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Post by pirate on Sept 1, 2018 23:52:32 GMT
I think Wael needs to donate some money to the budget and allow us to go and get 3 or 4 decent free agents. The squad is crying out for an injection of quality. If not, I can see us struggling until January and crowds will start to drop.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 23:55:08 GMT
I think Wael needs to donate some money to the budget and allow us to go and get 3 or 4 decent free agents. The squad is crying out for an injection of quality. If not, I can see us struggling until January and crowds will start to drop. We can dream!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 23:59:19 GMT
If the Chairnan is openly critical that does not bode well. I feel that next Saturday is a must win for DC - it cannot go on like this. It's all very well the Chairman being openly critical on the radio, but what has he done to try and help DC? Did he make sure DC could replace The Snake when he f ucked off to the sh**? Did he make sure DC had funds to replace Bodin when he f ucked off to Preston? Did he make sure DC had the funds to replace Ellis when he f ucked off to Ipswich? All the board allowed DC to sign were cut-price replacements. It comes to something when the likes of Exeter and Forest Green can tell us to take a walk when we enquire about their players! I wonder what would happen if DC went on the radio and called the chairman and board a bunch of tight-fisted c unts? I was at Shrewsbury today, and what I saw was a bunch of very limited players doing the best they could. There was no spark such as might be provided by the players just mentioned. 2 of The enforced free signings, Rodman and Upson might as well have stayed back in Bristol. And as for Martin, his performance typified the sort of crap DC is forced to sign by those useless tossers who own and run our club. Rant over. I'm fully behind DC but it's nonsense to suggest he has received no backing. Nicholls and Payne would have cost upwards of 500k combined, more than a decent investment at this level. People are delusional if they seriously think we would spend 1m+ on players from Forest Green etc. Having seen Telford score twice today, it's gutting that a player who knows how to hit the back of the net was brushed aside.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 0:01:21 GMT
Not felt this despair since Braintree.Awful standard of football with certain players not fit to wear the Quarters.With the total lack of any evidence of the long awaited stadium development or training complex with M'r Wael stating publicly he can't tell us anything due to 'Confidentiality Agreements' either that means plan 'B' & there really is something happening or he's waffling. Name the players not fit to wear the shirt then? Remember the time when players were out of form or lacking in confidence? Nobody ever says "hes off form" now. Its just get rid etc nowadays,what i dont get is its mostly older fans that are quickest to turn.
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Post by socrates on Sept 2, 2018 0:12:41 GMT
It was our first Rovers match today and it was painful to watch. Our inability to control the ball and make a simple pass really shocked me, added to which the lack of pace of some of our players was very evident I know we have a raft of players out but it is obvious we have gone backwards in the last 6/12 months. The biggest concern is we dont look like creating many chances as our build up play is ponderous and predictable. I am not one to overreact,but we are crying out for creativity and drive so getting some of our injured players back cant happen soon enough Finally, it was patently obvious that Martin would get sent off as he walking a fine line all game and why he dived in when the ball was not in a dangerous area I dont no, he cost us 2 points as despite all their possession Shrewsbury looked as woeful as us in front of goal!! Lines available for the next match need to start him he’s our only natural playmaker. Without him we lack the ability to unlock defences . Our top two assists these last few years are Lee brown and Chris lines. With neither in the team we can’t create much and even when we do it’s loads of half chances . Browner didn’t create half chances he set up Goals, likewise lines.
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Post by socrates on Sept 2, 2018 0:17:00 GMT
I think Wael needs to donate some money to the budget and allow us to go and get 3 or 4 decent free agents. The squad is crying out for an injection of quality. If not, I can see us struggling until January and crowds will start to drop. Do they know the players who are out of contract that will help us though ? I know you’ve got a list of players you rate who are out of contract and most of them are foreign but have DC and our new scouting system got a list ? Is the money there ? If they’re out of contract when’s the deadline to sign them ?
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Post by pirate on Sept 2, 2018 0:21:59 GMT
I think Wael needs to donate some money to the budget and allow us to go and get 3 or 4 decent free agents. The squad is crying out for an injection of quality. If not, I can see us struggling until January and crowds will start to drop. Do they know the players who are out of contract that will help us though ? I know you’ve got a list of players you rate who are out of contract and most of them are foreign but have DC and our new scouting system got a list ? Is the money there ? If they’re out of contract when’s the deadline to sign them ? Ross Wallace, Kazenga LuaLua, David Henen, Adam Hammill, Wes Hoolahan, Darren Bent, Matt Mills, Greg Halford, Lloyd Dyer, Chris Eagles, Jim O'Brien, Diego Poyet, Nathan Oduwa are just some of the ones available. I could name 5 or 6 quality ones abroad, but you probably won't be aware of them so I won't bother. If they were out of contract before the deadline then they can be signed anytime and there is no deadline. Is the money there? It is if Wael wants it to be.
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Post by socrates on Sept 2, 2018 0:35:40 GMT
Do they know the players who are out of contract that will help us though ? I know you’ve got a list of players you rate who are out of contract and most of them are foreign but have DC and our new scouting system got a list ? Is the money there ? If they’re out of contract when’s the deadline to sign them ? Ross Wallace, Kazenga LuaLua, David Henen, Adam Hammill, Wes Hoolahan, Darren Bent, Matt Mills, Greg Halford, Lloyd Dyer, Chris Eagles, Jim O'Brien, Diego Poyet, Nathan Oduwa are just some of the ones available. I could name 5 or 6 quality ones abroad, but you probably won't be aware of them so I won't bother. If they were out of contract before the deadline then they can be signed anytime and there is no deadline. Is the money there? It is if Wael wants it to be. I’m not convinced your last line is right, if Wael wants it to be . Waels not stupid he knows football he can see what we need but if he could sign the cheques we’d probably already have some in . It’s not as easy as that though is it
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Post by pirate on Sept 2, 2018 0:42:38 GMT
Ross Wallace, Kazenga LuaLua, David Henen, Adam Hammill, Wes Hoolahan, Darren Bent, Matt Mills, Greg Halford, Lloyd Dyer, Chris Eagles, Jim O'Brien, Diego Poyet, Nathan Oduwa are just some of the ones available. I could name 5 or 6 quality ones abroad, but you probably won't be aware of them so I won't bother. If they were out of contract before the deadline then they can be signed anytime and there is no deadline. Is the money there? It is if Wael wants it to be. I’m not convinced your last line is right, if Wael wants it to be . Waels not stupid he knows football he can see what we need but if he could sign the cheques we’d probably already have some in . It’s not as easy as that though is it The Al Qadi family aren't as rich as we were initially led to believe, but they aren't paupers either. They could afford to increase the budget if they wanted to. How about 'donating' the 500k in transfers fees we received this summer? Even If it was paid in instalments they know they will get the money eventually.
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Post by socrates on Sept 2, 2018 0:50:55 GMT
I’m not convinced your last line is right, if Wael wants it to be . Waels not stupid he knows football he can see what we need but if he could sign the cheques we’d probably already have some in . It’s not as easy as that though is it The Al Qadi family aren't as rich as we were initially led to believe, but they aren't paupers either. They could afford to increase the budget if they wanted to. How about 'donating' the 500k in transfers fees we recieved this summer? Even If it is in instalments they know they will get the money eventually. Yeah I agree with you I’d love to see us push the boat out a little and sign some more players . However I’m not convinced that DC hasn’t been backed either because quite frankly I don’t know. There’s this thing going around our fan base at games and on here that DC has been given a sh**e budget and he’s watered off but does anyone actually know what his budget is , whether is more or less than last year ? We have signed quite a few and two of them were at Wembley in the play off final last season, probably didn’t come cheap. I reckon our budget has steadily increased since WAQ arrived but like I said I don’t know. That’s the thing , everyone’s got an opinion but nobody seems to have an educated one where they know for sure that our budget is worse .
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Post by swissgas on Sept 2, 2018 1:02:43 GMT
Not felt this despair since Braintree.Awful standard of football with certain players not fit to wear the Quarters.With the total lack of any evidence of the long awaited stadium development or training complex with M'r Wael stating publicly he can't tell us anything due to 'Confidentiality Agreements' either that means plan 'B' & there really is something happening or he's waffling. Name the players not fit to wear the shirt then? Remember the time when players were out of form or lacking in confidence? Nobody ever says "hes off form" now. Its just get rid etc nowadays,what i dont get is its mostly older fans that are quickest to turn. As an older fan myself I understand how staffordshiregas feels. Despite all the failings we saw in society in years gone by there was then, IMO, a greater tendency to say what you meant and to stick by what you said. Darrell Clarke struck a chord with Gasheads when he said he wanted a mix of young hungry players together with seasoned professionals of good character and I think the team built with the likes of Lockyer, O Clarke, Leadbitter and Harrison along with Mansell, Monkhouse and Mildenhall are a testament to this philosophy. What I believe he planned to do was to continue pursuing this policy at a higher level of quality as Rovers moved up the leagues. But unfortunately, due to financial constraints and the justified perception of Rovers as an unfashionable club lacking in facilities, he has found this difficult to accomplish. Do the recent signings really fit the category of player which Darrell said at the start he wanted to bring to the club ? We know Nichols, Smith and Sercombe all had problems at their previous clubs and were not wanted. And if we are honest with ourselves aren't Upson, Rodman, Payne and Martin the kind of journeymen we said we didn't want anymore ? It is the "double speak" which gets to me and I expect many older fans too. If we cannot follow the plan which we were given and embraced at the beginning of the journey with Darrell Clarke, and which we thought Wael was going to continue and improve on with investment and up to date infrastructure, then for goodness sake tell us ! The worst offender in my eyes is Wael because (as I've posted many times before) he relies on thinking he can pull the wool over our eyes because he knows most of us don't understand how business works. If he really meant it when he said he wants what is best for Bristol Rovers then he has to tell us how he is going to provide the training facilities, the modern stadium and the budget which Darrell Clarke needs to be able to keep his best players and to add true quality to the squad If he cannot do this he should let go, cut his losses and pass the club on to someone who can take it forward.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 1:33:56 GMT
Name the players not fit to wear the shirt then? Remember the time when players were out of form or lacking in confidence? Nobody ever says "hes off form" now. Its just get rid etc nowadays,what i dont get is its mostly older fans that are quickest to turn. As an older fan myself I understand how staffordshiregas feels. Despite all the failings we saw in society in years gone by there was then, IMO, a greater tendency to say what you meant and to stick by what you said. Darrell Clarke struck a chord with Gasheads when he said he wanted a mix of young hungry players together with seasoned professionals of good character and I think the team built with the likes of Lockyer, O Clarke, Leadbitter and Harrison along with Mansell, Monkhouse and Mildenhall are a testament to this philosophy. What I believe he planned to do was to continue pursuing this policy at a higher level of quality as Rovers moved up the leagues. But unfortunately, due to financial constraints and the justified perception of Rovers as an unfashionable club lacking in facilities, he has found this difficult to accomplish. Do the recent signings really fit the category of player which Darrell said at the start he wanted to bring to the club ? We know Nichols, Smith and Sercombe all had problems at their previous clubs and were not wanted. And if we are honest with ourselves aren't Upson, Rodman, Payne and Martin the kind of journeymen we said we didn't want anymore ? It is the "double speak" which gets to me and I expect many older fans too. If we cannot follow the plan which we were given and embraced at the beginning of the journey with Darrell Clarke, and which we thought Wael was going to continue and improve on with investment and up to date infrastructure, then for goodness sake tell us ! The worst offender in my eyes is Wael because (as I've posted many times before) he relies on thinking he can pull the wool over our eyes because he knows most of us don't understand how business works. If he really meant it when he said he wants what is best for Bristol Rovers then he has to tell us how he is going to provide the training facilities, the modern stadium and the budget which Darrell Clarke needs to be able to keep his best players and to add true quality to the squad If he cannot do this he should let go, cut his losses and pass the club on to someone who can take it forward. A good reply and well thought out. I agree that the owners basically gave us false hope of massive investment and ambition. Even if they are honest people trying to improve the club slowly they have without a doubt been a let down and havnt helped endear themselves to fans with "landing lights on" type comments. With Signings like rodman and upson we should be prepared to give them every chance to become a mansell or monkhouse. All we know is that some new signings have started badly at rovers. Its a fine line between great experienced pro and last payday journeyman.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 5:35:29 GMT
Add DC to your list as well not sure yet but from his record since February Think Wael is getting fed up from what he is replying to on Twitter,someone said to him upson is absolutely sh** and he said yes I agreeI do love dc for what he has done for us but now it seems he can’t attract decent players,our best player rumoured to be on over 6k a week is left on bench Rodman,slow and lazy Upson,just crap and you can see why mk went down with him New left back,f**king cowboy Gk,catch the thing don’t punch it Can't see this on Wael's Twitter feed - do you have a link?
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Post by rusho'gas on Sept 2, 2018 7:34:25 GMT
Probably the worst game I have ever watched in my 60 years supporting the Gas. Worst performance, worst Referee ever. Hard to believe that what I was watching were professionals. You clearly weren't at Shrewsbury last season then, Yesterday was a vast improvement on that mauling where even God ravaged the players. A point away from home with one man down, take that every day. Have I seen worse games? Yes, I was at Braintree and Alfreton before you ask.
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Post by paulpirate on Sept 2, 2018 7:38:27 GMT
not sure yet but from his record since February Think Wael is getting fed up from what he is replying to on Twitter,someone said to him upson is absolutely sh** and he said yes I agreeI do love dc for what he has done for us but now it seems he can’t attract decent players,our best player rumoured to be on over 6k a week is left on bench Rodman,slow and lazy Upson,just crap and you can see why mk went down with him New left back,f**king cowboy Gk,catch the thing don’t punch it Can't see this on Wael's Twitter feed - do you have a link? was a pm
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Post by Thatslife on Sept 2, 2018 7:39:49 GMT
Probably the worst game I have ever watched in my 60 years supporting the Gas. Worst performance, worst Referee ever. Hard to believe that what I was watching were professionals. Really? A draw away from home? The worst performance in 60 years? If that's your opinion, then so be it, but you might have missed a few other shockers down the decades which make today look like nothing much. When your chairman states that we cant put 3 passes together, the team looked like they met for the first time in the dressing room, there was no apparant tactics, no plan A or B or any plan what so ever, no effort, no commitment, if you watched the game you should know that we only drew the game thanks to a penalty that should never have been given. Yes there have been a few shockers down the years that have not had one of the elements I have mentioned but yesterday all the things were missing. The team appeared to have no clue. People have asked if DC has lost the dressing room, I really hope not because if he has, DC will walk because his pride wont let him stay. His body language yesterday tells it all.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Sept 2, 2018 8:17:02 GMT
Name the players not fit to wear the shirt then? Remember the time when players were out of form or lacking in confidence? Nobody ever says "hes off form" now. Its just get rid etc nowadays,what i dont get is its mostly older fans that are quickest to turn. As an older fan myself I understand how staffordshiregas feels. Despite all the failings we saw in society in years gone by there was then, IMO, a greater tendency to say what you meant and to stick by what you said. Darrell Clarke struck a chord with Gasheads when he said he wanted a mix of young hungry players together with seasoned professionals of good character and I think the team built with the likes of Lockyer, O Clarke, Leadbitter and Harrison along with Mansell, Monkhouse and Mildenhall are a testament to this philosophy. What I believe he planned to do was to continue pursuing this policy at a higher level of quality as Rovers moved up the leagues. But unfortunately, due to financial constraints and the justified perception of Rovers as an unfashionable club lacking in facilities, he has found this difficult to accomplish. Do the recent signings really fit the category of player which Darrell said at the start he wanted to bring to the club ? We know Nichols, Smith and Sercombe all had problems at their previous clubs and were not wanted. And if we are honest with ourselves aren't Upson, Rodman, Payne and Martin the kind of journeymen we said we didn't want anymore ? It is the "double speak" which gets to me and I expect many older fans too. If we cannot follow the plan which we were given and embraced at the beginning of the journey with Darrell Clarke, and which we thought Wael was going to continue and improve on with investment and up to date infrastructure, then for goodness sake tell us ! The worst offender in my eyes is Wael because (as I've posted many times before) he relies on thinking he can pull the wool over our eyes because he knows most of us don't understand how business works. If he really meant it when he said he wants what is best for Bristol Rovers then he has to tell us how he is going to provide the training facilities, the modern stadium and the budget which Darrell Clarke needs to be able to keep his best players and to add true quality to the squad If he cannot do this he should let go, cut his losses and pass the club on to someone who can take it forward. I don't think that's true. Shrewsbury showed last year you can bring people into an unfashionable club at a reasonable rate and have them be top-six. And young hungry players are relatively cheap by definition. Not sure which of our players you don't believe are of good character. So, 'financial constraints' seems to be the sort of thing to say when the team is not performing well. Istm we have a pretty middling budget for the league, and on paper a pretty middling squad. Obviously you have a point about the training ground and the stadium, but these things keep getting conflated with the team's performance, which istm is a red herring.
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 2, 2018 8:33:28 GMT
Name the players not fit to wear the shirt then? Remember the time when players were out of form or lacking in confidence? Nobody ever says "hes off form" now. Its just get rid etc nowadays,what i dont get is its mostly older fans that are quickest to turn. As an older fan myself I understand how staffordshiregas feels. Despite all the failings we saw in society in years gone by there was then, IMO, a greater tendency to say what you meant and to stick by what you said. Darrell Clarke struck a chord with Gasheads when he said he wanted a mix of young hungry players together with seasoned professionals of good character and I think the team built with the likes of Lockyer, O Clarke, Leadbitter and Harrison along with Mansell, Monkhouse and Mildenhall are a testament to this philosophy. What I believe he planned to do was to continue pursuing this policy at a higher level of quality as Rovers moved up the leagues. But unfortunately, due to financial constraints and the justified perception of Rovers as an unfashionable club lacking in facilities, he has found this difficult to accomplish. Do the recent signings really fit the category of player which Darrell said at the start he wanted to bring to the club ? We know Nichols, Smith and Sercombe all had problems at their previous clubs and were not wanted. And if we are honest with ourselves aren't Upson, Rodman, Payne and Martin the kind of journeymen we said we didn't want anymore ? It is the "double speak" which gets to me and I expect many older fans too. If we cannot follow the plan which we were given and embraced at the beginning of the journey with Darrell Clarke, and which we thought Wael was going to continue and improve on with investment and up to date infrastructure, then for goodness sake tell us ! The worst offender in my eyes is Wael because (as I've posted many times before) he relies on thinking he can pull the wool over our eyes because he knows most of us don't understand how business works. If he really meant it when he said he wants what is best for Bristol Rovers then he has to tell us how he is going to provide the training facilities, the modern stadium and the budget which Darrell Clarke needs to be able to keep his best players and to add true quality to the squad If he cannot do this he should let go, cut his losses and pass the club on to someone who can take it forward. It's easy to say the ALQ's should move aside for someone else to take us forward but are there really any potential owners out there who are prepared to pay at least £15m for the club, meet the annual £2m+ losses, give the manager an annual £1m+ increased budget and also somehow finance a new stadium and training ground.
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Post by albaron on Sept 2, 2018 10:11:26 GMT
Im probably going to get pelters for this -- But in my opinion we miss the type of player we had in Jermain Easter.
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Post by Thatslife on Sept 2, 2018 10:44:22 GMT
You mean a player with savvy who can read a game and score goals. No pelters from me because your right.
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