|
Post by Colyton Gas on Aug 21, 2018 19:14:42 GMT
We've had a couple of rotters but on the whole have had some very good keepers in on loan, unless I am being selective with my memory I can't remember any top quality outfield players we have had in on loan in recent times. 99.9% have been average at best and I'm only leaving that 0.01% in case I've missed someone! Sweeney was decent. The best player we had on loan, on reflection, was probably Oliver Mcburnie, who is standing out in the Championship. He only played a handful of games for us though. Given the chance, he could have been lethal for us I reckon. Mc Burnie has score to-night already against Leeds.
|
|
|
Post by lincsblue on Aug 21, 2018 20:16:47 GMT
Gaffney did OK, well back when he was on loan from Cambridge he looked really good!
|
|
|
Post by lmgas on Aug 21, 2018 20:51:02 GMT
I really hope DC has got someone coming in, ie Lumley, that the board are backing him. If we are going to play with Smith then we're going to struggle, he's been poor in both the league games he's played.
|
|
|
Post by lmgas on Aug 21, 2018 21:33:53 GMT
From what DC said post match to the BBC it sounds like he's trying to get another keeper in.
Monies tight and he's got to get one out to get one in. We'll have to wait and see. It's a shame it's always one out before one in.
Wonder if he told Smith and Slocombe they were welcome to find another club as one would be going and the other would be fighting for their place against a new guy. Has Slocombe said anything since the move?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2018 22:02:37 GMT
We've had a couple of rotters but on the whole have had some very good keepers in on loan, unless I am being selective with my memory I can't remember any top quality outfield players we have had in on loan in recent times. 99.9% have been average at best and I'm only leaving that 0.01% in case I've missed someone! Sweeney was decent. The best player we had on loan, on reflection, was probably Oliver Mcburnie, who is standing out in the Championship. He only played a handful of games for us though. Given the chance, he could have been lethal for us I reckon. I knew I'd forget someone! Yep fair shout that, although I'm not including McBurnie, didn't do much for us and it surprised me that he was so highly rated and then seems to have found his level in the championship! But Sweeney is a good call for a quality outfield loan.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2018 22:06:17 GMT
Gaffney did OK, well back when he was on loan from Cambridge he looked really good! Good shout that, he was on fire whilst on loan. Two players, really not sure there are any more mind and we've had loads: Boateng, Goldberg, Clarke-Salter, the other one from Chelsea, Bola, Roberts, Telford etc etc.
|
|
|
Post by bluestone on Aug 21, 2018 22:13:19 GMT
This may sound harsh on Smith but I'd prefer DC to give Andre a go in goal right now.
Smith puts me on edge just watching him so god knows what our defenders feel like!
Terrible distribution and doesn't know when he should come for the ball on crosses and instead gets frozen on his line like a rabbit in the headlights.
I hope DC can get a decent loan GK in but my worry is will he stuck with Smith regardless?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2018 23:28:25 GMT
How the f**k can Slocombe go from starting a league game for us 10 days ago to being shipped out on loan to Lincoln?
I back DC, but this is a shambles.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2018 23:57:04 GMT
Sweeney was decent. The best player we had on loan, on reflection, was probably Oliver Mcburnie, who is standing out in the Championship. He only played a handful of games for us though. Given the chance, he could have been lethal for us I reckon. I knew I'd forget someone! Yep fair shout that, although I'm not including McBurnie, didn't do much for us and it surprised me that he was so highly rated and then seems to have found his level in the championship! But Sweeney is a good call for a quality outfield loan. Mcburnie only ever came on for the last five or ten minutes of games, hardly surprising he did not do a lot. Another loan signing wasted by our manager.
|
|
|
Post by socrates on Aug 22, 2018 0:04:19 GMT
I knew I'd forget someone! Yep fair shout that, although I'm not including McBurnie, didn't do much for us and it surprised me that he was so highly rated and then seems to have found his level in the championship! But Sweeney is a good call for a quality outfield loan. Mcburnie only ever came on for the last five or ten minutes of games, hardly surprising he did not do a lot. Another loan signing wasted by our manager. Didn’t we win promotion that season ? Its-not DCs our job to help other teams blood their youngsters it’s his job to get results for his club.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 0:37:53 GMT
I knew I'd forget someone! Yep fair shout that, although I'm not including McBurnie, didn't do much for us and it surprised me that he was so highly rated and then seems to have found his level in the championship! But Sweeney is a good call for a quality outfield loan. Mcburnie only ever came on for the last five or ten minutes of games, hardly surprising he did not do a lot. Another loan signing wasted by our manager. Well when mcburnie was here we were on a long winning run with gaffney and taylor scoring for fun. Which one would you have dropped during the promotion run in?
|
|
|
Post by gasheadbatesy on Aug 22, 2018 0:59:46 GMT
Mcburnie only ever came on for the last five or ten minutes of games, hardly surprising he did not do a lot. Another loan signing wasted by our manager. Well when mcburnie was here we were on a long winning run with gaffney and taylor scoring for fun. Which one would you have dropped during the promotion run in? O. Mc B would have got twice as many as nob Rott without pens. Obviously .......
|
|
|
Post by oldgas on Aug 22, 2018 3:59:18 GMT
How the f**k can Slocombe go from starting a league game for us 10 days ago to being shipped out on loan to Lincoln? I back DC, but this is a shambles. Apparently Slocombe is from Scumthorpe and has bought a house there. It is stated he wants a move back up North. So, in typical Rovers fashion, we let him move to Lincoln as an emergency loan for a week. What's the betting that gets converted to a years loan with the agreement he will sign for them at the end of the season? Im sorry, but he's under contract to us. You want to move up North? Fine, do so when your contract expires. Another example of Rovers rolling over when a player tells us to. Slocombe is a better keeper than Smith. We should have offered Lincoln him and kept Slocombe. I only hope Rovers have a better keeper lined up before the end of the window. Yet again, what a f ucking shambles.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 6:50:41 GMT
This may sound harsh on Smith but I'd prefer DC to give Andre a go in goal right now. Smith puts me on edge just watching him so god knows what our defenders feel like! Terrible distribution and doesn't know when he should come for the ball on crosses and instead gets frozen on his line like a rabbit in the headlights. I hope DC can get a decent loan GK in but my worry is will he stuck with Smith regardless? Andre did ok in his brief cameo last season and it went down well with the fans but he really did look like a rabbit in the headlights to me. No way would I want him anywhere near the first team at the moment - he'd have to be putting in some amazing performances for the devepment side before that happens and I don't think that has been the case. i don't understand the stick Smith is getting. Ok his kicking was awful last night but I don't think either goal last night was his fault. The first was an absolute rocket and the second seemed to loop over him after deflecting off Craig's outstretched heel. Wasn't he voted player of the year or league 2 top keeper in his last season at Northampton - I think he's worth persevering with.
|
|
|
Post by bluestone on Aug 22, 2018 7:26:18 GMT
This may sound harsh on Smith but I'd prefer DC to give Andre a go in goal right now. Smith puts me on edge just watching him so god knows what our defenders feel like! Terrible distribution and doesn't know when he should come for the ball on crosses and instead gets frozen on his line like a rabbit in the headlights. I hope DC can get a decent loan GK in but my worry is will he stuck with Smith regardless? Andre did ok in his brief cameo last season and it went down well with the fans but he really did look like a rabbit in the headlights to me. No way would I want him anywhere near the first team at the moment - he'd have to be putting in some amazing performances for the devepment side before that happens and I don't think that has been the case. i don't understand the stick Smith is getting. Ok his kicking was awful last night but I don't think either goal last night was his fault. The first was an absolute rocket and the second seemed to loop over him after deflecting off Craig's outstretched heel. Wasn't he voted player of the year or league 2 top keeper in his last season at Northampton - I think he's worth persevering with. Each to their own I suppose. Imo Smith has never been convincing for us and he had a fair opportunity to impress last season but didn't take it, hence why Slocombe ended up being the preferred choice. Ok, he can stop a few shots (sometimes!) but that's about it. If you look at his overall game is well below the standard that we need to be a top 6 side. Fingers crossed DC has someone better than Smith lined up otherwise this could seriously dent our chances of getting into the play offs come the end of the season. Btw I'm not saying Andre should come in permanently but I really don't think he would be any worse than Smith. I'd like to see DC try him in the EFL trophy games at the very least.
|
|
|
Post by titchthephot on Aug 22, 2018 8:02:37 GMT
There is obviously a lot gong on behind the scenes with Slocombe going to Lincoln and I suspect we will never know what the real reason is. Slocombe is the better keeper by far (imo) although Smith isn't terrible he does stay on his line too much and his kicking is poor. I really hope we get Lumley back on loan with a view to signing him is the January opening. I trust in DC so I am happy to sit back and see what happens. Someone said Smith wasn't at fault for the goals last night and I agree about the first one but the second one came about because his kick went straight out of play and they scored from the possession they got from the throw in.
|
|
|
Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on Aug 22, 2018 8:08:24 GMT
All keepers are going to make howlers at some point. Not got a problem with that. My issue is that it seems there is a general nervousness across the back 4 of what is going on behind them. Keeping is very much a confidence game. Smith needs to be more commanding, only seems to get verbal after he's let one in. Lockyer as captain really does need to be a bit more verbal in giving Smith a bit of a kick although I gather this is what Craig was brought in for. I'd be happy with an average keeper who has the confidence to shout at his back line, if in doubt hoof it and we'll discuss later. This is where Lumley is missed.
|
|
|
Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 22, 2018 8:20:13 GMT
|
|
|
Post by peterparker on Aug 22, 2018 8:26:06 GMT
maybe now is the opportunity for Smith. A run of games where he will defo play and not be swapped out. Might give him some confidence
I think Smith and Slocombe are decent enough 3rd division keepers and there isn't much to choose between them. Kind of need to fuse them together in some way
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 8:33:18 GMT
How the f**k can Slocombe go from starting a league game for us 10 days ago to being shipped out on loan to Lincoln? I back DC, but this is a shambles. Apparently Slocombe is from Scumthorpe and has bought a house there. It is stated he wants a move back up North. So, in typical Rovers fashion, we let him move to Lincoln as an emergency loan for a week. What's the betting that gets converted to a years loan with the agreement he will sign for them at the end of the season? Im sorry, but he's under contract to us. You want to move up North? Fine, do so when your contract expires. Another example of Rovers rolling over when a player tells us to. Slocombe is a better keeper than Smith. We should have offered Lincoln him and kept Slocombe. I only hope Rovers have a better keeper lined up before the end of the window. Yet again, what a f ucking shambles. It gets even worse when you consider that he was only used as cover on the bench. So the lad who is generally considered our first choice keeper can't get in the starting XI for Lincoln.
|
|