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Post by dinsdale on Aug 30, 2018 15:27:22 GMT
Would you have him back as Director of Football though? No because he’s a manager not a DOF. There’s a massive difference. The other category is a Coach which I think DC falls into and could benefit from a DOF just like Paul Trollope did who was, and still is a coach. Totally agree, Holloway as a manager always needed a lot of support especially with recruitment so no way dof material
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 30, 2018 15:48:28 GMT
I love Ollie, great player for us and his team played some great football before exploding that end of season. He’s been gone for many years and I’m sure he’d be great at a comedy show but not as a manager for us now. So he said he wanted QPR to win. He’s there to cause a bit of ruction not for his measured reflective thoughts!! That’s Ollie. Anyway who cares. We lost need to concentrate on Shrewsbury now and hope Rodman wants to prove a point. UTG! Imploding old chap, imploding. I know what you mean but I did mean exploding with all the ramifications of what happened. It was deliberate use of the word.😀 UTG!
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Post by lympstonegas on Aug 30, 2018 15:50:14 GMT
He’s just been asked for a straight answer to a straight question by Colin Murray on the Quest highlights programme. Who did you want to win QPR or Bristol Rovers? The answer from the so say gashead legend? “QPR if I’m honest’ Not the answer I expected and my respect for him has just gone down several more notches. Was he wearing a tangerine tie when he said it? No a green and white one
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Post by oldgas on Aug 30, 2018 16:04:35 GMT
My respect for him has increased,he managed QPR until recently and knows the players so its obvious he would want them to win. Its an honest answer from a professional football man. What little respect I had has diminished as a result of his latest ill - judged comment. You can only truly support one club. Here is someone who has proclaimed his undying devotion to Rovers through the media, his book, comments on football TV programmes etc etc. He has dumped on our club 3 times, twice as a player, once as a manager. I have no problem with him wanting to advance his career, no problem at all, ambition should be applauded. But not when it follows chest-thumping, badge kissing histrionics, and declarations of undying love and self-sacrifice when speaking of Rovers. I suspect the only reason he said QPR is because he knows he might get another job there in the near future, whereas he knows he's got no chance with the Gas. Ian Holloway will say whatever he thinks will most benefit Ian Holloway, always has, always will. A tub-thumping "Professional Bristolian" who makes my toes curl every time he starts spouting his total bollox on the TV.
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Post by syg on Aug 30, 2018 17:20:40 GMT
What was he suppose to say, "Rovers". That would mean he prefers a team of people he largely doesn't know against a team of people he managed and coached, never going to happen. People are confusing team and club. He should have sat on the fence.
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Post by peterhooper57 on Aug 30, 2018 17:40:58 GMT
Holloway as a player was a legend. Would still be in my all-time Rovers Team. Oh to have a player of his quality in today's side! As a manager, he produced some of the best football we have seen. Who cares who he wanted to win in the League Cup. Totally agree, Ollie would walk into any Rovers all time team; ffs he played in one of the most successful sides Rovers have ever had. Ollie and Andy Reece in midfield, would ****** create chance after chance, not like the current bunch of players, how many players since Ollie was in his pomp, would get in the team in front of him ? answer, NONE. Ollie was tremendous at taking corners, we have not scored a goal from a corner since the Holloway, Twentyman, Bruno days, remember that last minute goal away at Northampton to win the game. Imo he was screwed over by Rovers when he was manager, he got us to the top of what was the Div 1 table. I cannot believe so called Rovers fans are slagging Ollie off. I would never slag off DC, but to say he is a bigger legend than Ollie, really !
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Post by Icegas on Aug 30, 2018 18:21:45 GMT
Holloway as a player was a legend. Would still be in my all-time Rovers Team. Oh to have a player of his quality in today's side! As a manager, he produced some of the best football we have seen. Who cares who he wanted to win in the League Cup. Totally agree, Ollie would walk into any Rovers all time team; ffs he played in one of the most successful sides Rovers have ever had. Ollie and Andy Reece in midfield, would ****** create chance after chance, not like the current bunch of players, how many players since Ollie was in his pomp, would get in the team in front of him ? answer, NONE. Ollie was tremendous at taking corners, we have not scored a goal from a corner since the Holloway, Twentyman, Bruno days, remember that last minute goal away at Northampton to win the game. Imo he was screwed over by Rovers when he was manager, he got us to the top of what was the Div 1 table. I cannot believe so called Rovers fans are slagging Ollie off. I would never slag off DC, but to say he is a bigger legend than Ollie, really ! How was Holloway screwed over by Rovers as a manager? He was in charge for 5/6 seasons and was given the best part of £2million or more to spend on transfers during his time here by dunford and co. Barry £250k , Curo £150k , Roberts £250k , Foster £200k , Thompson £100k , Ellington £150k, Evans £250k Camron £150k...etc..etc not to forget the high wages of Wally and Vitas! I could go on with others but some of those players were so sh** I cant remember there names now! Ollie was backed like f**k for a club of our size and resources, with money that DC could only dream of right now! Dont get me wrong,I was a ollie fan and his playoff team in 1998,and then the side that bottled it in 2000 played some amazing football and gave me some great memorys. DC was far more screwed over by the board than Oille was when he was thrown to the wolfs by taking over our clubs worst ever side from ward for the last 8 games of that season. DC rebulit our football club and if it wasnt for him we might not have a Bristol Rovers FC today. Just because Holloway was part of a great Rovers team that won a championship and was born in Kingswood does not him anyway near as important as DC has been for the history of our club,nor a bigger legend.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Aug 30, 2018 19:32:34 GMT
Paul Buckle, take a bow.
Was there nothing this man was not right about?
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Post by Somersetgas on Aug 30, 2018 19:47:50 GMT
Paul Buckle, take a bow. Was there nothing this man was not right about? I’m not sure about the excess hair gel and orange skin? Did he ever give an opinion on this?
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Post by pirate on Aug 30, 2018 19:54:28 GMT
Totally agree, Ollie would walk into any Rovers all time team; ffs he played in one of the most successful sides Rovers have ever had. Ollie and Andy Reece in midfield, would ****** create chance after chance, not like the current bunch of players, how many players since Ollie was in his pomp, would get in the team in front of him ? answer, NONE. Ollie was tremendous at taking corners, we have not scored a goal from a corner since the Holloway, Twentyman, Bruno days, remember that last minute goal away at Northampton to win the game. Imo he was screwed over by Rovers when he was manager, he got us to the top of what was the Div 1 table. I cannot believe so called Rovers fans are slagging Ollie off. I would never slag off DC, but to say he is a bigger legend than Ollie, really ! How was Holloway screwed over by Rovers as a manager? He was in charge for 5/6 seasons and was given the best part of £2million or more to spend on transfers during his time here by dunford and co. Barry £250k , Curo £150k , Roberts £250k , Foster £200k , Thompson £100k , Ellington £150k, Evans £250k Camron £150k...etc..etc not to forget the high wages of Wally and Vitas! ...and made the club £8 million or more selling those players and others.
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Post by Icegas on Aug 30, 2018 20:24:22 GMT
How was Holloway screwed over by Rovers as a manager? He was in charge for 5/6 seasons and was given the best part of £2million or more to spend on transfers during his time here by dunford and co. Barry £250k , Curo £150k , Roberts £250k , Foster £200k , Thompson £100k , Ellington £150k, Evans £250k Camron £150k...etc..etc not to forget the high wages of Wally and Vitas! ...and made the club £8 million or more selling those players and others. No he never. Stewart and browning were sold a year before he took over and during the summer we moved to the mem - his first season in charge. Hayles and Roberts went for £2m each. Ellington went for £1.5m and curo was sold quickly for pretty much what he paid for him to Reading. None of the others had any profit when they left Bs7.. Thats Around £5.5 million in players sold.And like I said earlier he spent £2 million on fees during his time here.
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Post by pirate on Aug 30, 2018 20:41:13 GMT
...and made the club £8 million or more selling those players and others. No he never. Stewart and browning were sold a year before he took over and during the summer we moved to the mem - his first season in charge. Hayles and Roberts went for £2m each. Ellington went for £1.5m and curo was sold quickly for pretty much what he paid for him to Reading. None of the others had any profit when they left Bs7.. Thats Around £5.5 million in players sold.And like I said earlier he spent £2 million on fees during his time here. Hayles £2.1mil, Roberts £2mil, Ellington £1.6mil, Cureton £200k, Zamora £1.3mil (from initial fee and add ons), Beadle 300k, Lee Jones 60k, Mickey Evans 40k = 7.6 million.
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Post by Big Jock on Aug 30, 2018 20:45:27 GMT
No he never. Stewart and browning were sold a year before he took over and during the summer we moved to the mem - his first season in charge. Hayles and Roberts went for £2m each. Ellington went for £1.5m and curo was sold quickly for pretty much what he paid for him to Reading. None of the others had any profit when they left Bs7.. Thats Around £5.5 million in players sold.And like I said earlier he spent £2 million on fees during his time here. Hayles £2.1mil, Roberts £2mil, Ellington £1.6mil, Cureton £200k, Zamora £1.3mil (from initial fee and add ons), Beadle 300k, Lee Jones 60k, Mickey Evans 40k = 7.6 million. ...or . . . .
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Post by albaron on Aug 30, 2018 20:47:33 GMT
No he never. Stewart and browning were sold a year before he took over and during the summer we moved to the mem - his first season in charge. Hayles and Roberts went for £2m each. Ellington went for £1.5m and curo was sold quickly for pretty much what he paid for him to Reading. None of the others had any profit when they left Bs7.. Thats Around £5.5 million in players sold.And like I said earlier he spent £2 million on fees during his time here. Hayles £2.1mil, Roberts £2mil, Ellington £1.6mil, Cureton £200k, Zamora £1.3mil (from initial fee and add ons), Beadle 300k, Lee Jones 60k, Mickey Evans 40k = 7.6 million. I thought Zamora only went for 100 K -- All other prices I agree with.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2018 21:02:50 GMT
Hayles £2.1mil, Roberts £2mil, Ellington £1.6mil, Cureton £200k, Zamora £1.3mil (from initial fee and add ons), Beadle 300k, Lee Jones 60k, Mickey Evans 40k = 7.6 million. I thought Zamora only went for 100 K -- All other prices I agree with. With add ons Rovers received almost £1m for Zamora during his career.
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Post by pirate on Aug 30, 2018 21:04:33 GMT
With add ons Rovers received almost £1m for Zamora during his career. I was told it was over a million and close to £1.3mil.
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Post by Icegas on Aug 30, 2018 21:06:27 GMT
No he never. Stewart and browning were sold a year before he took over and during the summer we moved to the mem - his first season in charge. Hayles and Roberts went for £2m each. Ellington went for £1.5m and curo was sold quickly for pretty much what he paid for him to Reading. None of the others had any profit when they left Bs7.. Thats Around £5.5 million in players sold.And like I said earlier he spent £2 million on fees during his time here. Hayles £2.1mil, Roberts £2mil, Ellington £1.6mil, Cureton £200k, Zamora £1.3mil (from initial fee and add ons), Beadle 300k, Lee Jones 60k, Mickey Evans 40k = 7.6 million. Im sorry but I did forgot in all fairness Beadle, but I was just talking about players he brought and then sold. If your adding Beadle then you have to take Ellingtons sale out as Holloway had left our club when the duke was sold and Holloway never brought Beadle himself. Also, Im sure Zamora went for £100k with no add ons as at he time Brighton here homeless and potless in League 2/1. And Holloway thought we was not good enough so moved him on, plus Bobby came through our system so was not a holly signing.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2018 21:16:55 GMT
Hayles £2.1mil, Roberts £2mil, Ellington £1.6mil, Cureton £200k, Zamora £1.3mil (from initial fee and add ons), Beadle 300k, Lee Jones 60k, Mickey Evans 40k = 7.6 million. Im sorry but I did forgot in all fairness Beadle, but I was just talking about players he brought and then sold. If your adding Beadle then you have to take Ellingtons sale out as Holloway had left our club when the duke was sold and Holloway never brought Beadle himself. Also, Im sure Zamora went for £100k with no add ons as at he time Brighton here homeless and potless in League 2/1. And Holloway thought we was not good enough so moved him on, plus Bobby came through our system so was not a holly signing. There definately were some very large add ons from Zamora.
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Post by pirate on Aug 30, 2018 21:19:21 GMT
Hayles £2.1mil, Roberts £2mil, Ellington £1.6mil, Cureton £200k, Zamora £1.3mil (from initial fee and add ons), Beadle 300k, Lee Jones 60k, Mickey Evans 40k = 7.6 million. Im sorry but I did forgot in all fairness Beadle, but I was just talking about players he brought and then sold. If your adding Beadle then you have to take Ellingtons sale out as Holloway had left our club when the duke was sold and Holloway never brought Beadle himself. Also, Im sure Zamora went for £100k with no add ons as at he time Brighton here homeless and potless in League 2/1. Forget the Beadle fee then, that would make it £7.3 million with the Ellington fee included. Zamora definitely had add on fees included in the deal because he made the club at least £500k when he moved from Brighton to Tottenham. I believe there were other clauses that subsequently netted the club a further £500k or so.
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Post by Icegas on Aug 30, 2018 21:19:36 GMT
Im sorry but I did forgot in all fairness Beadle, but I was just talking about players he brought and then sold. If your adding Beadle then you have to take Ellingtons sale out as Holloway had left our club when the duke was sold and Holloway never brought Beadle himself. Also, Im sure Zamora went for £100k with no add ons as at he time Brighton here homeless and potless in League 2/1. And Holloway thought we was not good enough so moved him on, plus Bobby came through our system so was not a holly signing. There definately were some very large add ons from Zamora. Sure ok, Im 99% your correct but still cant class bobby as a player holly may us profit from as he thought that he was not good enough and I said he never signed himself like he did with Roberts,Hayles and the Duke.
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