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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2018 21:21:43 GMT
There definately were some very large add ons from Zamora. Sure ok, Im 99% your correct but still can class bobby as a player Holly may us profit from as he thought that he was not good enough and I said he never signed himself like he did with Roberts,Hayles and the Duke. Also, Zamora joined Rovers as an 18year Old after being released by West Ham. This was in 1999when Holloway was manager he was not a product of our youth system.
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Post by Icegas on Aug 30, 2018 21:26:50 GMT
Sure ok, Im 99% your correct but still can class bobby as a player Holly may us profit from as he thought that he was not good enough and I said he never signed himself like he did with Roberts,Hayles and the Duke. Also, Zamora joined Rovers as an 18year Old after being released by West Ham he was not a product of our youth system. I know, but he was not a Holloway signing nither... So as a manager that did not sign Bobby, thought he was not good enough, how can the £1.3/6 million add ons be down to him once he was sold? Not being agressive,just asking for the sake of the subject.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2018 21:28:32 GMT
And he gave us Astafjevs and Walters, two of the finest players I have seen wearing the quarters.
My summary of Ollie...young, exuberant, passionate manager when he was here. Let his heart rule his head too much early on but produced very exciting teams in the manner of Keegan's Newcastle - you score 3, we'll score 4. He gave us something to believe in, which is something only Darrell and Gerry have also done in my time.
That was then though. He's had a rollercoaster since with notable successes (Blackpool and Palace were massive achievements) and some car crashes (Leicester and Millwall were never going to be a good fit).
I think his best managing days are behind him and don't see the benefit in him returning, but let's not forget that he is a Rovers legend for serving our club as a superb, combative midfielder and as an exciting young manager. Maybe rather than try to twist the manner of his departures, we should treat him with the total respect he deserves.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2018 21:29:09 GMT
Also, Zamora joined Rovers as an 18year Old after being released by West Ham he was not a product of our youth system. I know, but he was not a Holloway signing nither... So as a manager that did not sign Bobby, thought he was not good enough, how can the £1.3/6 million add ons be down to him once he was sold? Not being agressive,just asking for the sake of the subject. Well Holloway was manager when Zamora joined the club so who signed him then?
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Post by pirate on Aug 30, 2018 21:54:58 GMT
There definately were some very large add ons from Zamora. Sure ok, Im 99% your correct but still cant class bobby as a player holly may us profit from as he thought that he was not good enough and I said he never signed himself like he did with Roberts,Hayles and the Duke. Ollie rated Zamora highly and gave him his first team debut at a time when we had the likes of Cureton, Roberts and Ellington at the club. The reason he let him leave was because he was out of contract the following summer and was asking for an amount of money which fell outside our existing wage structure. Zamora also wanted to leave because he felt he would get a better chance of first team football at Brighton, which was true when you consider the strikers we had at the time. I'm also sure he joined the club during Ollies time at the club after leaving the West Ham youth setup, possibly on the recommendation of the scout Richard Everson.
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Post by pirate on Aug 30, 2018 21:56:59 GMT
Also, Zamora joined Rovers as an 18year Old after being released by West Ham he was not a product of our youth system. I know, but he was not a Holloway signing nither... So as a manager that did not sign Bobby, thought he was not good enough, how can the £1.3/6 million add ons be down to him once he was sold? Not being agressive,just asking for the sake of the subject. Holloway was manager at the time and I think him signing was as a result of a recommendation from scout Richard Everson, as I mentioned in my previous post
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2018 21:59:15 GMT
I know, but he was not a Holloway signing nither... So as a manager that did not sign Bobby, thought he was not good enough, how can the £1.3/6 million add ons be down to him once he was sold? Not being agressive,just asking for the sake of the subject. Holloway was manager at the time and I think him signing was as a result of a recommendation from scout Richard Everson, as I mentioned in my previous post Saw more of Bobby for bath city than I did rovers and he absolutely cleaned up down there!
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Post by socrates on Aug 30, 2018 22:06:44 GMT
Really dissapointed to have read this, I grew up watching Holloway and hoped one day he might come back because of how passionate I thought he was about Rovers but not now, I think DC is more passionate about Rovers than Holloway. Even if we went down DC is the best thing about our club, my opinion of course The supporters who follow our club through thick and thin are the best thing about our club always have been. But yes DC is a Rovers legend and we need to stick by him and support him and our players. The team that won the promotions has now broken up but that doesn’t have to mean the end of it. I trust him to get it right and every Rovers fan should his attitude and record deserves that.
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Post by gasmark2 on Aug 30, 2018 22:29:03 GMT
I loved Ollie as a player and enjoyed the football when he was the manager but have to agree that he isn't a Gashead not only the comments on quest but when commentating at The sh** on the first game of the season this season. He was going on about keeping a low profile because of the sh** he would get, then the co-commentater was saying about all the selfies and autographs he was signing for the six fingered, toothless, sister shaggers.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2018 22:36:32 GMT
Football isn’t a religion to professionals within the game like it is to your average supporter. It’s their livelihoods even Marcus Stewart has a Bristol City tattoo on his leg despite wanting us to win each time we play whilst he’s employed by the club.
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Post by Icegas on Aug 30, 2018 23:39:00 GMT
And he gave us Astafjevs and Walters, two of the finest players I have seen wearing the quarters. My summary of Ollie...young, exuberant, passionate manager when he was here. Let his heart rule his head too much early on but produced very exciting teams in the manner of Keegan's Newcastle - you score 3, we'll score 4. He gave us something to believe in, which is something only Darrell and Gerry have also done in my time. That was then though. He's had a rollercoaster since with notable successes (Blackpool and Palace were massive achievements) and some car crashes (Leicester and Millwall were never going to be a good fit). I think his best managing days are behind him and don't see the benefit in him returning, but let's not forget that he is a Rovers legend for serving our club as a superb, combative midfielder and as an exciting young manager. Maybe rather than try to twist the manner of his departures, we should treat him with the total respect he deserves. I 100% agree.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Aug 31, 2018 0:16:38 GMT
Well according to a regular poster on talking sh**;
You should've heard Holloway on TalkSport on the opening day v Forest as he was at AG doing co-commentary. He was absolutely raving about the facilities and atmosphere at AG. Said he was desperate for City to make the Premier League (he's presumably given up all hope of the other lot doing it). It's the first time I've heard him speak and felt he genuinely sounded like he wished us well. Can't really blame him for not wanting to be associated with the other lot anymore, just a complete embarrassment to him I'd imagine.
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Post by socrates on Aug 31, 2018 1:12:19 GMT
I loved Ollie as a player and enjoyed the football when he was the manager but have to agree that he isn't a Gashead not only the comments on quest but when commentating at The sh** on the first game of the season this season. He was going on about keeping a low profile because of the sh** he would get, then the co-commentater was saying about all the selfies and autographs he was signing for the six fingered, toothless, sister shaggers. Really ? As far as I’m concerned Ian Holloway always gave his best for Rovers as a player and as a manager. He wasn’t the perfect player he was a bloody good one and hes not a great manager just a very good one ( look at his record) but just because he says this or has a photo with that does that really change the fact that he always gave it everything for our club ? Personally I couldn’t give a sh** what he says in the media or if he had his photo taken with some Sh1!heads once , who honestly gives a f**k about that ? Footballers do their talking on the pitch and anyone who saw Olly regularly like I did in the quarters knows that he gave his best in every game and always gave 200% against the sh** or when we were 1-1 in the final minutes he’d score a beaut to help us on our way to promotion , he was a roll your sleeves up get stuck in kind of bloke and a gas head through and through and had more bottle and bollocks than most of the so called Gasheads throwing the towel in after 6 games that we’ve got in here currently. You haven’t got to like him as a media pundit to respect him as gas head for f**ks sake the man gave his all for our club and to the people who say look at the mess he left us in when he left as manager it’s up to the board to make sure a club doesn’t spend beyond their means not the manager. It’s like when Pompey fans blamed redknapp, if he asked and you haven’t got it don’t give him it. All managers want more to keep their best players and sign better players because that’s how they see their best chance to succeed. He’s won four promotions and what one relegation and that was when he left Plymouth in the championship and took over at Leicester who were in free fall ? Could be wrong on that I don’t know his complete history and to be honest I don’t care because we’re talking Rovers anyway and what a servant he was to our club . UTG And no I wouldn’t swap DC with Olly , DC needs backing so get behind him and stop the stupid threads. Rovers until I die.
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Aug 31, 2018 12:07:35 GMT
U no understand banjo island oh yes o do I am originally from wick
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Post by baggins on Aug 31, 2018 13:11:09 GMT
U no understand banjo island oh yes o do I am originally from wick Sorry to hear that. You ok now?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2018 13:15:08 GMT
Is anyone really surprised? This is Ian ‘ I bleed green and white’ Holloway we are talking about.
An excellent player at eastville and twerton and built an exciting team to watch at The Dump but full of it, if only to get on in his career. Not worth fretting over imo.
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 31, 2018 17:29:11 GMT
I loved Ollie as a player and enjoyed the football when he was the manager but have to agree that he isn't a Gashead not only the comments on quest but when commentating at The sh** on the first game of the season this season. He was going on about keeping a low profile because of the sh** he would get, then the co-commentater was saying about all the selfies and autographs he was signing for the six fingered, toothless, sister shaggers. Really ? As far as I’m concerned Ian Holloway always gave his best for Rovers as a player and as a manager. He wasn’t the perfect player he was a bloody good one and hes not a great manager just a very good one ( look at his record) but just because he says this or has a photo with that does that really change the fact that he always gave it everything for our club ? Personally I couldn’t give a sh** what he says in the media or if he had his photo taken with some Sh1!heads once , who honestly gives a f**k about that ? Footballers do their talking on the pitch and anyone who saw Olly regularly like I did in the quarters knows that he gave his best in every game and always gave 200% against the sh** or when we were 1-1 in the final minutes he’d score a beaut to help us on our way to promotion , he was a roll your sleeves up get stuck in kind of bloke and a gas head through and through and had more bottle and bollocks than most of the so called Gasheads throwing the towel in after 6 games that we’ve got in here currently. You haven’t got to like him as a media pundit to respect him as gas head for f**ks sake the man gave his all for our club and to the people who say look at the mess he left us in when he left as manager it’s up to the board to make sure a club doesn’t spend beyond their means not the manager. It’s like when Pompey fans blamed redknapp, if he asked and you haven’t got it don’t give him it. All managers want more to keep their best players and sign better players because that’s how they see their best chance to succeed. He’s won four promotions and what one relegation and that was when he left Plymouth in the championship and took over at Leicester who were in free fall ? Could be wrong on that I don’t know his complete history and to be honest I don’t care because we’re talking Rovers anyway and what a servant he was to our club . UTG And no I wouldn’t swap DC with Olly , DC needs backing so get behind him and stop the stupid threads. Rovers until I die. Agree completely. Spot on socrates. UTG!
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Post by rememberhalifax on Aug 31, 2018 19:17:40 GMT
Great player for the Gas and great servant, deserved to get us into championship when manager,let down by dispute twixt players and board, great at getting best out of average lower leagues players , not so good with so called stars who wouldn't buy in to his '200% commitment, Blackpool players bought in to his philosophy and produced one of the best footballing sides in their history who lit up the Prem ,all be it short lived !, great job at palace and QPR where he played in prob the best side they ever had, managed them when they were in desperate straights and kept them going , same last season when asked to manage with what they had and bring youth on as no money available , done it very well until club decided they wanted someone else to take them to next level, well Mr Mclaren has certainly done that!Makes me sad to hear people slag him off , he deserves more respect , I for one will not forget his contribution to our club and wish him all the best whatever the future holds for him!
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Post by mehewmagic on Aug 31, 2018 19:24:51 GMT
Without going into all the 'is he a legend or not' stuff, Ollie has clearly had an issue with the club for a while now, and is in the Holtby group who basically will have nothing to do with the actual club.
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Sept 1, 2018 7:19:57 GMT
oh yes o do I am originally from wick Sorry to hear that. You ok now? never fully recovered
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