get a billionaire owner that rips the soul out of the club so they could see what its like. Suppose its no longer a club for us supporters of 50 years who are glad of the improvements having been through some pretty dire years. As you say Oldie the price of progress....
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Post by Severncider on Aug 13, 2018 12:48:19 GMT
Really, can you point me to where I said that, because even I do not know when anything may/will be announced. Why don't you ask Wael? August 11 at 0629 hours on Wael post You could have quoted what I actually said. " Hopefully all will be revealed by Wael before today's match." He didn't, but he gave an almighty big hint.
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Post by baggins on Aug 13, 2018 12:50:32 GMT
I guess that will be the final nail in the coffin of the "club" we knew if that happens. We end up being just the plaything of a real estate tycoon who probably hardly knows where Bristol is. The price of "progress" I guess. I must admit listening to some of the ranting and raving that goes on on this forum by the fans who moan about 'plastic' clubs, and Lansdown's millions failing to get Premiersh!t football down BS3, and then moaning that we haven't got an owner that er throws millions around like Lansdown...... I sometimes wish we could get a billionaire owner that rips the soul out of the club so they could see what its like. Suppose its no longer a club for us supporters of 50 years who are glad of the improvements having been through some pretty dire years. As you say Oldie the price of progress.... We're still here. That's it for me.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 13, 2018 12:58:35 GMT
This all sounds like really depressing news, if i’m honest. Wael selling up to a consortium that are probably in it purely for business, building a stadium that would almost certainly remain (for the majority) property of UWE and the moneygrabbers at the top of that food chain. The kind of people who charge 9 grand a year for a course you have to then pay to attend your own graduation. I’ve never liked the idea of building a stadium we’d not fully own. Always at the mercy of someone else. This is what a lot of people on this forum definitely don’t want, but demand the money be thrown around. I wouldn’t trust any of it. And I fear that the historically spirited, fanbase-centric club we support could turn into another corporate mess. I sense most posters want the chance to progress but whilst we're stuck at the dilapidated Mem we've only going to slowly die, even putting up 2 (or is it 3?) temp stands etc this summer seems to have been a massive task for the owners to undertake, there's also the new elephant in the room now of City forever progressing and leaving us even further behind. It seems we either gamble with outside investment or become some kind of family friendly community club which is forever stuck in the lower leagues. although with the £10m/15m debts already run up we may have already gone beyond that anyway.
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Post by baggins on Aug 13, 2018 13:04:55 GMT
This all sounds like really depressing news, if i’m honest. Wael selling up to a consortium that are probably in it purely for business, building a stadium that would almost certainly remain (for the majority) property of UWE and the moneygrabbers at the top of that food chain. The kind of people who charge 9 grand a year for a course you have to then pay to attend your own graduation. I’ve never liked the idea of building a stadium we’d not fully own. Always at the mercy of someone else. This is what a lot of people on this forum definitely don’t want, but demand the money be thrown around. I wouldn’t trust any of it. And I fear that the historically spirited, fanbase-centric club we support could turn into another corporate mess. I sense most posters want the chance to progress but whilst we're stuck at the dilapidated Mem we've only going to slowly die, even putting up 2 (or is it 3?) temp stands etc this summer seems to have been a massive task for the owners to undertake, there's also the new elephant in the room now of City forever progressing and leaving us even further behind. It seems we either gamble with outside investment or become some kind of family friendly community club which is forever stuck in the lower leagues. although with the £10m/15m debts already run up we may have already gone beyond that anyway. What?
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Post by geddongas on Aug 13, 2018 13:06:55 GMT
This all sounds like really depressing news, if i’m honest. Wael selling up to a consortium that are probably in it purely for business, building a stadium that would almost certainly remain (for the majority) property of UWE and the moneygrabbers at the top of that food chain. The kind of people who charge 9 grand a year for a course you have to then pay to attend your own graduation. I’ve never liked the idea of building a stadium we’d not fully own. Always at the mercy of someone else. This is what a lot of people on this forum definitely don’t want, but demand the money be thrown around. I wouldn’t trust any of it. And I fear that the historically spirited, fanbase-centric club we support could turn into another corporate mess. I sense most posters want the chance to progress but whilst we're stuck at the dilapidated Mem we've only going to slowly die, even putting up 2 (or is it 3?) temp stands etc this summer seems to have been a massive task for the owners to undertake, there's also the new elephant in the room now of City forever progressing and leaving us even further behind. It seems we either gamble with outside investment or become some kind of family friendly community club which is forever stuck in the lower leagues. although with the £10m/15m debts already run up we may have already gone beyond that anyway. I agree it’s a tall order, and I want the club to succeed don’t get me wrong (we’ve had enough dire times) but my point is that the money that would come in should come in for the right reasons. The UWE stadium, in my opinion, isn’t a really sustainable option. We could rent it but it’d never be ours. Hitting a rough patch without a stadium to mark up the debt against? I’m no businessman but from what’s happened before i’d be worried about the longevity of that move too. Doubt the university would be particularly loyal to us if we were to default on any payments, they quite literally have money to burn. I’m not able to offer a solution sadly, but I really don’t trust any deal over the UWE stadium as the rumours currently stand. Thankfully fir the moment they are just rumours.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 13:07:12 GMT
Nothing new here. The UWE is back on rumour was circulating in February of this year. I posted about it in a home match thread at the time. Time will tell, but one thing's for sure, nobody will find out for sure until Wael tells us that it is. Ex directors and respected journalists know nothing more than any of us and no doubt probably found their information by looking on here! The UWE have been as tight as a ducks ass since we announced we were pulling out and will continue to be so until something concrete is announced, I for one am sure about that.
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Post by Langford Gas on Aug 13, 2018 13:51:14 GMT
Thanks Severncider that is an insight (thats not sarcasm by the way) as I said on an earlier post it will be Spring rolls not Sausage Rolls So when did you infiltrate the cider empire, joining them is like the masons, it is secret you wear a kilt, give money away to good causes, and talk in riddles, you give snippets of disclosure, at weekly intervals. ”Now you ve blown the **** doors off” Expect immediate dismissal but loved by the Gas chat masses 😂⚽️💰💕 I draw the line at wearing a kilt, its bloody embarrassing keep tripping over !
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 13:59:43 GMT
I guess that will be the final nail in the coffin of the "club" we knew if that happens. We end up being just the plaything of a real estate tycoon who probably hardly knows where Bristol is. The price of "progress" I guess. I must admit listening to some of the ranting and raving that goes on on this forum by the fans who moan about 'plastic' clubs, and Lansdown's millions failing to get Premiersh!t football down BS3, and then moaning that we haven't got an owner that er throws millions around like Lansdown...... I sometimes wish we could get a billionaire owner that rips the soul out of the club so they could see what its like. Suppose its no longer a club for us supporters of 50 years who are glad of the improvements having been through some pretty dire years. As you say Oldie the price of progress.... Sadly Cheshire it appears so. Time we caught up methinks!!
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