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Post by lavalamp on Sept 4, 2018 16:09:55 GMT
13 March 2004 - Lost 4-0 at Yeovil. I seem to recall this was a sh**e performance. Lee Matthews up front and Rob Quinn at the back. Graham Hyde getting sent off. Think it poured down aswell...The Glory Years Lol. I was at that game. Absolutely woeful. Phil Bater was manager for that one though. I also was at that game. I'd split up with my (ex) wife 2 weeks earlier and went out the night before and got absolutely hammered. My mate drove and I slept all the way down, watched the match which was absolutely terrible. It started raining and we were losing 4-0 I really couldnt stand anymore so took the unusual step of leaving the match 20 minutes early and then slept all the way back. Still to this day, the worst Rovers performance I've ever witnessed. |
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Post by piratesquarters on Sept 4, 2018 16:31:01 GMT
They were in fact grey days. I wonder if Ray made any money from Paul Taits house.  |
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Post by mehewmagic on Sept 4, 2018 16:35:18 GMT
Surprised nobody has mentioned Martin Dobson who apart from startibg the season playing Marcus Stewart had a dreadful run before he was sacked and conpletely l9st the dressing room He was never given a chance though. And it was championship football. He didn't lose the dressing room per se, they did their best to get rid of him. And succeeded. Bury gave him 5 years. We gave him about 5 weeks. 😤 |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 4, 2018 17:09:16 GMT
Surprised nobody has mentioned Martin Dobson who apart from startibg the season playing Marcus Stewart had a dreadful run before he was sacked and conpletely l9st the dressing room The stats in the above post prove he was our worse "permanent" manager by some distance! The Atkins period was an odd one as Osman & Broadhurst who were running the club with him in the wings were fantastic and then, as soon as Atkins departed, LL/PT got his team promoted. I still feel the spell under Buckle was one of the worse as everything turned poisonous at the club during his time. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 17:36:13 GMT
Good thread.
I'd say the stats back up the opinion that Atkins got us back on an even keel. I always felt that, despite the football being ugly, he never got the credit he deserved for that or for laying the foundations for a successful period under Trollope.
Dobson tried to change too much too quickly in my opinion, and rightlynpaid the price. A lesson that DC's eventual replacement should heed.
Buckle was just the wrong man at the wrong time. But the football under Graydon was the worst I can remember. Did well at Walsall and was a popular appointment...until he got here. Dreadful manager.
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Post by Qatar Gas on Sept 4, 2018 17:37:57 GMT
Ah, Robbie Ryan. From FA Cup final to the Gas with Atkins saying he would become a cult hero. I think that must have been a typo.  My favourite memory from that time was reading that a disgruntled fan had completely wiped Atkins out in a charity match. Good lad. Remember seeing him sat in a bookies in his Rovers tracksuit just outside the Peterborough ground after he didn’t make the squad! Think we actually won that game though?! |
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Post by Qatar Gas on Sept 4, 2018 17:39:16 GMT
13 March 2004 - Lost 4-0 at Yeovil. I seem to recall this was a sh**e performance. Lee Matthews up front and Rob Quinn at the back. Graham Hyde getting sent off. Think it poured down aswell...The Glory Years Lol. The first game I ever left early. The second (and only other game) I left early was at the same ground a season or two later when we got spanked again. Edit: actually I also left Walsall early when they thrashed us (when Penny was in charge) |
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Post by bluegas on Sept 4, 2018 18:15:59 GMT
After Holloway & Thompson, & the drop into Div. 4,I couldn't face it. As I was playing in a band at the time nearly every Saturday night I gave that my full attention. Sounds like I chose well. I came back in the fold when a dynamic, successful young manager was appointed - Buckle....
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Post by Wimborne Gas on Sept 4, 2018 18:58:30 GMT
After Holloway & Thompson, & the drop into Div. 4,I couldn't face it. As I was playing in a band at the time nearly every Saturday night I gave that my full attention. Sounds like I chose well. I came back in the fold when a dynamic, successful young manager was appointed - Buckle.... You are aware that you also missed some amazing times pre-Buckle? |
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Post by Wimborne Gas on Sept 4, 2018 19:09:55 GMT
Under Atkins, the 2-2 at home to Yeovil with 9 men was quality. The Agogo second half show.
Some say you can't create an atmosphere at the Mem but it was buzzing that night!
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Post by singupgas on Sept 4, 2018 20:21:50 GMT
As much as those days were bad, it doesn't excuse that we are now in bit of a lul. My problem is not with DC, the players need to start performing and if not DC needs to be give more abitous budget to work with. The board seem to want the guy perform miracles every season.
Players need it start playing with confidence, get the ball down and play with at pace and attacking to win. They seem to look short of ideas out there.
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Post by aghast on Sept 4, 2018 21:00:09 GMT
I never understood why Ray Graydon was so poor as our manager.
He had a glorious playing history with us, Villa and Coventry, and a great track record as a manager with Walsall, getting promotion to the Championship, then a relegation, then a promotion back again.
But it was a complete and utter disaster when he took over here.
Total mystery. He was ideal for us, I thought at the time.
Mind you, I thought the same about McGhee.
Shows what I know.
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Post by bluegas on Sept 4, 2018 21:34:33 GMT
After Holloway & Thompson, & the drop into Div. 4,I couldn't face it. As I was playing in a band at the time nearly every Saturday night I gave that my full attention. Sounds like I chose well. I came back in the fold when a dynamic, successful young manager was appointed - Buckle.... You are aware that you also missed some amazing times pre-Buckle? Hmmm....I thought of returning when it was LL/PT,but press reports didn't suggest the football was too inspiring, & current terrace friends confirm that. |
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Post by Wimborne Gas on Sept 4, 2018 21:45:27 GMT
You are aware that you also missed some amazing times pre-Buckle? Hmmm....I thought of returning when it was LL/PT,but press reports didn't suggest the football was too inspiring, & current terrace friends confirm that. Fair enough, each to their own. Although I'd argue that 2 finals, promotion and FA Cup quarter final wasn't too bad! Southampton away also sticks in the memory. |
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Post by Icegas on Sept 5, 2018 9:58:46 GMT
The Graydon era was the most depressing s***e, we were in a proper mess. Unappealing signings like Danny Boxall, Paul Tait etc. That being said, to be fair to Graydon we were never in the conference under his watch (although more by luck than judgement I think). As bad as that era was, would you rather have been back to the Graydon regime in league two on the opening day of the conference season? I know I probably would! As for Atkins, the players he signed were not bad. He just had the wrong attitude and tactics. Didnt we finish 2nd bottom under him before two sides dropped out of the league? Or was it bater? Atkins football was the worst Ive ever seen, in all fairness we were a soild mid table l2 side before he left.Didnt we draw 20 games in a season under him? He also did bring in 90% of the players in our side that won the playoff final of 2007 to be fair. Our worst side was the 2015, but in terms of entertainment value it would be a toss up between the Graydoom, twatkins , bord. And mc'wee. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2018 10:21:48 GMT
I never understood why Ray Graydon was so poor as our manager. He had a glorious playing history with us, Villa and Coventry, and a great track record as a manager with Walsall, getting promotion to the Championship, then a relegation, then a promotion back again. But it was a complete and utter disaster when he took over here. Total mystery. He was ideal for us, I thought at the time. Mind you, I thought the same about McGhee. Shows what I know. That (Peter?) Nicholls guy who was his assistant at Walsall must have been the brains of the outfit, there really is no other way to explain how he could get two promotions elsewhere and then assemble a side fit for relegation that played awful football here. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2018 10:30:57 GMT
I never understood why Ray Graydon was so poor as our manager. He had a glorious playing history with us, Villa and Coventry, and a great track record as a manager with Walsall, getting promotion to the Championship, then a relegation, then a promotion back again. But it was a complete and utter disaster when he took over here. Total mystery. He was ideal for us, I thought at the time. Mind you, I thought the same about McGhee. Shows what I know. That (Peter?) Nicholls guy who was his assistant at Walsall must have been the brains of the outfit, there really is no other way to explain how he could get two promotions elsewhere and then assemble a side fit for relegation that played awful football here. It couldn't have been easy for him to manage Rovers during the day, and then having to appear on stage in "The Flintstones Live Show" every night. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2018 11:10:42 GMT
Things seem calmer this week but I wonder what the reaction will be if we lose on Saturday?
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Post by lastminutewinner on Sept 5, 2018 11:22:49 GMT
Bit sad that we are trying to separate the "chaff from the chaff". I'd prefer to focus on the here and now.
History is there to use as experience and learn from. I don't think claiming this team is better or worse than the Graydon/McGhee/Ward/Dobson/Rofe/Buckle days is particularly beneficial.
All I know is the current form (this season, I don't count the end of last season) must rank as one of our worst starts, but it is just a start and we have players returning to hopefully improve things.
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Post by thomas on Sept 5, 2018 11:26:21 GMT
When I first started watching Rovers I think the Manager was Bill Dodgin. He was alright 1 of 3 great managers who were ex Charlton players, the other 2 were Bert Tann and Fred Ford. |
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