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Post by pirate on Dec 4, 2018 17:34:45 GMT
"We’ll move in March [2017]” to new training ground says @official_BRFC chairman. bristolroverssc.co.uk/2016/09/08/having-a-gas-6/Seriously though, the last I heard was the Al-Qadi interview back in August. The training ground – what’s happening? Darrell told me the other week that it’s very weedy, I’ve seen pictures of it and it’s nowhere near ready. Again, I’m very frustrated about this, about the training ground. It will happen and if it doesn’t happen in time for next season, or next April, when our current venue’s rent ends, we will provide a temporary solution for the team to have a very good training facility. As a temporary solution until our training ground is up and running. You appointed Evan Jones Chartered Surveyors to deliver this, what are they doing? As project managers. It’s a process and it’s complicated from different angles. I can assure you it will happen and, like I said, because the training pitches have to be started very soon otherwise you’ll miss the window over the winter, unless we start very soon we’re going to miss that and if that happens, we will provide a temporary solution for a training ground. Where will that be? Again, I can’t go into that because of talks. It’s close by but again, its not a done deal. That’s what we’re looking at. To quote Darrell, he said some people need to get their fingers out over the training ground. It’s frustrating him. It’s frustrating me too. Like I said, we have to move on this very quickly. www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/full-wael-al-qadi-transcript-1889017They said last week that they have an extension for another year where they are. I know. Hamer On the 20man Having a Gas show. The pitch where the players apparently have to pick up fox sh** before they train. Nothing about the extension on official Rovers channels as far as I can see though.
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Post by aghast on Dec 4, 2018 18:53:41 GMT
I was unaware of any changes relating to the Green Belt, though with this Government running things anything is likely to happen. Thousands of houses being built around Thornbury and Charfield, all on green fields and the threat of 1800 in Coalpit Heath actually on Green Belt land. As long as this shower at Westminster is working hand in glove with South Gloucestershire Council, things will only get worse. What you won't see is development taking place on the leafy lanes and fields of Kent 'cause the government will lose too many parliamentary seats. You do see it in Kent, and Surrey and Sussex. They're all rapidly being concreted over.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2018 19:09:50 GMT
I was unaware of any changes relating to the Green Belt, though with this Government running things anything is likely to happen. Thousands of houses being built around Thornbury and Charfield, all on green fields and the threat of 1800 in Coalpit Heath actually on Green Belt land. As long as this shower at Westminster is working hand in glove with South Gloucestershire Council, things will only get worse. What you won't see is development taking place on the leafy lanes and fields of Kent 'cause the government will lose too many parliamentary seats. Ah a poster called Meldrew, just what this already glum forum needs. 4291!
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Post by poorblue on Dec 7, 2018 11:48:40 GMT
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Post by blueridge on Dec 7, 2018 12:07:54 GMT
Hortham is shown in the big South Gloucestershire County Council Local Plan 2018-2036. Interesting read - a lot of Green Belt looking to be released for building.
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Post by gashead1981 on Dec 7, 2018 12:28:59 GMT
My take on it is that perhaps the ALQs did have the intention of doing all they said they were going to but due to the share price drop in AJIB and a completely negligent underestimation of what the clubs losses were and now are thanks to them giving us a real top heavy management structure, that they no longer wish to invest anything. So the land for the training ground will either be developed for housing or sold to a developer with permissions and its that return which will mean the losses on the club will be paid for. Its the only tangible exit strategy the ALQs now have.
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Post by blueridge on Dec 7, 2018 12:34:49 GMT
My take on it is that perhaps the ALQs did have the intention of doing all they said they were going to but due to the share price drop in AJIB and a completely negligent underestimation of what the clubs losses were and now are thanks to them giving us a real top heavy management structure, that they no longer wish to invest anything. So the land for the training ground will either be developed for housing or sold to a developer with permissions and its that return which will mean the losses on the club will be paid for. Its the only tangible exit strategy the ALQs now have. That's my take on it - the ALQ's small planning application to convert some buildings on the site earlier, was thrown out - I feel there is a bigger picture emerging but only an opinion!!
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 7, 2018 12:51:02 GMT
My take on it is that perhaps the ALQs did have the intention of doing all they said they were going to but due to the share price drop in AJIB and a completely negligent underestimation of what the clubs losses were and now are thanks to them giving us a real top heavy management structure, that they no longer wish to invest anything. So the land for the training ground will either be developed for housing or sold to a developer with permissions and its that return which will mean the losses on the club will be paid for. Its the only tangible exit strategy the ALQs now have. That's my take on it - the ALQ's small planning application to convert some buildings on the site earlier, was thrown out - I feel there is a bigger picture emerging but only an opinion!! or your both clutching at straws and the ALQ's simply want to keep pp live so they can try and recover some of the money they've wasted buying the land in the first place? if they wanted to develop the whole site for housing why not put in pp now? Regardless the land is the green "neck less" around the M4/M5 so getting pp would be remote anyway. Plus the land is owned by DS not the club anyway.
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Post by gashead1981 on Dec 7, 2018 13:00:29 GMT
That's my take on it - the ALQ's small planning application to convert some buildings on the site earlier, was thrown out - I feel there is a bigger picture emerging but only an opinion!! or your both clutching at straws and the ALQ's simply want to keep pp live so they can try and recover some of the money they've wasted buying the land in the first place? if they wanted to develop the whole site for housing why not put in pp now? Regardless the land is the green "neck less" around the M4/M5 so getting pp would be remote anyway. Plus the land is owned by DS not the club anyway. Not clutching at anything, just trying to understand the reasonings behind buying the land and doing nothing with it. DS own BRFC as well.
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Post by daniel300380 on Dec 7, 2018 13:10:43 GMT
My take on it is that perhaps the ALQs did have the intention of doing all they said they were going to but due to the share price drop in AJIB and a completely negligent underestimation of what the clubs losses were and now are thanks to them giving us a real top heavy management structure, that they no longer wish to invest anything. So the land for the training ground will either be developed for housing or sold to a developer with permissions and its that return which will mean the losses on the club will be paid for. Its the only tangible exit strategy the ALQs now have. I thought it made sense all along to build housing, to fund the training ground build. More than enough for both, a lot have implied that was the plan all the time.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Dec 7, 2018 13:11:20 GMT
or your both clutching at straws and the ALQ's simply want to keep pp live so they can try and recover some of the money they've wasted buying the land in the first place? if they wanted to develop the whole site for housing why not put in pp now? Regardless the land is the green "neck less" around the M4/M5 so getting pp would be remote anyway. Plus the land is owned by DS not the club anyway. Not clutching at anything, just trying to understand the reasonings behind buying the land and doing nothing with it. DS own BRFC as well. my take on is you are not far from the real truth
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Post by Henbury Gas on Dec 7, 2018 13:12:13 GMT
My take on it is that perhaps the ALQs did have the intention of doing all they said they were going to but due to the share price drop in AJIB and a completely negligent underestimation of what the clubs losses were and now are thanks to them giving us a real top heavy management structure, that they no longer wish to invest anything. So the land for the training ground will either be developed for housing or sold to a developer with permissions and its that return which will mean the losses on the club will be paid for. Its the only tangible exit strategy the ALQs now have. I thought it made sense all along to build housing, to fund the training ground build. More than enough for both, a lot have implied that was the plan all the time. The split is 9/20 when it comes to houses/training ground...
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 7, 2018 13:46:16 GMT
My take on it is that perhaps the ALQs did have the intention of doing all they said they were going to but due to the share price drop in AJIB and a completely negligent underestimation of what the clubs losses were and now are thanks to them giving us a real top heavy management structure, that they no longer wish to invest anything. So the land for the training ground will either be developed for housing or sold to a developer with permissions and its that return which will mean the losses on the club will be paid for. Its the only tangible exit strategy the ALQs now have. I thought it made sense all along to build housing, to fund the training ground build. More than enough for both, a lot have implied that was the plan all the time. Maybe implied but unless somebody knows how the planners are thinking we haven't a clue if they'd ever get pp or how long it would take if there were objections, although if we believe what's being suggested on here the club's now up for sale anyway.
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Post by daniel300380 on Dec 7, 2018 14:19:02 GMT
I thought it made sense all along to build housing, to fund the training ground build. More than enough for both, a lot have implied that was the plan all the time. Maybe implied but unless somebody knows how the planners are thinking we haven't a clue if they'd ever get pp or how long it would take if there were objections, although if we believe what's being suggested on here the club's now up for sale anyway. I think it could explain why nothing has happened yet, as they were waiting for a way to fund it. Think this could be a way, if they can get planning permission of course. Or like you said, they could be selling the club instead now. Unless someone has money to burn, they will have to find ways to fund the training ground and any potential stadium as well though.
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Post by mehewmagic on Dec 7, 2018 14:26:33 GMT
It would hardly be a surprise if they were trying to get PP for houses at some point in the future.
In recent memory Hortham Lane has had houses built on the old hospital, a large Jehovah's Witness assembly hall, and also a Plymouth Brethren meeting hall.
I often joke that if they'll let JW's and Brethren build there, they'll let anyone 😂😀
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Post by glengas on Dec 7, 2018 14:46:03 GMT
Maybe implied but unless somebody knows how the planners are thinking we haven't a clue if they'd ever get pp or how long it would take if there were objections, although if we believe what's being suggested on here the club's now up for sale anyway. I think it could explain why nothing has happened yet, as they were waiting for a way to fund it. Think this could be a way, if they can get planning permission of course. Or like you said, they could be selling the club instead now. Unless someone has money to burn, they will have to find ways to fund the training ground and any potential stadium as well though. When they bought the club they told us funding was not an issue when it came to building the UWE. So why can we not afford a training ground?
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Post by Henbury Gas on Dec 7, 2018 14:53:26 GMT
It would hardly be a surprise if they were trying to get PP for houses at some point in the future. In recent memory Hortham Lane has had houses built on the old hospital, a large Jehovah's Witness assembly hall, and also a Plymouth Brethren meeting hall. I often joke that if they'll let JW's and Brethren build there, they'll let anyone 😂😀 Part of the "Colony" site used to be an old sewer works which has long gone, so maybe it could be classed as a "Brown Field" site now... Pun intended
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Post by daniel300380 on Dec 7, 2018 15:23:12 GMT
I think it could explain why nothing has happened yet, as they were waiting for a way to fund it. Think this could be a way, if they can get planning permission of course. Or like you said, they could be selling the club instead now. Unless someone has money to burn, they will have to find ways to fund the training ground and any potential stadium as well though. When they bought the club they told us funding was not an issue when it came to building the UWE. So why can we not afford a training ground? Because people are more likely to fund a stadium, as it will bring money in. A lot harder to find people to invest in a trading ground. As it won't bring in any revenue. They never said they would fund a stadium, just that funding would be in place.
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Post by singupgas on Dec 7, 2018 15:35:19 GMT
When they bought the club they told us funding was not an issue when it came to building the UWE. So why can we not afford a training ground? Because people are more likely to fund a stadium, as it will bring money in. A lot harder to find people to invest in a trading ground. As it won't bring in any revenue. They never said they would fund a stadium, just that funding would be in place. Isn't that what ambitious FOOTBALL club owners do though, build a FOOTBALL training ground, so there FOOTBALL team can bloody play some decent FOOTBALL on a Saturday. What are they doing here if they dont want to invest some money.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2018 15:43:00 GMT
When they bought the club they told us funding was not an issue when it came to building the UWE. So why can we not afford a training ground? Because people are more likely to fund a stadium, as it will bring money in. A lot harder to find people to invest in a trading ground. As it won't bring in any revenue. They never said they would fund a stadium, just that funding would be in place. I used to think like that, that a training ground doesn't bring any money in, until I read about Fleetwood. One of the pitches on their training ground is 3G, and it is hired out everyday for others in the community to use. It is not only the income from renting the pitches out, but the revenue raised by having a lot of people using their restaurant/bar/shop. People go there, use the facilities, and spend money. Apparently it brings in 500k a year for them.
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